User talk:Raymond Cruise/Archive2007/4

CD Villanueva
The Wikipedia manual of style states that names are not to be abbreviated in article titles. Yet there are a number of Club Deportivo articles that use the CD abbreviation in the title. I found these confusing. Please, what is the justification for the abbreviation? I don't mean, "That's what all the fans call it." That is a reason for having a redirect from, for example, CD Villanueva. I mean, what is the justification for using the abbreviated name for an encyclopedia article? --Bejnar 21:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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link to Defender
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Thierry Henry
Its only a disaster because people, such as yourself, keep on adding Henry to the squad. Mattythewhite 17:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Tercera División
Over the past five years, I have seen how each Federation handles their Tercera División when there are more clubs being relegated from the Segunda División B than are being promoted to the 2ªB eventhough they could have a maximum of 22 clubs:


 * 1 Galicia relegates 3 clubs; in 2002/03, 4 were relegated when Lugo was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted.
 * 2 Asturias relegates 3 clubs; in 2002/03, 5 were relegated when Marino, Langreo & Ribasella was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted. In 2003/04, 4 were relegated when Caudal & Aviles were demoted and one club was promoted.
 * 3 Cantabria relegates 3 clubs; in 2002/03, 4 were relegated when Noja was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted.
 * 4 Euskadi relegates 3 clubs; in 2002/03 4 were relegated when Gernika was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted. In 2005/06, 6 were relegated when Durango, Alavés B, portugalete & Zalla were demoted from 2B and one club was promoted.
 * 5 Catalunya relegates 3 clubs; in 2002/03, 5 were relegated when Reus, Hospilalet & Gavà were demoted from 2B and one club was promoted. In 2003/04, 4 were relegated when Mataro & Palamos were demoted and one club was promoted.
 * 13 Murcia relegates 3 clubs; in 2003/04, 4 were relegated when Yeclano was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted.
 * 18 Castilla La Mancha relegates 3 clubs; in 2003/04, 4 were relegated when Toledo was demoted from 2B and no clubs were promoted.

In every case above, the league started with 20 clubs. I am not certain about 15 Navarra and 16 La Rioja. As a combined league in 2002/03, they had 21 clubs and relegated 4 but Peralta was demoted from 2B, so the 2003/04 season started with 21 clubs again. In 2005/06, Navarra had 19 clubs instead of the normal 18 when Peralta was demoted, and La Rioja had 17 clubs instead of 16 when Haro was demoted. Both leagues increased their relegation number by one: 4 for Navarra and 3 for La Rioja that season. Raul17 19:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Buen trabajo
Hola Raymond, buen trabajo el que llevas a cabo con todas las actualizaciones del futbol español. Yo estoy editando el RCD Mallorca, verás que he puesto muchos datos más, como todos los entrenadores que ha habido entre 1992 y la actualidad, aunque los he editado sin logearme por eso sale la IP, pero bueno, he sido yo. Estoy intentando añadir tambien los fichajes con su coste al lado.

Intentare echarte un cable, ahora que he visto que has añadido el Eivissa, hay un par de cosas que rectificaré como por ejemplo la página no es la oficial, aunque es la oficiosa. Gracias por trabajar en el futbol, es un placer colaborar contigo en lo que pueda, estamos en contacto.--Mmkkdd23 17:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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Fernando Torres
Fernando Torres will sign for Liverpool tomorrow - it even says in the link you put in your edit summary! Mattythewhite 17:53, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please explain how I am a vandal. Mattythewhite 17:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As you even admit, he is a Liverpool player tomorrow. Not today. Mattythewhite 17:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Today he is an Atlético Madrid player. Tomorrow he is a Liverpool player. Its not like his contract has been cancelled at Atlético (has it?). Mattythewhite 18:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Mattythewhite is correct. He will sign tomorrow. But for now he is not a Liverpool player, just someone who Liverpool will be signing soon (God willing). Robotforaday 18:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Spanish municipality infoboxes
I have reverted your redirects from the special Asturian and Valencian infoboxes. It's fine to migrate these over to Infobox City Spain, and you've done a good job with the ones you have modified by hand, but because the names of the parameters are different, the boxes which just use the redirected template are full of gibberish in the meantime. Since the parameter names will have to be done manually, one will have to go through each municipality and correct the parameter names and use the new template. As this will take some time, and in order to avoid ugly chaos in the meantime, I reverted the redirects. However, please continue to fix up the individual municipalities to fit the standard infobox (like you did with Gijón). When all the templates are corrected on the individual pages, the old templates can be deleted; no redirect will be necessary anymore. Rigadoun (talk) 01:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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pau casals
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David Navarro rumours
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Template:Infobox catalan municipio
I notice that you have redirected this template to Template:Infobox City Spain. However, the parameter names are not the same in the two templates, which means that articles on Catalan municipalities now have really ugly broken infoboxes. Also, a number of fair use images (coats of arms, for example) are now orphaned and at risk of deletion. Could you either revert your revision or ensure that all uses of the old template (see list here) are correctly replaced with the new one. If you wish to delete the old template, you should go through WP:TFD, which would have avoided this mess. Physchim62 (talk) 15:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, given the mess, I've reverted you myself. Physchim62 (talk) 15:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Just another question
Why did you remove Castilla's transactions? Raul17 18:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, why did you undo the Ian Harte edit? That info is from August 8th and the 3rd round of the Champions league transfer window closed on Wednesday, making the information invalid. -- A celtic supporter

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Levante Transfers
Hello Raymond! Why did you delete the Transfers-section on the Levante UD page? It would also have been nice if you had posted a comment on my page explaning your decision. You have also chosen to write your edit summary in spanish, wich maybe isn't so wise if you want people on english Wikipedia to understand your reasons. Cheers! Sebisthlm 16:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see you have reverted my Transfers in/out sub-paragraph for the second time (also this time without posting a comment on my page. It seems as if there is no given standard on whether such sections should be included or not, some pages have them and some don't. Some clubs have their own article on transfers, like Real Madrid. I, for one, think they help to clarify squad changes and help to keep track of players, who in some cases don't have an article of their own and otherwise can be hard to find. I have posted a question on Talk:WP:Football where you are welcome to participate. Sebisthlm 02:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Deportivo La Coruña
I noticed that you deleted sections of the Depor history, citing "too much history" as your reasoning. Can you explain this reasoning to me, please? I would like to understand what you mean by too much. Too detailed?

Not only that, but if you're going to do a large edit, please include citations so that everyone can know where you got your information from. As far as I know, you just made all of that information up. Your citations can be in any language (but preferrably English or Spanish), but some would be nice. I will not revert now, as you have the right to respond, of course. Feel free to post here, my talk, or the Depor talk page. My first reaction is to revert because a more detailed history is actually a good thing. Feel free to note the level of detail in FA class pages such as Arsenal F.C. Thanks, Isaiah 17:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, the more detailed history is better even if it has too many sub-paragraphs and is poorly sourced. The shorter history is not only equally poorly sourced, but has also an "unenyclopedic" feel to the language. I would vote revert and maybe post a "this article doesn't cite any sources" warning. Sebisthlm 23:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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¿Barça C in the Primera Catalana?
Do you follow Spanish football? May I suggest for you to read this article and can you translate it for me? Raul17 18:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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