User talk:Ragesoss/Archive8

Congratulations
Ragesoss,

I've been busy lately, but want to congratulate and thank you for your note about Wikipedia in the HSS Newsletter. Hope it attracts some interested people to the project.

All the best, --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sanger interview?
Honestly, I've been busy and hadn't e-mailed him yet. I'll try to e-mail him in the next day or so. On another note, I just checked the Signpost's e-mail tipline, where we received a marginally-related e-mail that I'm forwarding to you. Check your inbox in a few minutes. Ral315 (talk) 04:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Vote for a post-meetup restaurant
I'm charged with making the reservations for us, so let's make it official. We'll do this via voting and everyone including anonymous voters, sockpuppets, and canvassed supporters is enfranchised. Voting irregularities and election fraud are encouraged as that would be really amusing in this instance. Please vote for whichever restaurant you would like to eat at given the information provided above and your own personal prejudices at Meetup/NYC. The prevailing restaurant will be called first for the reservation. If a reservation cannot be obtained at the winning restaurant, the runner-up restaurant will be called thus making this entire process pointless. Voting ends 24 hours after this timestamp (because I said so). ScienceApologist (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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History of Aspirin
Hi,

I was intrigued by your listing of a new project to write up the History of Aspirin. It's always struck me as a topic that touches on the nature of scientific knowledge.


 * Since antiquity (and in many "primitive" cultures) people have known that decoctions of willow bark were effective in reducing fevers and inflammation.
 * At various times (if I recall correctly, it's in the 17th c.) people argued that fevers arise in swamps, willows grow in swamps, and it is only natural that the cure of the disease would be found at the place where the disease arose.
 * In the nineteenth century organic chemists isolated the particular chemical substance in willow bark that was effective in reducing fevers and inflammation.
 * Later in the nineteenth century, chemists synthesized this substance and produced aspirin.
 * Late in the twentieth century physicians arrived at a physiological understanding of how aspirin produced its beneficial effects.

The question that strikes me as interesting is "when in this process can we say that people had scientific knowledge about aspirin (or willow bark) and their effect on fever and inflammation?" A case could be made for any of these stages, depending on how you choose to define science. I hope your article will address these in some way. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 22:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your message
Thank you for your kind message of welcome. I have become interested in zoological history and in Amazonian exploration, probably because I have become an old (60) zoologist working in the Amazon (Belém). Please have a look at the timeline I tried to graft into the History of Zoology (pre-Darwin) page. Wloveral (talk) 21:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Please feel free to move the before Darwin zoology timeline
Please feel free to move the before Darwin zoology timeline to a separate article. I have been working on the after 1859 portion, too. It is almost three times the size of the earlier portion. If you would formate some of the first entries, I could apply these same formats to the other entries in the timelines. Wloveral (talk) 22:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Carl Zimmer, October 16, 2007.jpg
Do you think this image would be a little better if the guy on the left was cropped out of the picture? No disrespect to him, of course, just think it might look a little tidier :) Richard001 (talk) 05:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't normally edit images though... I could do it in a few seconds in paint but if I saved it the picture quality would be lower wouldn't it? Richard001 (talk) 05:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not on a home computer either (I never am, actually), so I can only go with what I've got here: Paint and GIMP. Is it possible to do a crop in either of those without quality loss? Richard001 (talk) 06:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Invitation


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At WP Timeline Tracer, we thank you for using these tools and for helping to make Wikipedia articles more accurate and reliable.  Dao  ken  11:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Vatican & Wikipedia article
Thank you for the offer to include me on the byline of your article. It's a well written article and I would be quite pleased for you to include me on the byline.

There are couple things in the article that definitely need to be changed. Ratzinger's book gives February 15th, not March 15th, as the date of his talk at La Sapienza. I would be willing to simply give that as the "correct" date, but if you think it necessary to hedge your bets, you could mention that the English version of the Catholic News Agency Article appears to be suggesting the later date.

Also, the supposed discrepancy which L'Osservatore identifies in the Wikipedia article is with the location of the speech (Parma instead of Rome) rather than the date, which it appears to consider correct.

