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Bro, You changed News24 back to 'was' status even thought it is still on air.
Bro, You changed News24 back to 'was' status even thought it is still on air. AK The WikiEditoror (talk) 14:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @AK The WikiEditoror and you need to read WP:EVADE. You've been blocked how many times now?  I don't deal with sockpuppets, just revert them. A good faith editor can make the changes.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not a sock. I haven't made any meaningless edits. I have only updated Disney Star channes page with list of Walt Disney Company's shutdown channels as their brands are merging. I have edited Categories of various articles based on channels because they are no longer on air and have been permanently shutdown. AK The WikiEditoror (talk) 14:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So, also need to get those articles semi-protected to prevent further disruption from your next account(s). Cool, thanks for the warning on that. Sadly, folks here just aren't that dumb, no matter how much you want us to be.  Lying doesn't help you at all in this case, it just demonstrates even more why you were blocked in the first place.  Wikipedia is a collaborative environment.  You don't get to do your own thing and ignore everyone else.  The Standard Offer is your only realistic chance at getting unblocked, but that's a minimum of six months of no editing and then convincing admins that despite the evidence, you can be a productive editor and not repeat the past mistakes.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Not to mention sources are a good thing to, you know, show others that the edit is right. But fear not, I've asked for you to be blocked for sock puppetry.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Excuse me sir/ma'am, each and every edit made by me contains factual evidences. Then why are you reverting every time?
I also added citations to prove them. So there's no question about facts. B6S19J10 (talk) 08:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @B6S19J10, Presenting mythology as a facts using a clickbait source is not acceptable on Wikipedia. There's a good page on the types of sources that should be used on historical articles like this - WP:HISTRS.  Clickbait articles that parrots obvious myths are not good sources.  Even the tag at the top of the India Today article is patently false - "the first warrior to fight for his native land against foreign rulers".  Really?  No countries before 1540 invaded other countries?  Please discuss this on the article talk page.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you should learn how to write in english because "as a facts" does not mean anything. Secondly, the title at the top of India Today is talking just about India. If you know enough english then you will be able to see that "the first warrior to fight for his native land against foreign rulers" means "the first warrior to fight for India against foreign rulers". Thirdly, if you know how to check whether a page or a site is true or fake then you will come to know that the site which I have entered in the citation is not a fake one. And if you don't know about India Today then you should check Wikipedia for the same. And lastly, Chetak is not a myth if you know enough about Indian history. Then why are you reverting that. Also, the same facts are mentioned on Jagran's website which does not say "the first warrior to fight for his native land against foreign rulers". So, nothing is myth. And you can check that Jagran is not a click bait on Jagran Prakashan. And its click bait; clickbait does not mean anything. Thank you. B6S19J10 (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @B6S19J10 yes, it's pushing mythology using poor sources. Again, please bring this up on the article talk page and see if you can get consensus there. Ravensfire  (talk) 15:46, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Ritesh9039
Hii Ritesh this side, I have a question that why you are reverting my changes in the wikipedia Ritesh9039 (talk) 15:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Are you asking to Ravensfire? B6S19J10 (talk) 15:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * , you're promoting a scraper/blogging site that does not meet the WP:RS criteria. Please read the warnings left on your talk page about this.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hii, so your point is that I am promoting an bloggers website. For your kind information I personally follow that website and information provided on the portal is 100% genuine. If than also you have any problems with the edit plead let me know. Ritesh9039 (talk) 15:58, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:SPS - blogs are self-published sources and should not be used on Wikipedia.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Bro, read Trendsetteive tag it's New & Media, so according to me it's a valid source to take information from the portal. Ritesh9039 (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Take this to the Reliable Source noticeboard if you want, but any further spamming without consensus it's a good source and I will report you for spamming the site.  Blogs are not a reliable source for Wikipedia, don't use it.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey, according to me it's a valid source, so reporting me as a spammer is not a good way to stop someone from spreading information to the general public. Moreover, all the details which are mentions in the website blogs are completely reliable and genuine. The people behind the desk of trendsetterlive are expert and experienced in work. Ritesh9039 (talk) 16:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Notes to self. Hmmm, this was spammed earlier by Krishanu Ghosh 2022 who was blocked by spammed.  There's a "shocking" level of similarity in www.trendsetterlive.com/news/supreme-court-slams-ekta-kapoor-for-xxx-web-series-says-you-are-polluting-minds-of-the-young-generation-of-this-country/35841/ and  which was published a day earlier.  So spamming a site that looks like it's copying from other, far more reputable news sites.  Pretty sure this will end up SPB.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

