User talk:Random86/Archive 7

DYK for Why So Lonely
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for LOL (GFriend album)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:16, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Re: mail to you
Hi User:Random86
 * Thank you for the email. I think everything has been taken of, although the images still need verification on Commons. I didn't directly respond because my email address isn't as anonymous as I would like. Random86 (talk) 22:24, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Random, I should have just talked here anyway, it was just WP related refs. and such. I will continue to help the new user try to understand the Commons process so their photos aren't lost, in particular the older one you found.  You're a real detective!  Thanks again!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 22:33, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I do understand why you sent an email. :) The images that were deleted already can be restored if proof of permission is sent in. It would be great if the article had some art images in it. Random86 (talk) 22:38, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Endorsements sections
Hi! This is in regards to the message you left me on my page. I don't think the edits are unconstructive, as they are a lists of endorsements Uee and Nana has had, similar to the one in Suzy's page, to allow others to understand the artists' achievements more. Thanks! Jsir5 (talk) 08:26, 30 July 2016 (UTC)jsir5
 * , there is previous consensus that a complete list of endorsements is not appropriate. This has been discussed most recently on Talk:Kim Tae-yeon. I just removed Suzy's table for the same reason. Please see Girls' Generation as an example of an appropriate endorsements section. Random86 (talk) 08:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Ahh ok I see! I was not aware that there was such consensus previously. thanks for your clarifications!Jsir5 (talk) 09:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Last Princess (film)
Hello! Your submission of The Last Princess (film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Joe Roe (talk) 10:40, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Hangul Romanization
Hi Random,

Finally gotten the time to complete the personnel section for Lion Heart, but I might not have gotten all the romanization spelling correct. Can you help check it for me? Lion Heart "Party" I'm planning on adding the personnel section for a few more GG/Taeyeon albums soon. Thanks!--TerryAlex (talk) 18:32, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * , sorry for taking so long to respond! Thanks for providing the credits pages. For the album, we also need the song credits pages to have the complete credits. For Mr.Mr. (EP), the picture I had of the credits page was really blurry so I couldn't read everything, but I found clear scans of the song credits pages. So there are some things missing from Mr.Mr. still. Random86 (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will complete the credits for both Mr.Mr. and Lion Heart soon. Don't say sorry, I owe it to you. It's me who is taking forever these days.--TerryAlex (talk) 02:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for The Last Princess (film)
— Maile (talk) 19:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Notability and Deletion
Hi Random86, thank you for your work to Wikipedia. Since I saw that you wanted to do good on your page I applaud you and just want to create a healthy discussion with you. You deleted my page that I wrote about Jungkook due to him not being "notable" enough. Many new fans can disagree with this statement as after Rap Monster (who already has a Wikipedia page), he is by far the one in the group with the most notability. He has written and contributed songs to the BTS roster, was involved in a controversy with Jo Se Ho in a new variety show that is not included on the main band page, and has been delving into a lot of variety shows by himself this year and not just his band, including Celebrity Bromance, King of Masked Singer and Flower Crew. He has also sang a duet with Zion T. and sang a collaboration of "One Dream One Korea" with many notable Korean artists. BTS has been on the surge recently and Wikipedia is a great way for new fans to learn more about people who they want to know. There are ways to learn more about him online but he already has millions of fans and is honestly too popular to not have a mature, compiled, and updated list for fans to go off of. I would understand your reason for notability but the fact remains that there are articles about Kpop idols who debuted far later than BTS, whose articles have not been deleted. For example, Kang Mina from IOI has her own Wikipedia page, but Jungkook is arguably far more notable and has done more than her (I do not mean to offend in anyway). I was just wondering what else Jungkook needs to have done to deserve his own Wikipedia page. I speak of this on behalf of the fans, but if there's any way to revive this page and make Wikipedia better for everyone, then please tell us.

Thank you.

