User talk:Ranitahiti

Help me!
Please help me with... Bonjour,

Lors de l'élaboration d'une biographie, est-ce possible de citer comme source le blog personnel de la personne sur qui on fait la biographie?

En effet, je travaille sur la page en Anglais de Mr. Gunter Pauli. Ce dernier a un blog personnel (très fiable, je l'ai moi-même contacté via son blog et il m'a répondu), sur lequel j'aimerai donc m'appuyer.

Merci d'avance pour votre réponse.

--Ranitahiti (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC) Ranitahiti (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I will answer in both English and Google Translated French, however it would be helpful if you could converse in English on English Wikipedia.
 * The personal blog of Mr Pauli would not be suitable as a source as it is a Primary Source, not secondary. Further, it will not be classed as a reliable source as it is what Mr Pauli says about himself... Please see WP:42. Can I ask what you connection is to Mr Pauli?
 * Bonjour, je répondrai en anglais et en français traduit par Google, mais il serait utile que vous puissiez converser en anglais sur Wikipedia anglais.
 * Le blog personnel de M. Pauli ne conviendrait pas comme source car il s'agit d'une source primaire et non secondaire. De plus, il ne sera pas considéré comme une source fiable car c'est ce que M. Pauli dit de lui-même ... Veuillez voir WP: 42. Puis-je vous demander quel est votre lien avec M. Pauli?
 * - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 13:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No. Usage of primary sources is discouraged in biographies of living people (BLPs). And blogs (which are self-published sources (SPS)) are more or less disallowed due to the lack of verifiability (policy on SPSs and BLPs). Due to the sensitive nature of BLPs, we generally allow only reliable sources for sourcing on BLPs. And anyways, Wikipedia is interested in what secondary, reliable sources say about a person (or anything in general), not what the person has to say about themselves.  Java Hurricane  13:27, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, as Rich mentioned above, please let us know how you are linked with Mr. Pauli: if you are paid by him for your work, or are closely related to him. It is absolutely essential that you reply truthfully in this regard.  Java Hurricane  13:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey ! Thank you both so much for your answer!

Sorry I didn't know I was on English Wikipedia... I thought I was on the French one. (I am new on Wikipedia... I learn everyday). But no problem, I can converse in English! :)

I have no personal link with Mr. Pauli. I am only a volunteer who help his foundation with several works to do.

Thank you very much for your precious informations. Now I know!

I'm trying to respect the rules here, but it's not so easy at the beginning...

Thanks again!

--Ranitahiti (talk) 13:33, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * As you are a volunteer helping his foundation, you have a COI (Conflict of interest) with him: you'll have to declare your COI as mentioned here. See Plain and simple conflict of interest guide for more guidance on this topic. It's essential this is done.  Java Hurricane  13:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh ! Really? But I never meet him ! I'm just trying to complete his page by taking reliable informations on internet. --Ranitahiti (talk) 13:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

I am not even a member of his foundation. I was just asked to enrich the page. Nobody told me to put specific informations or anything. I am just making some research on Internet. --Ranitahiti (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Nonetheless you have, according to Wikipedia's definition, a COI, so it's best to declare it and confirm with said policy. I can understand it is frustrating, but that's how things occur here: it's a protocol of sorts best followed for all's best. Hope you understand. Also, could you tell us who "told" you to "enrich" the page?  Java Hurricane  15:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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