So, if you are telling that it's not good and spamming. Then bro, I will be providing you with a housands of links like this, so just go and disavow all the link, will it will be alright. Ritesh9039 (talk) 02:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Dear Ishq
Hello @Ravensfire I hope you're doing well. I have added a link of OTT Play for review section. Is it considered as reliable sources per WP:ICTFSOURCES? Please a humble request if could you assist me in expanding the review section, as I'm not good in writing it in own word (also I'm cautious not to indulge in copyvio). Thanks, hope to get a positive response soon. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 16:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @C1K98V this is for Dear Ishq, I think? The broader question of are reviews on OTTPlay a reliable source is in part an easy yes as some of them are pulled from Film Companion, Hindustan Times and a few other major sources.  Reviews from those sites are clearly noted as coming from a partner.  This one isn't from a partner, so does the reviewer meet MOS:TVRECEPTION (also see MOS:FILMCRITICS)?  The reviewer, Shaheen Irani, has written a fair number of reviews both on OTTPlay and previously at Deccan Chronicle, so I would think they are a professional reviewer. There's some iffy phrasing/word choices that make me wonder a bit about the editorial oversight, but only a bit and honestly, that's more and more the norm.
 * There's some good advice in the TVRECEPTION on reviews that may be useful. With a new show, the advice about finding reviews for the season isn't possible, so ignore that.  Reviews should be paraphrased as much as possible, with editors avoiding vague, non-descriptive claims about an episode. Non-descriptive claims do not provide the reader with the context necessary to understand why the reviewer liked or disliked an episode. is relevant though.  I like that you didn't quote from the review (summarize the entire review, don't pull out quotes!), but it's really short and doesn't give any context on why the reviewer criticized the episode.  "In a review of the first episode, the show was sharply criticized for being cliched, lack of focus, and questionable camera shots.  They felt it was more in line with a typical Hindi television show than a web series."
 * Hope that helps some.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ravensfire yes its for Dear Ishq, I wasn't sure about the reliability of OTT play, but after cursory look found its being used in multiple article on wikipedia, so I did add the link. I read what Shaheen Irani wrote and found that s/he kind of criticize the series, for being predictable, repetitive etc. So I basically kept it short (in view as I'm confident in writing in own words and also don't want to do copyvio mistake any further). But I glad that you explained in detail from all perspectives. Thanks, stay safe C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 23:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Minor edits
Hello there. I will keep what you said about the checkbox for minor edits in mind and add the sources to my changes even though it's already obvious that films' pages that I am making changes to obviously make sense because of the impact that those films have had on the Indian film industry NateLeeford (talk) 03:15, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @NateLeeford, some of your changes are what's called original research, meaning it's your view about something. Wikipedia articles need to be based on information that readers can verify which is why the need for reliable sources is critical.  If you have a good reliable source that discusses the impact, include that as a reference.  If you don't, please don't add it as it's likely to be removed.  Ravensfire  (talk) 04:17, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * In that case I have cited some reliable sources like CNN, indian express, and south china morning post in my citations. Would those suffice? NateLeeford (talk) 04:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * just wanted to make sure you know that the sources I cited are because of articles they wrote pertaining to the topic which I have specifically cited NateLeeford (talk) 04:20, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, I am not sure if I am allowed to do this, but could you take a look at the following page and make sure that there is no unsourced puffery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangubai_Kathiawadi). Thank you for checking to make sure my edits were sourced and credible. NateLeeford (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

User Bommimaran
Hi bro, user Bommiran looks like a fan of Jothika. She/he is editing Simran's page and discrediting her works in her film articles and Simran page itself. Please review her contributions. It is a vandalism in my opinion. User talk:Bommi maaran 2023 Ason27 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Already blocked as a sockpuppet. Remember to assume good faith about editors until you know they aren't acting in good faith.  Editors can disagree about the importance of someone and there are without question some aspects of Simran's page that are more fan-pov than they should be.  You can disagree with someone's edits, but avoid commenting about the editor outside of venues like ANI or SPI.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:30, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Fighter
I've expanded Fighter (2024 film). Can you please help me to expand and fix typos and grammars. SuperSharanya (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Note - this editor has been blocked as a sockpuppet of a prolific LTA account.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Use of INRConvert in infoboxes
Hi @Ravensfire. I saw your edit summary on this edit to Indian 2, where you wrote "Per WP:ICTF consensus, INRConvert template should not be used in infobox, only in article body. I opened a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers about whether that consensus should be noted in the MOS guideline at MOS:CRORE that encourages use of INRConvert. If you have an opinion on that, I encourage you to add your voice. Thanks.  &mdash;  Archer1234  (t·c) 14:47, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me, thanks for the pointer to the discussion.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Message
I had just erased this wrong information provided in Shahjahan (film) article "They have erected a puppet Taj Mahal with this Shahjahan as a succession of predictable scenes and weak incidents". "and reverted to old version Jhonsyrani (talk) 17:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You've added unsourced material - that's not good. You also removed a quote from a reliable source with no basis given, that's not helpful.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

== May I know what are you deleting my edits of Prema Entha Madhuram? All the ratings are given by BARC India. And those awards are presented by Zee Telugu channel itself. Then, what's wrong in mentioning them? Please, I want an answer ==

