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GA nomination limit
Is there are any particular limit to the number of articles you can nominate to WP:GAN? The reason I asked is that I've done five GA reviews now (two pass, two fail, one currently on hold which will probably pass pending some image copyvio checks), which seem to be going well (a number of comments have been raised against each one, but I appear to have addressed them satisfactorily). But I haven't had any of my own articles reviewed yet, and I currently have three (Nord Stage, Ummagumma and Ian Gillan) sitting in the queue. There are others I'm mulling over nominating to GA status, since I've got hold of relevant books to be able to greatly expand the articles in question, and cite reliable references as I go. But I'd rather not nominate anything else until one of mine has got to the front of the queue (Nord Stage has been there for six weeks now). What could you suggest? -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   16:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, there has been a lot of debates over how much nominations a single user may have, and those arose when several users breached the 20+ border. So you can nominate as much articles as you want. I may do you a favor and pick up Nord Stage for review when i finish my current review, so you can have another GA stamp hehe. Regards. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 16:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/DVBViewer
You do realize every "keep vote" except one(DGG) was a sockpuppet ?--Hu12 (talk) 16:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but either way there was no clear consensus on the article. DGG's comments were strong, and even as sockpuppets, they had several points. Anyways, no consensus means that you can renominate the article when you want' If you want, you can renominate it when you feel ready. Regards. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 17:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And actually, after reading the report, there is no clear evidence that they are sockpuppets yet. So wait until the report is finished to make such claims, because if false, they can be considered personal attacks. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 17:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that it's necessary, but I would endorse the close and would have pointed Hahc21 Hu12 to deletion review instead of back to AfD. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Wrong name, sorry. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, you are right, i should have pointed him at deletion review, but as i closed it as no consensus, i considered that deletion review was a little pointless. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 22:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

When noticing the article on DVBViewer was nominated for deletion I decided to join the discussion, since in my opinion the application is definitely notable. I never participated in an AfD discussion before and found the atmosphere quite abrasive towards newcomers. Besides Hu12 I also found Dmitrij D. Czarkoff very biased towards deleting the article and therefore judging every source as not meeting notability requirements. All in all I found the discussion not very constructive and the final outcome of the first nomination seems to support my impression. When I realised the second nomination directly after the first I was somehow surprised since I'm not too familiar with WP policies and didn't thought something like that would be possible. Honestly I think the second nomination is quite unnecessary at this time. There are no new arguments in the discussion yet (besides sockpuppet claims, one directly offending me). Therefore I didn't participate in the discussion up to now. Can you guide me wether I should post my arguments (even if they are the same) again? Since from the impression I got so far the article could be nominated over and over again even if no reasonable discussion is taking place just to annoy everybody and to see who has greatest staying power. Patrick 1bc0 (talk) 20:20, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you also explain why you closed the discussion before 7 days had passed, as suggested in Deletion_process? Dialectric (talk) 23:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, i closed the discussion just in time, in my opinion. I saw that, as i stated above, that discussion would go nowhere as far as I read and understood. A clear keep or delete outcome would have been very difficult to achieve and relisting the article would just have pointed the same result, no consensus. That the original nominator decided to re-nominate the article is out of my reach. I thought he would understand why i closed it and wait before going back to AFD as DGG pointed in the second nomination page. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 23:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You closed it early as "no cosensus". Let me rephrase that. You "decided" to stop an active AfD discussion early preventing further input and others from contributing by claiming "no cosensus". Perhaps your unaware, but the purpose of deletion discussions to actually determine consensus. It is not your place to determine weather a "discussion would go nowhere", unless it had already went nowhere.--Hu12 (talk) 01:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I saw, the discussion had about a day with no further discussion. Also, "the purpose of deletion discussions to actually determine consensus" is not true. If that were true, then we shouldn't have the option of "no consensus". I understand your belief that the article should be deleted as failing to meet notability, but i found your reasoning for that, as well as the ones who were voting for delete, equally strong as those who voted for keeping it. If, in 7 days of discussion, and it was a very active discussion that melted down suddently, there was no clear outcome on wether to keep or delete the article, I considered that an additional 7 days were needless. As I pointed and DGG pointed, you should have also waited several days before renominating the article. As of what i've seen, you appear to have a very intense interest in getting that article deleted. I have no personal opinion on that matter, and i have no preference. For me, it's fine if it gets deleted or kept in the current AFD. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 01:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, "The intent of the deletion process is to attempt to determine consensus " is true. In all respect, it was poor judgment based in personal presumption(above), rather than actual consensus, to stop an active AfD discussion prior to its initial seven-day period as "no consensus". Perhaps a more acceptable close in a relisted debate, but the misunderstanding of that distinction did prevent further input, others from contributing and the consensus building process to conclude. On a side note I took care of your sub-page request here--Hu12 (talk) 03:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I still do not completely agree with you but let just see how the ongoing AFD ends. You may have a point, it should have been better if i relisted the discussion instead of closing it, but nothing can be done now as we have the discussion opened again. I hope this time we receive more input as i will watchlist and keep an eye on that AFD. I wont comment since i'm an outsider on that discussion and just read and analyzed what was exposed by the voters before making the decision. On the side note, thanks for handling my deletion request, i'm not an admin after all :). Regards. — ΛΧΣ 21™ 03:43, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Since Hu12 publicly and unjustifiably refers to me as a sockpuppet I want to shortly describe my point of view:

