User talk:Rangasyd/Archive 11

Carss Cottage
I'd think the cottage is a building, not the park that contains it. Dave Rave (talk) 02:33, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree, it is. But the park is not notable enough to have its own article. Suggestions on how best to handle.... just cleaning up all of Sydney's parks. Rangasyd (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Carss Park (reserve), or Carss Bush Park, needs an entry or sub-heading, the park has a history, mostly the same as the Carss Park, New South Wales suburb, cut it out or flesh it out, but a building is a bulding. Dave Rave (talk) 03:39, 12 January 2020 (UTC) (( User:Dave Rave/Jonathan Croft I can start them but not word them ))
 * and of course I put the extra infobox (Grave pic) in the article to confuse you, good job me Dave Rave (talk)
 * There ya go.... Carss Bush Park is done. Rangasyd (talk) 04:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

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An IP revert
dissappointed you removed all historical data... What was your reason to do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.22.143.229 (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hopefully I have correctly restored the revert. Aoziwe (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ve got no idea what this is all about. Perhaps a link to the revert would be good. Users can be disappointed for any edit; however, if the edit was for good reason, justification of the restoration is required, other than expressing disappointment. Rangasyd (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC) Rangasyd (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry - this one. Aoziwe (talk) 09:18, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Discussion on this topic has been redirected to Talk:List of major bushfires in Australia as it is not relevant on my talk page. Please refrain from discussing this topic here. Thanks Rangasyd (talk) 10:52, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Greetings - thanks for contrib to Evelyn Barron - comment on history & politics
Dear Rangasyd, I was so pleased to see an entry for Evelyn Barron, MLC NSW - thank you! I am a beginner-editor. This is my first message to another Wiki editor on their Talk page. I saw your interest in local political history. There's yawning lack of information on Wikipedia about these Australian women's organisations (in contrast to their British equivalents), some of which are listed in the article for Evelyn Barron but have no links. I wonder if you'd be interested in these groups for your 'to do' list? Figbird (talk) 10:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Wow, that was ten years ago. Your edit to Evelyn Barron was very selective by picking just one speech in the Upper House. That would imply that during her 12-year parliamentary career she spoke once only; and on this issue alone. I would suggest that you remove; or, add a series of references that demonstrate her interest in women's rights, etc. Also, we would never write "In reply, Mr Fuller Vice-President of the Executive Council reported that in 1972..." A tighter version of the same would be "John Fuller replied that in 1972...". I hope this helps you and happy editing. Rangasyd (talk) 10:58, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Long Gully Bridge
Thanks for the big expansion - you should try for "Did you Know". I couldn't believe there was not article on it. I searched for about 10mins to find anything, but it really wasn't on wikipedia until i created it recently. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 09:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * A pleasure. I'm not really into DUK. Happy for you to nominate if you want. The article needs some more work. It's not quite got the right level of detail regarding its structure as a bridge, traffic volumes, etc. Also, please be careful to distinguish places being listed on the New South Wales Heritage Database and the New South Wales State Heritage Register. Cheers. Rangasyd (talk) 09:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I started a collation of info in a user page for that, not much but a little Dave Rave (talk) 09:58, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