please answer Alsk 123 (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Alsk 123, as I noted on the welcome message I left, your edits don't have a source and are written in POV langauge ("instantly became immensely popular"). Remember this is an encyclopedia, not a blog, hype-driven trade site or forum.  Professional, fact-based language supported by analysis done by WP:RS|independant reliable sources]] and citing those sources is what should be in Wikipedia articles.  When you don't include those sources, readers can't verify the information which goes against a core pillar of Wikipedia, that readers can verify what's in articles.  When including awards, only notable awards (meaning the award show has it's own Wikipedia article) should generally be included.  There are a LOT of awards out there, we want to include only the significant ones in our articles.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The Awards were presented by the channel itself. What more do you want? And those Ratings are published and are highly authentic. Broadcast Audience Research Council of India publishes the TRP Ratings. It took a lot of time for me to gather the information. It is not fair enough to erase all my information. Is it? Alsk 123 (talk) 18:29, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Is it fair to hold everyone else to the normal standards and give someone free reign? Wikipedia has standards and guidelines on what content should be included in articles.  The existing ratings table in the article has a source for the numbers.  My suggestion would be to use information from those articles (and make sure to reference those sources!) and see what analysis those sources have done.  Remember you need to rewrite the information completely in your own words, not copy-paste lines from the articles.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello! I'm Alsk 123 replying from a different account of mine. Would you mind elaborating for me on how to re-write the information accurately? Also, Could you explain me in citing the sources? Balak123 5 (talk) 18:38, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm, using multiple accounts on the same page is generally something to avoid. It makes it difficult for other readers to follow and can appear to add weight in discussions.  Having multiple accounts is permitted, but the strong preference is for you to add notes to the user page of each account noting the alternate accounts (see WP:VALIDALT).
 * On your questions, I would suggest starting by reading some of the pages that have been linked on the messages on your talk page(s). There's a lot of good information there.  You can also ask at the WP:TEAHOUSE.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, May I have some details about you? I have noticed you many times reverting others edits for no reason at all. I'm new to Wikipedia. I would be glad enough to have some more detailed information about citing the official sources, POV tones and more. Would you mind giving me a detailed explaination on all these aspects? Balak123 5 (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, the information about me that I choose to reveal is what you'll find on my user talk page.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Note that I did revert you again as your edits had the same issues - lack of sources and a POV tone.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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Drafts article to published version
can you please move Drafts article to published version? Vasantham Star 2023, Accidental Farmer and Co, Ilakkiya (TV series), Raju Vootla Party, Raju Vootla Party P.Karthik.95 (talk) 11:15, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @P.Karthik.95, Please be patient - remember that there is WP:NODEADLINE, we want to have quality articles. There's a limited number of reviewers.  I'm not a reviewer, so I can't help with reviewing them.  Just taking a quick look, in general I think they look fairly good.
 * Draft:Vasantham Star 2023 - some capitalization issues (genre, some other places), would like to see some reviews of the series to really show notability, existing sources seem to be before the release.
 * Draft:Accidental Farmer and Co - some capitalization issues (genre, some other places), would like to see some reviews of the series to really show notability, existing sources seem to be before the release.
 * Draft:Ilakkiya (TV series) - some capitalization issues (genre, some other places), would like to see some reviews of the series to really show notability, existing sources seem to be before the release. Plot obvious copy-paste from Sun's website, that's a no-no right there. Several sources are questionable (searcharoundweb does not appear to be an actual reliable source, remember just because a site exists and shows up in Google does not mean it is reliable).  Indiantvinfo is basically a database dump site, not a solid source.  I didn't look at the remaining sources, but you should take a critical look at them.  Ratings section generalizes from two datapoints.  Multiple citation needed tags exist.  The casting session needs to tightened some - shouldn't be mentioning other shows an actor as been in.  Focus on the article subject, not name-dropping.
 * Draft:Raju Vootla Party - LOTS of duplication in this article, clearly not ready for mainspace. Lead needs tightening.  Filming location should be in a production, not lead.  Lead is way too wordy in general.  Sections needs to be re-ordered.  The premise/plot should be before the background section.  Cast should be right after premise/plot section.  More sources needed in the background section.  Airing section is too wordy.  Character identification and image should be combined with cast.  Episode overview/summary sections should be combined and gratuitous images removed.  Adapted from section should be removed and mentioned in a production section.
 * I feel some work's needed on all of them to get a clean review.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:24, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, you mark a LOT of your edits as minor. Most of them are not actually minor edits.  Edits like, , ,  are NOT minor.  Please read WP:MINOR and only use that checkbox when it is appropriate.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

okay, i understand--P.Karthik.95 (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Your thoughts on this?
I think she's back..

I was reverting vandalism when I came across Cyb Bots and Boseshub98, users that make almost the exact same edits as Nalina. The same unsourced, no edit-summary edits, all of them being mobile and most of them to Indian films, I'm not entirely sure if it's her, what do you think? Din oz1  (chat?) 12:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dinoz1, Maybe. I'd like to think that Nalina would be better than making edits like this one. Cyb Bots doesn't feel like her, focused on just one article (so far) while Nalina bounced around a lot, usually expanding the plot section as part of their editing.  Boseshub98 is more likely, but they've been editing since 2020, so I would have expected them to be spotted in the earlier checks.  Their editing feels closer to how Nalina edited than Cyb Bots.  Given the CU commenting about LOUT socking, I'd be shocked if they weren't on a new account, I just don't know who.
 * Hmmmm, Nalina like to put detailed summaries of critical reviews, and used the phrasing "critics and audience" a lot. I've been reverting some edits like that in the past week or two, but I can't remember the account making them.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response! I'll try to keep an eye on these users for further investigation of them. Din  oz1  (chat?) 14:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

