User talk:Raime/Archive 8

WikiProject Skyscrapers and building lists
I have a question regarding skyscraper templates for individual cities (more specifically Template:Dubai skyscrapers). When do skyscrapers listed on Template:Future Dubai skyscrapers move to their completed counterpart? Once thay become topped-out, or when they are complete? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you. I will go ahead and do that right now.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

LOTD exposure
We are running into problems getting the lists on WP:FC. I don't think we should repropose this idea for the main page until we are getting at least 20-25 active participants/month. I don't know if you have any thoughts that would be relevant on the issue. There is a debate at Portal_talk:Featured_content.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

More images
Have you ever thought of using triple image so that you can get more images in your lists? I just beefed up Prairie Avenue with triple and double image templates and it is pretty useful.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think if you did something the following might help you show pictures of almost all the buildings:--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 05:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

T:DYK.
Congratulations! · AndonicO Talk 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

And here's one more for your collection!--JayHenry (talk) 03:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles January Newsletter
Happy New Year! Here is the latest edition of the WikiProject GA Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Notice
Raime, I am sorry. But I am going to be selfish and rude in this message. On 22 December I left you a message, here on your talk page. You have not responded yet. I do not know if you never noticed it, forgot about it, or just did not want to respond. It has been two weeks, and I am interested to know what your response is. All I would like is a reply; even a two word answer would be satisfactory. Sorry for being so rude. Thank you for your time and for understanding. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for creating the Dubai proposal. I am just interested to know how long it usually takes for 5 to 10 people to add their names.  Should I leave a message on some users' talk pages that I feel might be interested in a WikiProject Dubai?  And sorry again for my rude message.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 18:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I think we should go ahead with the Dubai proposal, despite the creation of the UAE work group. Even though there is a WikiProject England, there is still a WikiProject London.  I see no problem with the co-existence of a WikiProject Dubai and a UAE work group.  And what does "IMHO" stand for?  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * So far I have created four building articles (three for New York and one for Chicago). Before I continue, I would like you to have a look at them.  I am interested to know if they meet the specifications that WikiProject Skyscrapers wants, and to know if I should continue with the same format.  The first three articles are Bertelsmann Building, Continental Center I and Times Square Tower.  I also created General Motors Building (New York), but that has since been expanded greatly by another user.  Thank you.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 00:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for those pointers. I will try to remember them.  And yes, I do think it is a good idea to create a user sub-page for the WikiProject Dubai.  Just let me know if there is anyting I can do to help.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in New Orleans
I took a lot of pictures from the Hilton New Orleans skydeck that may help many of the articles in the List of tallest buildings in New Orleans. I will try to get them posted this week. I will not recognize all the buildings though.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not sure how to label some of the pictures I want to post because I don't know the names of the buildings. Can I email them to you so you can help me?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My first picture is up at Image:2008-01-05 Sheraton New Orleans.JPG. I will post others as I can recognize the buildings and have time.  A few more should be added today.  I apologize, but your list finished 7th with me personally at WP:LOTD.  I was wondering about city tallest building lists.  It seems almost every article has at least one picture.  Has there been any discussion about including a picture in the table for each building.  Have you considered the triple image suggestion for the right side if not because that would also accomodate a picture for almost every building.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 15:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I posted with VerruckteDan. You may want to see them (the last one is a crop for a redlink):

WP:LOTD
In the last month, you have created a new WP:FL. You are a veteran and have produced others in the past. Congratulations! I also see you have nominated an LOTDC this month. This is your official reminder that your votes are needed. Please participate in the voting.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Only three days left.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for participating in the WP:LOTD. Your nominee List of tallest buildings in San Francisco has been selected to be a February WP:LOTD.  If you have any particular date preferences please contact me by January 24th.  Note that since it finished in the top six will appear twice as a WP:LOTD during the month.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 16:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey again
As you might have noticed, I got a bit tired of creating new building lists, especially after six long lists in China. So I decided to do something else, Hydro-Québec's electricity transmission system, with hopes of bringing that article to FA-status. However, I think the article needs several more pictures of the power transmission lines and I decided to ask you since you live in the Northeast United States close to Quebec. Here are the specific transmission lines: New York Power Authority's AC (alternating current) 765 kV line in northern New York State near Marcy, the +/- 450 kV Quebec - New England HVDC (high-voltage direct current) Transmission line near Ayer, Massachusetts (north of Boston) and/or near Monroe, New Hampshire, and Hydro-Québec TransÉnergie's AC 735 kV power lines around Montreal, Quebec City, and the South Shore region of Québec. Do you think you can take pictures of these lines? Cheers. Trance addict 08:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, and it would also be nice if you or you know somebody that has pictures of damaged power lines (in Québec and/or New England} from the 1998 Ice Storm which occurred 10 years ago. Cheers. Trance addict  10:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia sure could use a project like this, I took a look at many of the Dubai articles and they were appalling. A significant number of articles has one (or more) of the following problem(s): POV, unencyclopedic content, un-wikified material, unreferenced, unchecked vandalism, orphan, out of date, and spam / advertising. Just so you know.
 * WikiProject Dubai

I think we should stop creating new building lists in the US. Although I IDed more cities for list creation in the past, I have now decided many of those cities in the box don't deserve building lists, as they don't contain a lot of notable buildings and / or tall highrises as well. If we continue to create new building lists, I say pick a city somewhere else besides the US, like Panama City. The US is getting quite dry in terms of new building list(s) possibilities.
 * Building lists

And can you please answer the first question above? Or is electrical infrastructure not one of your interests? Thanks. Cheers. Trance addict 07:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply....
 * I think this image is better than the night time one. As for the new lists, let's hold off on them until we become 'un-bored' of creating lists. If we should work on the lists, let's focus on the existing ones. I think both the London and Paris lists need reformatting. The way they are right now looks pretty reader-unfriendly and both lists need more unreferences. Oh, and some advice for taking that photo of the +/- 450 kV Hydro-Quebec HVDC line near Ayer, I suspect the Sandy Pond terminal (substation) is a sensitive area, that is, it is an area where public photography is prohibited. This is because the HVDC terminal is blurred out on Google Earth images. And if you don't know what a +/- 450 kV HVDC line looks like, here (the line that carries only two conductors, not three, as with the AC 230 kV power lines).