Hahahey568 (talk) 01:14, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Since the last AfD was five months ago, I'll reverse the redirect and give you a chance to improve the page more. If you want the page to stay up, you have to show that he is notable apart from BTS, with reliable sources (so no Soompi, Allkpop, etc.). Just remember that Wikipedia is not a fansite. Random86 (talk) 04:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you. Although I agree with you that Allkpop is unreliable, I do think that Soompi has some credit(?). It might be hard to find sources other than those because a lot of articles about him are in Korean and therefore Soompi would translate those because they have a staff of Korean translators. Would the Korean articles themselves be reliable sources? Hahahey568 (talk) 05:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delayed response. The Korean articles themselves are most likely reliable, unless it's an unreliable source like Pann or Instiz. Soompi is currently considered unreliable, so I don't recommend using it. Have you looked at WP:KO/RS? There are more English-language sources listed there. Random86 (talk) 00:24, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I left the Soompi articles up there but I also supplemented it with an original Korean article also, if that's okay. I do speak some Korean so I will be able to take quotes from these Korean original websites but that might not be enough as a reference to other people so I will try my best to also find a equivalent translation of it also. Thanks Hahahey568 (talk) 03:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Cast order in Doctors
Hello Random, User 2404:E800:E60F:409:56F:550F:398D:F5D3 had a serie of unnecessary edits and he/she changed also the cast order in Doctors, can you help me to revert its? Thanks advance. Kenny (talk) 13:20, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * , you might want to check out WP:TWINKLE. It makes it easier to revert multiple edits, and is also very useful for other tasks. Random86 (talk) 00:27, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll study it and use it in the near future. Thank you. Kenny (talk) 01:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

iKON Article Corrections
Good evening,

I created a Wiki account to update the iKON article in regards to a name correction, monthly and weekly download totals from GAON, and their 1st Japan tour from January to March 2016 but I noticed in their page history all related edits tend to be reverted.

I'm inquiring as to why since it seem very strange that easily verifiable information like their name, downloads, and tours aren't allowed to remain corrected. --Hipployta (talk) 09:32, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please read the article talk page, which explains why the name change is reverted. I can't answer the rest of your question because I don't know what you are referring to. Also note that sock puppetry is not allowed here. Random86 (talk) 11:17, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I read the talk and that still does not make sense. Just because two English sites incorrectly identify them as iKon that seems odd to validate it as their name. I can use several other sites to show other than from their official sources (don't understand why official sources aren't enough to the MOS/TM). Every article on Naver shows them displayed as 아이콘(iKON). A search shows all recent Billboard articles use iKON. I am a little fuzzy on the "Move Review" process. It looks like you are the Closer but then there are comments. If you are the Closer do I need to create a new section to talk to you about it or is here fine. Do I just hyperlink more of these sources? I also checked sock puppet. I have only been on Marvel sub wikis before this. As far as I know this is my only Wiki main account and this is the same username I use on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TV Tropes, Wordpress, Blogger, Livejournal, MySpace and almost every other social page online. You can google with this spelling (not Hippolyta which is the original spelling of the Amazon Queen's name) and even images of me are online. Do you think I'm a fake account because I live in Korea so my IP address is weird? I just finaly got motivated to try to update iKON's page with their GAON downloads after the GAON Mid Year 400 update since it simplifies the citation. --Hipployta 175.223.19.49 (talk) 03:21, 22 August 2016 (UTC)Hipployta
 * , I did not close the move ( was the closer). I linked the page on sock puppetry because iKon-related pages have a history of sock/meat puppetry and three brand new accounts (including yours) starting editing at around the same time, all trying to change the name back to iKON. If you are not related to the other accounts you don't have to worry. Random86 (talk) 00:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