i need your help
can you please check this 2 (Aruvi, Anna) article and what's wrong with this 2 article? can you help to remove the deletion discussion? P.Karthik.95 (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @P.Karthik.95, deletion discussions can't just be arbitrarily removed once started. You need to explain why the article should be kept, using reasons backed by Wikipedia notability standards.  Relevant to those articles is Notability (Television) and General notability.  To show the subject is notable, you need to have multiple good reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject.  Not a few lines here or there, or routine marketing fluff articles.  For example, the Aruvi article when it was nominated looked like this - .  Not good.  I would have moved it to draft space, but AFD is always an option when you create something in main article space.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There's also places where you're clearly using excessive references. For simple facts like if a person is cast, use only one good source, not multiple.  If the two sources say basically the same time (Actor XYZ is cast in show PDQ coming soon!!!!!!!!!), that gets treated as a single source by an AFD reviewer, so just use one source only there.  When you're using excessive refs, it looks like you're desperate to get the article kept and adding every little source you can find, and you're not really evaluating the sources.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeh Hai Chahatein
Hey, hope you are doing fine. I would like to bring to your kind attention towards article Yeh Hai Chahatein, it requires cleanup, the plot is extensively heavy and elongated with the show crossing 1000+ episodes. i cannot figure what to do. Can you please have a look at the article and show us some way? thankyou so much!! Imsaneikigai (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Are you handling all the movie pages?
I am just asking because every article, my edits are being reverted by you. Anyway, thank you for the advice and I will use the right and reliable sources next time.12first34 (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @12first34, I've got some 70k edits since 2007, and 12,000 pages on my watch list - which is a long way of saying I've been editing here a while. You had edited a couple of articles on my watchlist, and when I saw multiple places where you were changing numbers away from what the sources say, it's quite common to also check your other edits.  One of the hardest things on Wikipedia is when you KNOW that something isn't right, but you can't find a reliable source to back you up, only blogs, forum posts, junk websites, you can't make the change.  Wikipedia articles need to be supported by reliable sources, so that readers can verify what's in the article.  It's hard to trust any number of strangers, so requiring sources means readers can understand where that information comes from.  Read some of the linked pages in the welcome message I left, they get into this in more detail and some other topics that you might find helpful.  Good luck!  Ravensfire  (talk) 03:30, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Kumkum Bhagya
Can you please add the montage to the Wikipedia page of Kumkum bhagya? There was one but unfortunately it got removed. There’s a new montage now available on zee5. Please upload that to the page. Other shows have their montages on Wikipedia except Kumkum bhagya Riah101 (talk) 01:58, 10 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Please see Files for upload. You will have to give them the image source, and it cannot be a fan-created image.   Ravensfire  (talk) 12:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

A good laugh!
Kind of an old message, but this sockpuppet tried to get me blocked, AND GOT HIS TALK PAGE ACCESS REVOKED A FEW DAYS LATER! On top of that, HE PUT THE SAME EMAIL IN HIS EDIT SUMMARY THAT HIS SOCKMASTER PUT! If you're going to go undercover, do it right! 🤣 Din  oz1  (chat?) 16:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * They must have gone to the Shaggy School of Responsibility - "It Wasn't Me!"
 * "CU came in and they caught me red-handed,
 * Editing with same phone as before,
 * Picture this we were both in Mom's basement
 * Banging on the edit bar.
 * How could I forget that I had
 * Used the same email in my edit summary.
 * All this time they watched,
 * And couldn't believe my stupidity."
 * (with significant apologies to Shaggy for that butchery of his song)  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * HAH! Shaggy would be proud of that! The vandalizer probably got his Master's Degree in Vandalism from the Taco Bell toilet! Din  oz1  (chat?) 16:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * tps nice DMacks (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * OOPS! He did it again! (a good 15 times) Din  oz1  (chat?) 16:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * tps nice DMacks (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * OOPS! He did it again! (a good 15 times) Din  oz1  (chat?) 16:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

This movie collected 111 crore rupees world wide.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/box-office/2018-box-office-collection-day-13-tovino-thomas-starrer-disaster-drama-mints-rs-111-crores/articleshow/100348831.cms?from=mdr Bijzindia (talk) 21:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bijzindia, it's helpful to make sure to include some context on what you're talking about so I don't have to try to puzzle out which article you mean. It looks like you are talking about the film 2018.  The WP:BURDEN is on the person making the edit to include a new source if the old one doesn't support the changes. This edit  didn't do that, so I reverted to the source given.  I would suggest making an edit request on the article talk page for the change you want made, along with the source you linked above.  Ravensfire  (talk) 22:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding the Malayalam Movie '2018' Bijzindia (talk) 12:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Comment from NPS/github/io spammer
Kindly treat this as a warning, and restrict yourself from destructing the content in articles and knowledge base on Wikipedia. It takes time and effort to add or modify content, and you just revert it blindly. This kind of behaviour and actions are not at all acceptable here. 106.51.81.97 (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Removing the WP:SPAM links you continue to add despite warnings is never, ever vandalism. You're welcome to discuss this on the article talk page and alternatively, at the External link noticeboard.  Pushing your website as you've been doing is not acceptable however, and you need to stop. If needed, the site may be put on the spam black list which will stop you or anyone else from adding further links.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Ankit Kumar Pandey
Hi, Ravensfire. I see from your edits that there's maybe UPE by two very recently created, single-issue accounts, and.

