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SD Rayo Cantabria
The infomation about Rayo Cantabria is wrong. You are using Racing B&nbsp's infomation. Racing B was called Rayo Cantabria until the 1990s. The club now called Rayo cantabria was founded in 1993 and was at one time the second reserve team for Racing. Raul17 (talk) 14:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I was talking about the club history. SD Rayo Cantabria was founded in 1993 and Real Racing B was founded in 1926. The league infomation should be switched around. The shield should not have have the foundation date. Cheers! Raul17 (talk) 14:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. My Spanish is very poor. Can you repeat what you stated in English? Raul17 (talk) 03:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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Deporte en San Fernando
Hola Cañailla. He visto tus colaboraciones en el deporte y me pregunto si querrías hacer algo con el deporte en La Isla... mejor artículos, crear nuevos. Si tienes algo que decir... en mi página de discusión española, ya que no colabora en la Wikipedia inglesa. --Rolafer (talk) 21:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

No, se si lo habrás leído, pero me gustaría que redactadas algunos artículos si quieres
 * Bahía Sur, por ejemplo. --Rolafer (talk) 16:23, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Defaultsorts
Hola RAYMOND, VASCO de Portugal al habla,

Lo has hecho en muchos jugadores, pero te dejo este ejemplo: en Alberto López Fernández, por favor no pongas el DEFAULTSORT como LOPEZ FERNANDEZ, ALBERTO. El jugador es conocido como ALBERTO, no como LÓPEZ, y una búsqueda por jugadores de, en este caso el Valladolid, nos llevará a la letra A, pero si queda como tú pones, entonces ALBERTO estará en la letra "L", de LÓPEZ. Lo que WP pide en los DEFAULTSORTS es que la información contenida ahí sea igual al título del artículo, o sea que si el artículo pone ALBERTO LOPEZ FERNANDEZ, y el DEFAULTSORT lo mismo, entonces queda OK, creo yo.

Espero haber quedado claro, un saludo y hasta otra.

Vasco Amaral - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 02:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hola hombre, qué tal, Vasco de nuevo. Sobre los DEFAULTSORTS, por favor lee esto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Defaultsorts). Si tienes algún problema con el Inglés, te ayudo.

Saludos, Vasco - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ?????Porqué tantos aspavientos y acoso verbal? Sólo quiero/quería ayudar...Qué solamente haces lo que crees correcto? No lo dudé ni un segundo, pero uno no lo sabe todo (ni yo ni tú), te ofrezco my ayuda (humilde pero no desechable) y basicamente me envías a freír espárragos. Y sigo pensando lo mismo: hay gente que no tiene ni idea que APOÑO se llama ANTONIO GALDEANO BENÍTEZ, por eso su defaultsort debía ser ANTONIO GALDEANO BENITEZ (ya que no puede ser APOÑO, porque no es el nombre del artículo) y quedar en letra "A", y no GALDEANO BENITEZ, ANTONIO. Si haces de otra manera, lo respecto, no lo comparto, pero con buen rollo. Y vuelvo a decirlo, si necesitas mi ayuda en lo que sea - lo dudo, visto tu reacción - no lo pienses y "llamame".

Tu mismo, hasta otra, Vasco, PORTUGAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hola compañero...Completamente de acuerdo contigo hombre. No se cambiar nombres de páginas, pero escribo para decirte que estoy 100% de tu parte, se debe de cambiar, APOÑO y demás como el. Un saludo cordial, hasta otra - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ray, lo dije en mi ultimo mensaje, a lo mejor algún error de comunicación (tengo que limar algunos flequillos en mi Español :)), claro que puedes cambiar para APOÑO, creo que es lo mejor. De paso, cambia también, si puedes, el compañero de APOÑO, CHELI, creo que está en la misma situación. Un saludo - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Buen trabajo, hombre. Yo soy de Beja, al sur de Portugal, y tú? No, no tengo ningún equipo favorito, ni siquiera en Portugal, pero me gusta mucho lo que hace el Athletic de Bilbao, el fútbol esta cada día más estropeado (equipos como el INTER, el ARSENAL me dan asco, pronto el REAL MADRID, sin RAÚL, GUTI y SALGADO estará en las mismas condiciones). Los bascos, creo yo, conseguirán, una vez más, iludir el descenso, y están en la final de copa. De que club eres? Espero que si eres del MADRID no te hayas sentido ofendido, no fue mi intención.

Hasta otra Ray, y suerte para el Sábado contra TURQUIA (por cierto, ahora en las selecciones, más de lo mismo con los nacionalizados - en Portugal ROLANDO, DECO, PEPE, y posiblemente LIEDSON, de pena). Un abrazo, Vasco - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 16:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ya he visto el artículo de APOÑO, de nuevo buen trabajo. Solamente te tengo que decir esto más sobre los Defaultsorts, como ayuda: quando pones allí un nombre, no puedes poner accento (así, APOÑO queda APONO, o JOSÉ MARI queda JOSE MARI, no sé el porque de esto, solo sé que los sorts no se activan si llevan accentos). Hasta otra hombre, Vasco - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 21:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

More DEFAULTSORTs
Thanks for cleaning up the Spanish football players DEFAULTSORTs, fixing DEFAULTSORT is mostly what I do and you did a good job. If you feel real ambitious (and are ready to stand the flames and screaming), the Brazil players are in need of a similar cleanup. I primarily do sorting on Wikipedia, but don't touch the Brazil players 'cause I can't stand the arguments. There's more than I can do elsewhere anyway.

Purely FYI, one minor point that you might not be aware of: we want a case-insensitive sort, particularly of family names, so that things like "DuBois", "duBois" and "Dubois" all end up together. Sadly, the software in Wikipedia (in the database, actually) does a case-sensitive sort. To work around that with sort keys for people, we conventionalize capitalization; capitalize all first letters and lowercase all subsequent letters, e.g. "Dubois" for all three. For the Spanish names, this means "de Whatever" and "de la Whatever" sort as "De Whatever" and "De La Whatever". I've fixed your recent changes. Studerby (talk) 21:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 17:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:MMT Estudiantes.gif}
Thank you for uploading File:MMT Estudiantes.gif. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:
 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 17:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:San Sebastián Gipuzkoa BC.jpg
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:San Sebastián Gipuzkoa BC.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the file description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. &mdash; neuro  (talk) (review) 20:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Basket CAI Zaragoza.jpg}
Thank you for uploading File:Basket CAI Zaragoza.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:
 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 21:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Basket CAI Zaragoza.jpg}
Thank you for uploading File:Basket CAI Zaragoza.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:
 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 21:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)