User talk:Raybest11

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Raybest11, good luck, and have fun. – S. Rich (talk) 00:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Desert Hot Springs, California has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. ''No need to inject personal frustration into the edit summary. User OvertAnalyzer has edited for over 10 years and made about 7,000 edits. IOW, he knows what he is doing. Thanks.'' – S. Rich (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Desert Hot Springs edits
Hello

My edits to your edits were made with good intentions. I know it can be frustrating when you have taken the time to make changes, then someone else thinks it should be done differently, or removes your edits entirely. When I first started editing Wikipedia, I had that happen, and I also found it frustrating. I now approach my edits differently. I now expect that others will have a different perspective, and so I engage them in discussion whenever we have a disagreement, and I don't take it personally. As I become familiar with more of the guidelines, it seems to help. I am no expert though.

There might indeed be a better way to present the information about the Desert Hot Springs hotels than using bullet points, but individual paragraphs for each hotel mentioned does not come across as encyclopedic. It presents more as a list. That is why I made it a bulleted list. You can always revert my edits, if you feel strongly that my edits did not help. You might want to consider creating Redirect pages for each hotel, so that anyone typing in the hotel name will be brought to the Economy section of the Desert Hot Springs article.

There are a lot of guidelines that have been written on how to word articles on Wikipedia, and one of the most important is to make sure the wording is neutral. Many editors will zero in on the word "famous" because it is so subjective. My recommendation is to replace the word with "notable". I live in Palm Springs, and have never heard of the hotels listed. I have heard reference to "Two Bunch Palms", but I didn't know there was a hotel by that name. I am aware Desert Hot Springs is home to a number of spa resorts, I just would not have been able to name any. But then again, just because I haven't heard of them, doesn't mean they are not famous.

Sorry my edits were a point of irritation for you. Hopefully we can work together to help improve articles related to the area we live in.OvertAnalyzer (talk) 21:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)