Not sure if you've seen it, but there's also an SPI investigation that mentions The Haul and has attracted G20norms: Sockpuppet investigations/Ankit Krs Pandey, which may be related.  Esowteric +  Talk  +  Breadcrumbs   16:05, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * How can we close SPI investigation G20norms (talk) 16:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * By waiting patiently while the investigation is carried out, and decisions are made. You can also add your own comments about the investigation (in the right place) on the SPI page.  Esowteric +  Talk  +  Breadcrumbs   16:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Esowteric, I'm at least suspicious about them, it seems really odd that two editors are pushing an article about someone as relatively minor as Panday. Being an "ambassador" doesn't seem to be a big deal (there's over 200 listed on the fit india website!).  So why the push other than paid editing or COI editing?  That's about all I can figure.  The SPI will be interesting.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:28, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Sumedha Karmahe
Hello @Ravensfire I updated the whole page of Singer Sumedha Karmahe, that got restored to a previous version. Can you please explain why? All the changes were done by me with the facts provided by Sumedha herself. Paragjha90 (talk) 03:32, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Help me
Tirishan (talk) is trying to destroy the pages likes: (Ponni, Kanne Kalaimaane, Eeramana Rojave 2, Muthazhagu, Kanne Kalaimaane, Karthigai Deepam and Anna) of my has been reviewed. can you please stop him. he doing same thing for all article. please please help me. P.Karthik.95 (talk) 13:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @P.Karthik.95, First, WP:AGF that they are making good faith edits. You're over-reacting. Take their edit at Anna - .  They tagged a section as unsourced, that was in fact unsourced.  I removed that section because it wasn't sourced, tagging was being nice.  The rest are taking the article to AFD.  Again, that's not trying to destroy the pages.  Karthigai_Deepam_(TV_series) has  a lot of sources but many look like pre-release fluff and hype.  Same with the other articles, but with fewer sources.  Like WAY too many articles in the India TV area, the article gets created when the show starts, and then nothing else.  How was it received?  Reviews?  Nothing.  My advice would be to stop with the "trying to destroy" hyperbole and respond with policy based points (hint, look at WP:NTVNATL which is an essay, but offers some advice).  And improve the articles.  Don't ref-bomb (which is what's been done at Karthigai_Deepam) - finding two articles that say basically the same thing isn't helpful.  Add sources to unsourced information in those articles.  Find better sources, add those extra details and absolutely comment on the AFD discussions.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:02, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * ok sir, Please give me some time, i make sure make better. what about remake serial, most of remake (Karthigai_Deepam_(TV_series)) serial have a same plot. how can make difference? most of reference in Tamil language, it is any problem? P.Karthik.95 (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @P.Karthik.95, I have zero control over any other user or of any process that's started. You've got a large number of edits, you should know how to improve articles.  putting out basic promotional articles is not helpful.  read the notability guidelines, you need to prove the articles to meet those and comment on the AFD discussions not that the criteria is met, but HOW the criteria is met.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:19, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Shivangi Joshi
shivangi joshi is popular and highest paid actress. and her networth is 37 crore which was said by etimes. she even participated in box criket league season 2 Shreejash Tuladhar (talk) 15:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Shreejash Tuladhar, the problem is that you're adding the information without a reliable source to support it. Please READ the messages left on your talk page, especially the linked pages that help explain why sources are needed and how you can add them in your edit.  If you continue to add the information without a source, it will continue to be removed and eventually lead to you being blocked from editing.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:39, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Comment about Yuvan Shankar Raja
Yenda ipdi pandra Ramsayramsamy (talk) 03:32, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ramsayramsamy, this is the English Wikipedia, please use English to communicate.  Ravensfire  (talk) 03:50, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Translation: Hey, psycho. Why are you doing this? Based on the edits to Yuvan Shankar Raja discography, it is clear that User:Pradeep yuvan is back. DareshMohan (talk) 09:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, figured that out. Which just gets me to look at the articles a bit harder and cull out the fancruft that keeps getting added.  Which probably will make them hate me even more, but hey, I can deal with that, as long as the articles keep improving.  Ravensfire  (talk) 12:08, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of 72 Hoorain
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 * @Nagol0929 thank you! Not sure why the move to draft script didn't do that automatically. Appreciate the tag and the note!  Ravensfire  (talk) 22:23, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * nah it did i just didnt see it at first. Nagol0929 (talk) 23:55, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

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I request you to comment on this discussion. Thanks. Cinephilekrr (talk) 16:50, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Film Companion
Now at RSN - please do !vote. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Now based on this verdict, is any work being done to remove it from the blacklist? Or should one manually request? Kailash29792 (talk)  05:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kailash29792, honestly, I don't know, but I suspect it's stuck in neutral as the other places were waiting for those discussions to complete. I think what's needed is to request removal from the blacklist AND a request to get the edit filter completed (see Edit_filter/Requested/Archive_21, especially at the end), and link both of those discussions to each other.  And then hope that FC doesn't pull the spam thing again.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

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why you put this template again and again in yuvan discography page I think the enough reliable sources added see the external links. Pradeep yuvan (talk) 02:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Pradeep yuvan you've asked and been told the same answer everytime - there ate a LOT of entries without a source. Why are you so desperate to get it removed without fixing the problems?  Are you being paid to edit those articles, or work for a digital marketing company?   Ravensfire  (talk) 03:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Please don't remove the tag without a discussion on the article talk page. It's disruptive and not helpful.  Ravensfire  (talk) 03:08, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * why you are don't apply same rules for other artists discography pages like Hiphop Tamizha discography Vidyasagar discography A. R. Rahman discography and Anirudh Ravichander Wikipedia page Pradeep yuvan (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Pradeep yuvan I'm not watching those articles. There are a lot of other articles where I have put the same sources needed tag for the same reasons I'm doing it here.  Don't try to deflect, this is about one article that needs more sources.  Ravensfire  (talk) 04:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * dai paradhesi iam big fan of yuvan. Pradeep yuvan (talk) 03:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