IJWD
Hi Random,

I added content to the I Just Wanna Dance article. The content is definitely there, but I know wordings can be a bit more improved. Can you help please? Thanks so much.--TerryAlex (talk) 05:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey! I just read it, and I think it is pretty well written already. I will read it again later and see if anything could be improved. Random86 (talk) 02:26, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's great then! I read it too much so I was afraid it might sound biased or not neutral enough. Help copyedit for me when you can. I'm currently working on an article and will ask for your input soon. We'll talk later!--TerryAlex (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Random, I attempted to rewrite Tiffany's article here. When you have time, please help copyedit and suggest anything you find odd for me. I want to ask you specifically about the last paragraph. If you have any idea on how to write it better, don't hesitate to discuss. Thanks so much. I look forward to hear from you.--TerryAlex (talk) 02:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like you are on a break from Wikipedia. Until you are back, have fun in real life! (Just swing by to drop you a note)--TerryAlex (talk) 03:10, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Fantastic (TV Series)
CLEANUP FOR Fantastic (TV Series) by --Sunuraju (talk) 13:26, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Blackpink Square One renamed as a single?
Hi Random, just saw renaming of this page.....is it correct? Thanks, --Bonnielou2013 (talk) 06:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Needing editor input!
Random86, dear.....we are missing you! Hope you are are on a wonderful vacation!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 10:37, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Bonnielou2013! I am taking a break from Wikipedia right now, but I know I won't be able to stay away forever. Random86 (talk) 03:56, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Random86, well....you know you are missed! Thank you for letting me know that you are OK! If I was younger, I would never had time for all of this WP stuff! So happy to hear from you!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 09:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Another Oh Hae Young
Hi Random, how are you? Can you help me to return the title of page above to the initial title, please? Because I don't have any right to do that. Thank you advance. Kenny (talk) 20:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Key of Life
The Key of Life (2016 film) by --Sunuraju (talk) 03:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks ! I will be back eventually, just taking a break right now. Random86 (talk) 03:57, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving
Hi Random,

I don't know where you are located, and perhaps you won't be reading this message, but it's Thanksgiving day in the US and I just want to drop by to wish you and your loved ones a happy day. You are one of the Wikipedia friends that I've met and always truly respect. You always strike me with your great level of maturity and leadership. Thanks to you, I've learned a lot over the past few years and I've always been grateful for that. Thanks for everything, buddy! And until you are back, enjoy your real life!--TerryAlex (talk) 17:54, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thinking of me ! I appreciate your kind words and I always respected you as well. I know I will be back eventually but I needed to take a break. I love editing here, but some things about it are frustrating and there is a lot of drama. I see that Girls' Generation is still a GA nominee, so I guess no one has reviewed it yet? I will definitely come back to help with that if a reviewer takes that on. Random86 (talk) 03:54, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Girls' Generation is now a Good Article...At last!!! You know it couldn't have been done without your help. Thanks so much! :)--TerryAlex (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, this is good news! Thank you TerryAlex, Simon, and everyone else who worked on it! I'll have to read it again now. Random86 (talk) 05:45, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I miss your presence on Wikipedia! Happy New Year, buddy!--TerryAlex (talk) 05:47, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Hate to ask you while you are on break, but if and when you have a chance, can you take a look at my sandbox and help me copy edit it? I think the content is pretty decent-looking already and is about 80-90% done. It's a relatively long article, so wanna see if wordings can be fixed/improved first before it can be finished up. You know where my weakness is. Let me know if anything sounds odd. Simon and I want to push it for GA eventually, so we will see what we can do. But if you don't have time though, just ignore my message. Thanks! :)--TerryAlex (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Question
Hi Random86! I need your help in something, on List of awards and nominations received by Big Bang, there are Melon Popularity Awards it's an awards giving weekly by MelOn based on the charts and public voting, but it's not listed on the total awards by the group, I've check the guidelines on WikiProject Korea/Article guidelines, and it's not an award from fan-based entertainment sites or neither unreliable site. So I don't know why the 19 awards are not listed on the total awards of the group? The awards is giving to the winning artist/groups and there are news about it here, here, here & here. I've went on discussion with one of the users who kept deleting it because the awards are not "notable and important". But I don't see it that way, since it's giving by a well known site, with trophy, and based on chart & voting. Do you think it should be counted with the full list of awards or not? Thank you. GD.BB (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested input
Hello, I frequently see you contribute to articles listed in WikiProject Korea/Popular culture and would very much appreciate your input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture so that a conclusion towards variety show appearances can be made. Thanks. Abdotorg (talk) 18:50, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Exo's Korean and Chinese version of the songs
Hello! in EXO discography, should the sales of Korean and Chinese versions of one song be counted as one? I would appreciate your input here → Talk:Exo discography. Thank you. GD.BB (talk) 05:10, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey there
Nah, don't worry, I'm not here to ask you any favors. :p Just feel like dropping by to say hi! :) Long time no talk, buddy.--TerryAlex (talk) 05:32, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, it has been a long time! Thanks for stopping by! :) Random86 (talk) 03:34, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Arguement
Hey why you changed the twice discography single in candy pop that's the official sale now. NaSaChaeTzu (talk) 12:42, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

