User talk:Ramonfrunkis

November 2016
Hello, I'm Mtpaley. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Opie Radio— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mtpaley (talk) 22:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Block
I'm blocking you indefinitely due to your repeated additions of negative material about the physical traits of the wife and son of Dave Landau. These additions are not supported by the sources you have provided, and even if they were, they are not permissible under our policies because the affected family members are not public figures. Reviewing your edit history, I note you have previously added material that meets our definition of vandalism and other negative material about family members of article subjects. Accordingly, I have made the block of indefinite duration. If you wish to make further contributions to Wikipedia, you may follow the steps in Guide to appealing blocks.

 Uninvited Company 22:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey, how do I contact you so we can have a conversation like men instead of an activist who does the bidding at the behest of the person whose page is being updated? Since you blocked me from your user talk page?

Wiki has more TOS than a financial contract. I read about people's wives, SO's, children, and parents all the time on here. Nowhere have I see it say that 'factual statements about family members' are 'off limit'.

Dave has mentioned "Land Cow" on MULTIPLE episode of The Anthony Cumia show but unfortunately, they are all paywalled and under copyright. I could have sworn that he mentions "Land Cow" in The Classic Metal episode but it's been several months since I've listened so this might have been an honest mistake.

I'm also unsure how factually stating that Joseph Cumia once dated his brother's ex wife is 'negative material' if it is true? Anthony has mentioned this multiple times over the year and how he wished 'he had learned from Joe and followed suit' by leaving her be. The acrimonious divorces also provides years' worth of content for the show, which you are free to listen to corroborate. But they were a daily show for a decade so it might take you a while!


 * Thank you for your note. I am following your talk page and will see messages you post here.


 * You may find that this section of our overall policy on biographies of living individuals answers your questions about what can be included for family members.


 * I do not doubt that Dave has made mention of the facts you enumerate; perhaps his wife is indeed not HWP, but that's beside the point. The problem here is not that the assertion you made is contrafactual.  It is instead that it is derogatory and that the person it describes is not a public figure.


 * The fact that the article subjects at hand are participants in a reality-based form of entertainment does complicate writing about them in encyclopedic style. It is our policy to refrain from using primary sources as references.  Interviews and monologues would be examples of primary sources.  As such, assertions here cannot be sourced to interviews or monologues.  A fact to consider is that comedy skits, even when putatively factual and reality based, have entertainment as their primary purpose and may therefore take liberties with the truth.


 * I hope this helps you understand how Wikipedia approaches biographical articles. I can see that you are making a good-faith effort to contribute.  Biographical articles require particular care regarding sources and editorial practices.  If you wish to contribute here, you will have to work within those policies.


 * Regards,  Uninvited Company 03:47, 6 December 2018 (UTC)