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I'm getting tired of scrolling w/o a scroll wheel on the schools stupid mouses. I read about something called a double redirect, what is it, why does it need to be fixed, and how do I fix them?RanDawg 14:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If you study programming, you will find that redirects are like pointers. They point the readers to another page. For example, HKCL points to Hong Kong Central Library. Then we may have a representation like:

HKCL -->  Hong Kong Central Library


 * However, note that the redirect is just an arrow. It does not specify the content of the target. The target could be anything. In case the target of a redirect is itself a redirect, then problems come up. Say:

Pagename 1 --> Pagename 2 --> Pagename 3


 * This kind of situation is called a double redirect.


 * In most cases double redirects, or better termed, "redirects that target redirects", aren't big problems, as the real target can be traced continuously following the arrows. However, as I've said before, the target can be any page. If the target can be a redirect, then why can't the redirects cause a cyclic flow and finally go back to the source? Say:

P1 --> P2 --> P3 ^             | |            v P5 <- P4


 * Normally when the user tries to retrieve a page which is a redirect, the target page will be displayed because the route is automatically traced by the server. However, the process ought not re-iterate in case the above cyclic situation happens. Otherwise the server will break down due to improper user data. (In this context "improper user data" refers to the cyclic redirects)


 * So to solve this problem, the MediaWiki engine could do nothing but to stop tracing redirects at one hop. In other words, if a reader tries to retrieve Pagename 1 as of the second chart above, the server will output Pagename 2 saying it is a redirect to Pagename 3, instead of hopping to Pagename 3. With this regulatory feature, the server will not crash when it encounters cycles.


 * But this causes a decrease in readability. When a user retrieves Pagename 1, he wouldn't get anything useful but a redirect link, which is Pagename 2 asking the user to click Pagename 3. So, to solve this problem, whenever editors see redirect targets as redirects, they should retarget the redirect. In the Pagename 1 case, you should edit Pagename 1 (instead of Pagename 2, which is what you get when you deliberately click Pagename 1 without forcing "redirect=no"). Then the situation becomes:

Pagename 1 (skipped) Pagename 2 ---> Pagename 3 \                                    /    -


 * This fixing process is called "fixing a double redirect".


 * Of course, the cyclic situation, as I've said above, is just a dramatic magnification of the double redirect situation. If something like that ever happens in real life, the pages would be brought to WP:RFD as "improper redirects" or even "deliberate technical vandalism".


 * Hope this long essay helps your understanding to the stuff. Exam in 10 hours, I ought not talk too much. --Deryck C. 14:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ouch. Forgot the first question. The keyboard up/down buttons have the same function as the scrollbar when you view webpages. Hope this trivia helps. --Deryck C. 14:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

That helped. Good luck on your exam!RanDawg 18:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

How did you do the boxes? Theres no wiki codeRanDawg 17:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Prepend a spacebar to the beginning of each line. Alternatively, you can use ...  . --Deryck C. 05:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

For my page on Reform the resistance, I need to add references. How would I do that?RanDawg 14:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * There are actually a few ways to add references. One way is to simply add a "references" section and bullet/numbered-list the reference items in it. The other way, which creates numbered footnote anchors, required some wiki markup. At the point where you want to add the note flag (something like [1]) you add a tag, where the "Something" is the thing you want to display in the footnote. At the bottom of the page, you add a to your talk page.
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