I have a couple of other suggestions which you can accept or not as you see fit. I'll modify your current version of the article to include my suggested amendments and post it below yours on the same page. Regards. &mdash;David Wilson (talk · cont) 12:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

E.O Wilson image
Hello,

I am an editor with The Triple Helix. We are currently producing the second edition of the journal and are seeking permission to use the image of E.O Wilson' which you have uploaded

The Picture would be used alongside an article reviewing (favourably) E.O Wilson's book 'The Creation'

Please let me know as soon as possible

Regards, John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 300111h (talk • contribs) 02:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

coordinator election
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coordinator election
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Your eclipse photo
I put it on the Main Page/In the news. Nice shot. --Stephen 05:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I came here to thank you for your great photo too! Royal broil  19:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

New mailing list
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Clash of Historiographic Sensibilities
Hey Sage.... Is there any chance you'll use your authority as an Admin to weigh in on the discussion we're having about the ongoing edits wars at History of psychology and Islamic psychology? I posted a note at WP:NORN, which summarizes some of the debate your HSS opinion piece started at the AHP blog (and which has since continued at various wiki talk pages), but no admins have yet to get involved. I thought you might be interested in sharing your perspective. (It could save us all a lot of pain and suffering!)

Over at talk:Islamic psychology, the "negotiation" may well have stalled where it's at: there seems to be a fundamental disagreement/misunderstanding regarding "what counts" as a good scholarly history. (For example: if an unsophisticated editor cites a questionable source for translating al-‘ilaj al-nafs as "psychotherapy," rather than something like "The Curing/Treatment of the Ideas/Soul/Vegetative Mind," then I believe a presentist error is being transmitted to Wikipedia without check or balance.) But I doubt we're ever going to move beyond the current sticking-point without someone from higher up in the wiki-foodchain having a say as to whether the unquestioning repetition of errors counts as WP:SYN, bad scholarship coupled with bad faith reversions, or an honest and unavoidable continuing problem relating to the historical naiveté of non-historian editors. (Personally, when considered from the perspective of WikiProject Psychology, I think the entire Islamic psychology article should be dropped down to Start-Class... but I don't want to be antagonistic.)

There is a similar problem ongoing at History of evolutionary thought‎, but that is just one of many pages affected in this way.

I think it would help move everything forward if there were another recognized historian doing some of the talking. And, from my own perspective more generally, I'd be interested to hear what you think. (Indeed, would you care to reply to some of the ongoing commentary at AHP?) Cheers, JTBurman (talk) 07:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

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Ideas
I borrowed some of your ideas from Ral's userpage and posted them at User:Daniel/Intros. Hope you don't mind? &mdash;Dark (talk) 06:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Bristlecone Pine/Utah Juniper Nom ;-)
Hey, Just wanted to drop you a line that I corrected the image title, and the articles that it appears in as per Comments during the nomination. If I read your comment correctly, that was your main issue with the image. If it is now satisfactory, I'd love to you to take another look. Cheers -Fcb981 (talk:contribs) 06:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

from Jack L King's daughter
hi, i am new to wiki and want to slightly change something in the info you wrote about my father.

(Thank you by the way- it made my day to find it!)

he did have 8 children. 6 of them were from a previous marriage that ended in divorce and then my twin brother and I are from his marriage with Ethel King. if there is a way this can be edited so it doesn't appear as if Ethel King was the mother of all 8 children, I would appreciate it! Ethel King (my mother) is still living.

I would do this myself but unsure how to edit in such a way that it is verifiable.

Thank you much,

Kindest,

Sparrow King (my name was my dad's idea- my twin brother's name is Adam- my father's sense of humor and tribute to another non darwinian evolutionary theory) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1216 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks!
No, I don't know of any published biography —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1216 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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History of Science Collaboration of the Month
Hey there, Trying to get the collaboration of the month back up and going. Several articles had finally accumulated enough votes, so I've decreed that Greek mathematics is the current collaboration of the month. As a former regular contributor, I hope you can drop by and help. &mdash; Laura Scudder &#9742; 23:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for the barnstar. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 22:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Takes Manhattan postponed to Friday April 4th
All other details remain the same. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 18:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)