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Inflation adjustment
Hi, what is there to discuss? And which article talk page you mean? Most don't even respond to discussions, the inflation tool website gives the same results as Wikipedia template for yearly conversions, and more accurate results since it uses monthly rates, so why not use it especially since the template is for 2020 which is 3 years behind? Cinephile4ever 16:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Which article talk page? Talk:Dasavathaaram, that's the article we're discussing here.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay but answer my question? Why should we not use a better source for more updated and accurate figures? And where is it said that only templates must be used mandatorily for conversion? Cinephile4ever 16:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As a general question, it's for consistency and maintenance. By using a template, it ensures that the formatting of how we display conversions is the same across all articles.  In addition, all conversions will use the same dataset and conversion values.  Different sites can give different numbers, the template use the official data from the Reserve Bank of India for all historical data.  The template also has the recommended source for the current exchange rate, making it easy to update.
 * Using the template also dramatically improves maintenance. It's six months from now, let's say you've added the manual conversion to 50 articles, you now have to update 50 articles and update the source (at least the access-date parameter).  And again in six months.  And now you're up to 150 articles.  And again.  Now imagine that across a thousand articles.  Using the template means updating the data in one place, and all of the articles get updated.
 * That's why the template exist - to avoid all of that. Yes, it's not accurate right to today.  That's okay for Wikipedia articles.  As long as the datasets are updated, it's going to be reasonably current.  You'll see the templates used in Featured Articles for those reasons, not manual conversions.  Manual things like that are discouraged on Wikipedia because of the problems that they cause.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:04, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Copying this to the article talk page, please use that for all further discussions on this, not my talk page. Thanks!  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me how you updated the 2021 and 2022 figures from the source? Cinephile4ever 18:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The inflation dataset uses an actual number, not a percent. The trick was which number from the source to use, based on the previous years.  It's the average annual inflation for the year.  Take the number from the previous year, add the average annual increase and you have the number.  The number for 2019 was 8502.  From the inflation.eu source, the average annual inflation for 2020 was 5.58%.  Multiply 8502.7 by 1.0558 and you get 8977.15, round to 8977.1.  That matches what the template had for 2020.  Continue that for 2021 and 2022 and change the default to the 2022 value.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I was about to do that, but got confused by the inflation rate 3.69% for 2020 shown on inflation.eu. Also the previous user who edited for 2020 had rounded off the figure to one decimal, which is why I think there is a difference between the inflation adjusted gross figures that we talked about in the page Dasavatharam (474 crore as per wiki template and 473.04 crore as per inflation tool website). So I think it will be better to give four decimals to get more accurate results. If you see that previous user's edit, you will know there were more decimals given and he deleted them and rounded off to just 1 decimal. Cinephile4ever 19:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I just saw, there were 8 decimals which is much better for more accurate results. I wish that previous user had not deleted them and rounded off to just 1 decimal. Cinephile4ever 19:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * See here there were 8 decimals: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1049503669 Cinephile4ever 19:22, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I saw that, but with the earlier numbers having just one decimal, the general rule is to keep the same level of precision.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright but I thought since we see 8 decimals in the previous figures we can work our way to give 8 decimals for the latest year 2022, since the difference is nearly 1 crore for the film Dasavatharam. And one other thing I wanted to ask, on the same website inflation.eu, the average inflation for May 2023 is also given, is there any possibility we can include that in the dataset to be more updated and more accurate? Cinephile4ever 19:31, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It's about precision. As you go through the revisions, nearly all of them use a single decimal for precision.  The US dataset is single digit after 1800. The IN dataset has 4 and 5 digit precision for data before 1951 - that's probably because of what the source supports.  With the inflation.eu source, we're doing the calculation.  The starting number is a single decimal precision, the multiplier is two decimal precision, the rule of thumb is to use the least precise level.  That's why you see the edits to remove the extra decimals.  Ravensfire  (talk) 20:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The Significant_figures has more information on this.  Ravensfire  (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, what about the average inflation rate 5.52% for 2023 given in that inflation.eu source, can we update that in the dataset so the new value will be 10,522 and why don't we edit the request on those 2 other template pages to change the year from 2020 to 2023. And if the source changes the inflation rate for 2023, we can update the dataset accordingly to reflect the update. Cinephile4ever 03:45, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have updated 2023 in all the 3 template pages, please don't revert it, let's see if they approve the requested edits. Cinephile4ever 08:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you may be pushing it - generally those are used for end of year values, but we'll see what happens.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Cinephile4ever 14:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * They have approved our requested edits. Cinephile4ever 18:37, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