I think to get to Ayer (directly from Providence), take I-95 north to I-495 and take go west-northwest on I-495 (Exit 6B on Microsoft Virtual Earth or clockwise, as I-495 forms an arc facing east). Go on I-495 until you reach Littleton Common (near Ayer). Then take the exit (Exit 31 on Microsoft Virtual Earth) there and get onto State Route 119. On State Route 119, head northwest (turn right, not left, don't go into Littleton Common). Heading northwest, past the Sandy Point Road and Forge Village Road junction, you will encounter the HVDC line at the junction of Gay Road and Prescott Street. Get off State Route 119 there (turn right) and go onto Gay Road. Cheers. Trance addict 23:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Directions.....

I agree as well; I think there are too many stub-articles about individual buildings / projects in Dubai, which made tagging a bit more prolonged. For the time being, I think we should consolidate all the information contained in those stubs into the building complex article. This here is example article about a complex in Hong Kong containing five buildings. I think, for Dubai, the building complex article should not have sections labelled "XYZ Tower I, XYZ Tower II, etc. Instead, the article should describe the complex in general, not the individual buildings. The individual building articles should be changed into a redirect of the building complex article, not deleted. The same goes for the talk page, but just delete the tag. Right now, there are both building complex and individual building articles; this may explain why there is a delete-no delete war because of notability reasons. Cheers. Trance addict  05:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Dubai building article 'spam'


 * It would we wise to condense the articles into their respective complexes. But, like Hydrogen Iodide said, the article for the developments should only describe the development.  You mentioned Jumeirah Lake Towers (JLT).  All buildings in the complex are grouped into clusters of three.  We could create one article for each cluster instead of a different article for each tower.  That would decrease the number of articles for towers in JLT by about a third (if we have an article for each tower, but I do not think that is the case).  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 06:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we should add coordinates to Dubai and skyscraper articles so that a link to that article appears on Google Earth? It could increase the number of people who view the article. Cheers. Trance addict 04:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Coordinates


 * I used Google Earth to locate some buildings in Dubai, Hong Kong, Oakland and SF. However, this task may be very hard / impossible to do if the article does not have a picture and / or states the location (or Emporis for the buildings). It may be best to consult a local Wikipedian in whatever region that you are trying to add coordinates to. Take a look at this discussion for more info. Cheers. Trance addict  05:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:Welcome!
Thank you for welcoming me into the family! Please do drop me a line anytime if you need any particular assistance from the other side of the planet. ;)--Huaiwei (talk) 02:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Dubai Tasks
Raime, what else needs to be done to set up the WikiProject Dubai? Since I have never helped to create a WikiProject like you have, I hope you can give me a few pointers. How long does this whole process take? What needs to be created? How do we decide on the importance scale, etc.? Thank you. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay thank you. I will try to create some of the things you listed when I can find time (this will most likely be Friday). But I may or may not be able to make one or two things tonight.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 03:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * So far, I have created Template:User WikiProject Dubai, Category:WikiProject Dubai members, Template:Dubai category, Template:Dubai image, Template:Dubai project and Template:Dubai template. Let me know if there is something that I need to fix.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 04:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "anything else on the project page?" I do not know much about WikiProjects.  You co-founded WikiProject Architecture and WikiProject Skyscrapers, so you have more experience with these types of things than I do.  What types of things usually come up during or shortly after the creation of a project that we may be able to address now?
 * And should I add WikiProject Dubai Welcome to WP:DUBAI participants' talk pages to inform them that the Project is now on the mainspace? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 06:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * When looking at the Project page, everything looks good. I agree with the creation of an Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive.  When you proposed the creation of WP:DUBAI I was very happy.  I knew that the project would greatly improve many of the articles, and an ACID is just what is needed.  I also think that a template page would be a good way to access the templates when we need them, instead of fishing throughout Category:WikiProject Dubai for them.  Should I also create a stub template for WP:DUBAI, such as Engineering-stub, or is just WikiProject Dubai okay?  And what about an "articles by quality" template such as Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Skyscraper articles by quality statistics?
 * And sorry, my mistake. I must have switched WikiProject Architecture for WikiProject Engineering.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Your organization for stubs sounds good to me. For the ACID, should we work on an article that is (I feel) of top importance but is only a stub?  But before that, how will we choose the importance of articles?  I have been thinking about that, and I seem to think that a lot of them are important.  Isn't importance an opinion?  So how will we organize that?  And I may not be the person to choose importance because I might be a little biased.  How is importance chosen at other WikiProjects?  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * How would we classify Dubai Creek, Bur Dubai, Deira, Dubai, and Al Shindagha on the importance scale. Dubai would not exist were it not for Dubai Creek.  And at one time, Bur Dubai, Deira, and Al Shindagha were the only areas of Dubai.  This is where the city began, hence extremely important for the city.  They are also the articles I think deserve a lot of attention.  How do they sound for the ACID?  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Doing two articles at a time for the ACID seems good to me. And I agree with the split of the malls from the landmarks template.  I will do that right now.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)