User talk:Ralph0411

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An extended welcome
Hi Ralph0411. Welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Wikipedia's Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Wikipedia and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Ronz (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Ja'Net DuBois
Hi Ralph0411. I've reverted all your edits to Ja'Net DuBois due to the requirements of WP:BLP, which I mentioned above. High-quality sources are required for such information. Primary sources, like a marriage license, do not suffice alone (do in part to possible errors or misidentification).

Also, please work in smaller edits than this. Especially for BLP info, it's best not to change more than a few sources at a time, especially if you're uncertain about their reliability.

There does look like there's a lot of information that can be salvaged, but I don't have time at the moment to sort through it all. NNDB and Songfacts are not reliable. Nycmarriageindex and FamilySearch are primary sources that should not be used without being paired with higher quality sources. --Ronz (talk) 03:17, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Please respond
Hello, I'm Ronz. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Ja'Net DuBois, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! --Ronz (talk) 15:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --Ronz (talk) 02:26, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Ok, but some of my information was salvageable. The source regarding her son was found by myself on Family Search, I couldn't locate a view-able source so I understood that had to be removed but everything else was founded. Including her 1950 marriage to Sajit Gupta on the NYC Marriage index website (In which I provided a source for) which would exclude her 1945 birth year. --Ralph0411 (talk) 12:57, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ralph, you do realize those are primary sources? John from Idegon (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * So we can't use those? They're forbidden? That goes against the other editors "policies". I'm just trying to learn how it works. I want to be a good editor who knows the Do's and Don'ts . --Ralph0411 (talk) 13:36, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:TPG to learn how to properly indent in talk conversations. See WP:BLPSOURCE, which will give you advice on how to vet sources for use in biographies. John from Idegon (talk) 19:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ralph0411. I started a discussion on the article talk page: Talk:Ja'Net_DuBois, where there's now a response after I asked for help from interested editors. Please join the discussion, where we can discuss sources and propose changes. --Ronz (talk) 21:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

August 2020
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Pepa (rapper). Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 01:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

As I've pointed out, working on biographical articles requires strict adherence to Wikipedia's content policies. If you aren't going to take the time to learn those policies, you'll likely find yourself frustrated as when problematic edits are removed.

Biographies require high quality sources. A Google search isn't remotely appropriate as a source. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 18:59, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory or otherwise controversial content into an article or any other Wikipedia page. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 22:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy notice - SPI
Your editing is being discussed at Sockpuppet investigations/MakaveliReed. Please consider joining the discussion. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 00:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)