SPI
Do you think User:Jyomon could be a potential sock of Eswaran Naveen? Conversing style and attitude looks similar. The Doom Patrol (talk) 14:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * +1. I do feel its a sock of someone. He/she is straight up removing large amount of content from many articles without tagging {BLP sources}/{citation needed} or trying to find reliable sources for it (Refer his recent edits on Meera Nandan). Is there a place where we can flag this issue? Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Took matter to my own hands. Blocked.--The Doom Patrol (talk) 15:50, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @The Doom Patrol, Thank you, thank you, thank you! I saw this while out of town, and kept forgetting to get back to it.  I knew they were a sock of someone, and suspected EN, but didn't get the time to put it together.  Thank you!  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Gah, the cleanup is going to suck though.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Gadar 2
Hi Ravensfire The movie original name is Gadar 2: The Katha Continuous please edit the article and change name. Thanks Old Godfather Old Godfather (talk) 15:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Old Godfather, please read the message left on your talk page. Do not do copy-paste moves on Wikipedia.  We need to maintain the history of editing on articles and that completely breaks it.  Follow the steps on Requested Moves and start a discussion on the ARTICLE talk page to ask for the page move.  Don't continue to make disruptive edits.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thank you for this - I greatly appreciate the thought and compliments. Need it some days!  Ravensfire  (talk) 02:23, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Jak Roberto is really a "Pambansang Abs"
Why do you always delete my edit if you are not a basher? Khateli20 (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Khateli20, first, stop the personal nonsense. That's not helpful and frankly, it's just petty.  I understand that you believe so, but Wikipedia requires good sourcing to say something in Wikipedia's voice and that's not present.  Use the article talk page section I created to discuss this further.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * And as you have continued to revert, reported to WP:EWN.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have legit sources but you kept on deleting it. Now you blocked me for adding a LEGIT source? 🙄
 * 🙄 Khateli20 (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Khateli20, you really need to read the messages on your talk page and not ignore them. You were blocked because you didn't discuss when your edit was challenged despite multiple attempts and a talk page section being created and just kept reverting.  Your WP:NPA personal comments don't help at all either.  Ask yourself, why should anyone help someone else that keeps dropping petty insults?   Ravensfire  (talk) 15:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I already read your messages here. I am always saying that it is a legit source because it is posted in the official page of GMA Network where Jak Roberto is a talent. Khateli20 (talk) 15:40, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yet you are always deleting it. Khateli20 (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have 2 sources but kept on deleting it. Stupid! Khateli20 (talk) 06:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Why did you add unrefernced section
For Asianet former broadcast all serials which I added the dates are strictly genuine especially from early 2001 till 2021. So please remove that particular phrase on the page of Asianet former broadcast Aspolas (talk) 00:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Aspolas unfortunately, your personal knowledge is not a reliable source for Wikipedia articles. Sources are there so a reader can verify that the information is correct.  There are none in that section.  It's one thing for a currently broadcast show, but yes, reputable sources are needed.  Ravensfire  (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Any better source to find the entire TRP Ratings list since 2023?
Hi Ravesfire. I have noticed that you don't find Tellybong a reliable source for TRP ratings of Bengali TV Shows. Can you suggest a more reliable source for TRP? Lia Shah (talk) 13:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Just because something comes up in a web search doesn't mean it's a WP:RS. Blog style sites generally aren't considered reliable sources from the lack of editorial oversight.  Add in it's a new site and really should avoid.  I would look for news sites that report on the TRP numbers. There needs to be a source for a given number though or it will be removed.   Ravensfire  (talk) 16:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

bollywoodbubble at Sudeepa
Given this edit of yours, should the other link to that site, which is used to support a contradictory year, also be removed? I haven't heard of that website before. DMacks (talk) 22:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The site has all the earmarks of a gossip fluff rag - the about page is very "hip", writing is terrible and there's just clickbait after clickbait articles. I probably should have pulled that link the first time and just missed it.  Ravensfire  (talk) 22:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That article previously had a better (I think?) source for a long time. I rolled it back to that version. DMacks (talk) 18:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Kountry Luv


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 * Hello, I redirected the page to A-Plus TV. If you think that was a mistake, let me know. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  20:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable to me. Thank you.  Ravensfire  (talk) 20:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Reviewed
can you please reviewed the new article? (Meena, Idhayam and Nee Naan Kaadhal)--P.Karthik.95 (talk) 15:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Moving article space to draft space
You moved Baanadariyalli (2023 fil) to Draft: Baanadariyalli (2023 film). Because it is not ready to publish. Then what about this article Baanadariyalli is it ready to publish?? Arumobileworld (talk) 02:13, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Arumobileworld, Generally, film articles shouldn't be in main article space until the film is released. Exceptions are when the film production itself it notable.  Please read WP:NFF, and remember there is WP:NODEADLINE, articles should be published when they are ready and notability is established.  Ravensfire  (talk) 03:55, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Genie (film)
How does this not meet WP:NFILM? That it is a pan-Indian film, with a budget of at least 100 crores, has begun principal photography and has music by an Oscar winner isn't enough? Kailash29792 (talk)  04:15, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Kailash29792 and unreleased and doesn't meet WP:NFF. Everything there is basic marketing fluff and doesn't show the production itself is notable.  But oh!  There's a "grand set"!  Written by the marketing team, I guess.  When it's released there is no question it will meet NFILM.  In the current state, NFF is just not met.  Ravensfire  (talk) 05:12, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright. We'll wait till the article becomes large like Leo or Ayalaan, then the AfC reviewer will decide. Kailash29792 (talk)  05:18, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Both of those are excellent examples of upcoming projects that meet WP:NFF and if Genie gets even close to that level of development, it would be an easy accepted draft.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:53, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Help
Hello, Vanakkam :) could you please help reviewed (Meena, Idhayam, Nee Naan Kaadhal and Kadhanayagi) P.Karthik.95 (talk) P.Karthik.95 (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Earnest James Ujaama
There is a bigger picture is the harm that Wikipedia is causing by publishing online for millions to gather an image of what kind of character and risk this character presents. These are often called "collateral consequences" and we have stronger protections in most states for persons with former criminal justice contact. We must adhere to the BLPs policy. It is very possible that others, especially if they are not a member of the Black American community, can see no harm. However, it is not like Wikipedia or the tech industry has very many Black Americans who are a protected minority class, editing these pages. Nadya Hasan (talk) 04:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Nadya Hasan, you're edit-warring to push a white-washed version of the article. There is a middle ground that should be possible here, but what you're doing hurts any chances of that happening.  You are doing the right thing by reaching out to BLP noticeboard, but the wrong thing by trying to WP:OWN the article and force you're preferred version on everyone.  I'm dropping this from the watchlist, I know a WP:SPA that's WP:RGW and be damned what anyone else might think.  Yes, parts of the article need pushback, but you're ignoring NPOV to paint a false image.  Not worth my time, my interest nor any further space on my talk page.   Ravensfire  (talk) 04:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * And yeah, I read through both versions. As I said, there should be a common ground but your version is as flawed as the version you disagree with.  That's unfortunate that you don't see that.  Ravensfire  (talk) 04:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Rakul Preet Singh
Check this page, all filmography references, awards and nominations are removed changing all formats Arjunsoumithran (talk) 09:39, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like a newish editor that means well but is causing some issues. I think good communication will help, so not just templated warnings but personal notes to them.  That needs to be polite but direct - please don't do XYZ, the page has been previously deleted and there's not enough for a stand-along page. If it continues, this will probably need to go to WP:ANI with a request for an admin to review and try to help the editor.  It's been a couple of days since anything has happened so maybe they've taken in the feedback already.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Fix Google Search issue
The articles 24 News and Nazara TV are not appearing in Google Search. Can you help resolve this issue? TruxtVerified |   [Message]   03:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @TruxtVerified new articles don't show up immediately in the search index. It's usually a 90 day delay. since there's WP:NODEADLINE, that shouldn't be a problem.  Usually only paid editors getting pressure from clients have a major bother . It will show up on time.  Ravensfire  (talk) 03:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Since these articles are formed by translation, will they eventually appear in Google Search?
 * Already, my new articles are now appearing in Google Search (e.g., Republic Kannada and Star Gold Network).￼ TruxtVerified  |   [Message]   03:36, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