George Pell
Read the judgment before editing

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA//2020/12.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:3C21:100:20D7:C0F4:CA32:CEE8 (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Please do not add small tags to infoboxes
In general, small and  are not permitted in infoboxes, for accessibility reasons. See MOS:FONTSIZE for details. I have fixed a few of your recent edits. Thanks for expanding the infoboxes for these bridges. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I noticed your edits and, from now, won't be using small and  for future edits. I can go back and change the bridges I've been working on - road bridges in New South Wales. Cheers and thanks again. Rangasyd (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. There is always something new to learn about editing at Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:04, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Australia and tons
Until wiki and recently I'd never even heard of this American short/long tons rubbish. Geez, a weight is a weight. can we do something about ridding 'our' pages of this atrociousness ? and, another thing, this constant PC wiki metrification of everything length, every Australian item is WP:Units non-scientific articles with strong ties to the United Kingdom, British precision old school. Nothing in 18560 was built to a millimeter. Put all things with original spec with an order flip if applicable/available/possible, where to raise an Australian wide query for consensus ? Dave Rave (talk) 09:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Huh? Speak in English and give examples, Thanks :-) Rangasyd (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Ingalara
can I take out the Culture part and leave it at Cornwall|Cornish ? also bridge I can add in. Dave Rave (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:BOLD. Done. Rangasyd (talk) 10:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Bridges in COrnwall link is much better-er that Cornish Culture. I need that ref to read, typical SHR - some detail no detail, to further my more edumacation .... but ... does the St George bridge be the only link to what this is supposed to be ? the extra link, two lines up, shows if the supports were shortened it would be a queens post truss, but then, the (File:Moorswater Viaduct.jpg) Moorswater and (File:St Austell viaduct.jpg) St Austell also look sort of stretched similar, though not as near to a simple small contraction of the St George. Dave Rave (talk) 06:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Bourke railway station template positioning
I noticed you moved the route template on Bourke railway station to the bottom of the article. Personally, I think it makes a lot more sense to have it in the "Services" section but I was curious to see why you made that change. Cheers, trainsandtech (talk) 07:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My descision was based on the following:
 * Adjacent stations are, by definition, succession boxes. See Category:Rail transport succession templates. I've not seen any clear directive on where these (transport) succession boxes must be placed. So, that creates some ambiguity.
 * Navigation template states: "Navboxes are footer templates that sit below the standard article appendices and are laid out horizontally." And in my mind, they're a type of navbox.
 * WikiProject Trains lists stations and, of those that I viewed, all the adjacent station navboxes were located at the footer of each article.
 * WikiProject Stations provides options for placement of the navbox: "A table should exist, displaying the line(s) and the next stations on that line, with a link to the appropriate line. Adjacent stations should be used, which can be placed either in the infobox, under a separate section titled "Services", or at the bottom at the page."
 * So, in short, #1 provides no direction; #2 and #3 are quite clear in that a footer is preferred; and #4 gives options that include a footer. Hence, I choose to move to a footer. If I see others, I'm likely to take the same action. I hope this helps to clarify my actions. Rangasyd (talk) 08:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying. Since there is a “Services” section, perhaps it would be appropriate for the infobox to go there? This seems to be the case with most NSW railway station articles (usually under a section titled “Platforms & Services”). Either way, it’s a relatively minor change and I can see the reasoning for both placements. trainsandtech (talk) 11:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Tunnels
Lilyvale is part of the Helensburgh South Coast seven, Newnes has two, on glow worm tourist, one now road. Dave Rave (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Edit. Rangasyd (talk) 18:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * M2 - Epping - (road) Eastern Distributor, fix a lands to lanes Southern Cross Drive tunnel, same but separate between airport tunnel and M5 East is Cooks River tunnel column heading, Length has a cite to Bozier, don't use length unknown on a rail tunnel when they're all listed. Dave Rave (talk) 11:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please, stop making comments and just edit. Don't comment again; I'm tired of your games. I will not be making any of the above corrections. You can do it. Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 08:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Lapstone Zig Zag
Glenbrook Stn isn't there, it's where I marked it already. why mark the zig zag coords at the station ? Lapstone didn't exist when it was built, so it's not between lapston stn and Glenbrook stn, it's between the knapsack viaduct and the end of tunnel deviation (I suppose, though that wasn't there when it was built) so let's say Breakfast Point station, which wasn't there when it was built. Botton points ? Dave Rave (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please, stop making comments and just edit. Don't comment again; I'm tired of your games. I will not be making any of the above corrections. You can do it. Thanks. WP:BOLD Rangasyd (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * please research a little better than looks good enough Dave Rave (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:List of buildings and structures in the Australian Capital Territory
Hi Rangasyd,

I noticed your message on the above page earlier this morning. I generally agree with your views re the state of the article. I will post a response respond to your proposals in the near future.

Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 06:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Malek Fahd Islamic School
Hi Rangasyd, Greetings. I left an advisory note on the talk page of Malek Fahd Islamic School that may be of interest to you, so I thought I should give you a heads-up in case you were. Kangaresearch (talk) 15:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of St Joseph's College, Nudgee GPS premiership results for deletion
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Files for discussion/2020 June 25
Hi Rangasyd, as a respected editor I wondered if you had a few moments to contribute to a second RfC on the retention of an image of the Reverse of the Australian Antarctic Medal. It's been re-nominated for deletion by one editor at Files for discussion/2020 June 25, following consensus on its retention previously. As the original RfC was only comprised of 4 views, I think it might help the other editor involved if there was a wider input. It's all fairly short, so takes no more than a minute or two of reading, and you are welcome to express any opinion you think is appropriate. Thanks in advance if you can spare the time.  Kangaresearch  04:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


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Category:Shubra Hall has been nominated for deletion
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Category:Sodwalls, New South Wales has been nominated for deletion
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Nick Greiner's Spouse
I see that in Feb 2014 you made a revision https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Greiner&diff=prev&oldid=596591233 to Nick Greiner's page, which included this updated line in the infobox : |spouse = Kathryn Greiner (sep. 2013)

There are two things which are not clear to me here.

(1) Did you deliberately change "AO" (two letters) to "A0" (letter plus number zero)? If so, why?

(2) Is "sep" (in "sep. 2013") an abbreviation for "September" or "separated"? If it is supposed to be "separated" then I suggest making a change to disambiguate - someone has later revised it from "sep" to "Sep" which makes it look more like September.

--Djk20 (talk) 06:21, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Howdy. Thanks for all that.
 * It must have been an oversight to change AO to A0. I've corrected.
 * sep. = Marital separation. I've used the marriage with the |end=sep. to remove any disambiguation.
 * Hence it reads, |spouse = Kathryn Greiner (m. 1970-2013)
 * I hope that helps. Thanks again. Cheers. Rangasyd (talk) 09:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing those things and explaining. Much appreciated. Djk20 (talk) 10:45, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Admiral of the Navy
Your edit back in 2016 is currently being cited by this edit today. I don't know whether the current editor is correct, but his edit comment certainly violates civility. Tarl N. ( discuss ) 02:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the edit comment does lack civility. I'm not going to enter into an edit war. My aim here is to improve articles where I can and in a productive manner. Thanks again for reaching out. Stay safe and well. Rangasyd (talk) 09:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

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