NaSaChaeTzu NaSaChaeTzu (talk) 12:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The Twice discography article has Oricon sales, not Billboard Japan. If you want the page to have Billboard Japan sales, that's a big change so there would need to be a discussion on the article talk page first. Also, when you made your edit you didn't include a source and your edit summary was "Fixed typo" which isn't really true. Random86 (talk) 04:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Me nitpicking about list styles.
Hi Random86, I noticed you reverted some changes where I capitalized genres in the infobox lists.

To me, Item1 · item2 · item3 looks wrong, because each item became an individual thing since they're clearly separated.

I went to the Wikipedia Infobox page and here they also capitalize each item.

I was wondering if you agree that this looks better and more consistent.

Kind regards,

Parotrore (talk) 22:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello . On Template:Infobox album it says "Note that most genres aren't proper nouns, and shouldn't be capitalized, but the first word in the list should be." If you look at the song and album articles in Good articles/Music you will see this is established Wikipedia style. Random86 (talk) 02:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hm, I also read that thing about proper nouns, but it's odd how they point to the notes which again uses capitalized items in the list. I think it would make sense to only capitalize the first item when using commas as separators like in My Boo (Usher and Alicia Keys song) and Another One Rides the Bus. But you've clearly shown the large majority uses the "Item1 · item2 · item3" way of doing the lists. I disagree, but I'll adapt to this style for consistency. Thanks for your response. Parotrore (talk) 13:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Help
Hi, sorry to bother you Just wanted to see if you can help me with this matter. Since January 2018 Gaon Chart stopped publishing their data on streaming and download charts and started giving certifications to the songs released in 2018, but for the songs released before 2018 they confirmed if those songs have surpassed the numbers required for a certification through Gaon Chart Community 1:1 문의 게시판 section (which is only accessible for members). Since then some songs including Bigbang's Bang Bang Bang, Twice's TT, IU's Palette, Black Pink's Playing with Fire and BTS's Spring Day have surpassed these milestones and received confirmation from Gaon Isn't there a way to reflect this sales on Wikipedia discography pages considering that some of this songs have appeared on the existing Gaon Mid-year 2018 Download Chart? Can't we use that chart as a source? Thanks for reading this. Pooriyaa (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello . I'm aware of the Gaon chart changes but unfortunately messages from the 1:1 Inquiry Board can't be used as sources on Wikipedia. They are private messages between Gaon staff and registered users so they are not verifiable. Screenshots of these messages posted on Twitter/Baidu could also easily be faked if someone wanted to do that (I don't believe they are, but it's a possibility). Random86 (talk) 02:58, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer Pooriyaa (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * – Gaon is now posting these updates publicly (first one is here) so the numbers can be added to articles now. Random86 (talk) 16:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me Pooriyaa (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Red Velvet Hall Tour
Hi Random86,

I noticed you reverted my edit about Red Velvet Red Room Hall tour attendance. You said the 20k attendance the source https://avexnet.jp/news/detail.php?id=1000348 mentioned is about the 2 Tokyo arena concerts in March.

Well you are absolutely right it mentioned that but if you kept reading later on it said that Red Velvet Red Room concerts mobilized total of 40k people in Japan that is where I got the 20k attendance for the Red Room Hall Tour. This few days old Rolling Stone Japan article http://rollingstonejapan.com/articles/detail/28899 also mentioned that Red Velvet Red Room mobilized total 40k people in Japan this year.

So basically 20k people for Red Room 2 arena concerts in March + 20k for Red Room Hall Tour = total of 40k people attendance for Red Room concerts in Japan. Kaisitten (talk) 08:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh I see where you got that now. I will revert my edit (sorry about that!). Random86 (talk) 16:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)