ANI notification
Hi, had created an entry at WP:AIV that I have now moved to. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @ToBeFree, thank you for the notice. I've replied there, acknowledging that my edit summary tone was over the top and apologized for that to TruxtVerified.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Where, you should have to apologise in my talk page. Okay TruxtVerified |  [Message]   15:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @TruxtVerified, it was in the ANI thread, and nope, that's the extent. You haven't expressed any remorse for the misuse of the template (disruptive editing), or the false accusation of sock puppetry (WP:NPA). I not making any demands of you in this matter - accept what's been give, learn from this and move forward.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Syed Hassan Jafari - question from a sockpuppet
Hi, is the draft Draft:Syed Hassan Jafari now good for mainspace? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4040:49e5:8100:98d8:bd7:968:35a9 (talk) 12:47, November 18, 2023 (UTC)
 * Start by reading Block Evasion page. YOU, the person behind the HassanHussainOfficial and now Ding786 accounts are blocked.  You've ignored Wikipedia's policies around accounts, WP:PAID editing and WP:COI editing, I have no interest in assisting you.  Ravensfire  (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * It certainly doesn't help when you use false article names for sources and make patently false claims. Seriously, STOP.  Ravensfire  (talk) 23:57, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Raven
Raven you said that hridayam serial un realiabile source you deleted many times what was the reason @Ravensfire 27.62.71.16 (talk) 02:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Really need a diff or link to the article to help understand.  Ravensfire  (talk) 02:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hridayam
Un believable source 🤣🤣🤣 now 2409:4073:4D8E:151F:0:0:784B:BA0D (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


 * And you still haven't given any useful information to help anyone understand what you're talking about. This clearly isn't Hridayam, so something else. If you can't tell me exactly which article this involves, kindly don't bother posting here anymore.  Ravensfire  (talk) 07:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Kanhaiyalal (actor )
I talk to Kanhaiyalal's daughter Hema Singh regularly in Delhi. Hema Singh said it was released on another platform Jio Cinema on 10 November 2023 both platforms are free live streaming, wrote the same thing and submitted it to wiki, but also deleted the user "Sid95Q", so this Need help for joint, Ashvin29 (talk) 08:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ashvin29 Wikipedia depends on published information from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. We want readers to be able to verify what's in the articles.  Casual conversations don't meet that need.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Ethirneechal
Mr raveen ethirneechal marathi and bengali version finished 2 month ago. Still wikipedia noone update this 2409:4073:4E8C:252B:0:0:78CB:4710 (talk) 05:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * WP:SOFIXIT yourself, but make sure to include a source so readers can verify what you add.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Help in improving
Sir, In the page of Bigg Boss (Hindi season 17), there's an editor with the username something Adityagoyal. I have been inputting the contestant's name Vicky as it's the correct spelling. But Mr Goyal keeps constantly changing it to Vikki according to his wish which is not the correct information. Even you may check his wife Ankita Lokhande's Wikipedia page or his Instagram handle to confirm the name.

Sir, I request you to please stop letting him add incorrect information constantly. I firmly keep hope that you'd look into the matter, sir.

Regards, Steb inSebastian. StebinSebastian (talk) 16:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @StebinSebastian please read WP:BLOCKEVADE and remember that you, the person behind the account are blocked.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:01, 4 December 2023 (UTC)