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Hey Hahc21! I've been meaning to tell you that I put up a resources pages for new and inexperienced on the WikiProject to show all the charts, certifications, and awards. Anyways, I have to apologize for not being active lately as I've been busy in real life and starting Monday I will be starting college again so I won't be as active until December. Erick (talk) 00:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh great! I will start college in mid-September, so still have time to work here hehe :) I will check the resources page :) Thanks for the advice :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 01:48, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I found this. You might remember where we talked about the Mexican singles in the 1990s from a source for Inolvidable (song), but now I find it's published in a physical magazine called Epoca: semanario de México. Oh and sometime posted Media Forest on the talk page that contains Argentina charts. I'll go see if any reliable sources mentions it. Erick (talk) 23:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Ghost of Sparta GA
Thanks again. I'll be listing God of War: Betrayal soon. It's a smaller article in comparison to the others mainly for the fact that the game is much shorter and the platform is much smaller (the game itself is often overlooked). I'm unsure if it'll pass, but let's give it a go. -- JDC808  ♫  03:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe Okay. I have plenty of time now. Regards. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 03:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, would have nominated a little sooner but got caught up in some other stuff. It's nominated. -- JDC808  ♫  05:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Just checking in. -- JDC808  ♫  05:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Will start tomorrow the next review. Have been busy editing an article i want to get to FA, and solving some personal business. Regards. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 05:02, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem. -- JDC808  ♫  05:09, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Responded. -- JDC808  ♫  22:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. Went ahead and listed God of War II. This one just had a copy-edit. -- JDC808  ♫  00:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Grabbed it. May start tonight :) I'm of good humor and somewhat happy. I've had a rough time this week. My personal life just fell off. But i'm better today :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 00:44, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Responses for God of War II. -- JDC808  ♫  01:35, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Response. P.S. I didn't realize you had responded on this discussion until now. Sorry to see that. Hope things are better. -- JDC808  ♫  03:34, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) They are way way better XD — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 03:42, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That's good :) -- JDC808  ♫  03:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

God of War III has been nominated. P.S. This is probably the largest article next to the series article. -- JDC808  ♫  03:58, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Taken. Will review this weekend :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 04:00, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome. -- JDC808  ♫  04:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Answers to Test 2 (from MathewTownsend)
1.  What are the three main steps to do when you spot vandalism? 2. ''What does the tools make? And how it was done before the tools existed?'' I didn't quite understand this question, so here's how I answered: Is this what you meant by your questions? If not, straighten me out! MathewTownsend (talk) 02:17, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Revert to last unvandalised version.
 * Warn the vandal using an appropriate warning template for the level and type of vandalism.
 * Report vandals who to continue to vandalise after receiving a final warning to WP:AIV
 * The tools give you a way to monitor a large volume of edits by showing you a list of diffs in a window so you can see if they are harmful. They show you the edits, give you options such as to revert or rollback  give you edit summary options (some do). It's possible to follow vandals on IRC, but I won't do that. IRC is not under the supervision of WMF and it seems out of control.
 * The old way was to check the diff links on recent changes and revert if vandalised. This method (without the tools) is slower and the volume that it's possible to evaluate is much less.
 * Great answers. Although, what did you not understood of that question? And, now that you've finished this test, you have to read WP:WARN. After you are done with it, come back to me. If you have any questions, please write me. Regards. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 02:23, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * well, I guess my understanding of the question was right, since you approve of the answers! ok, I'll read WP:WARN and report back to you. MathewTownsend (talk) 02:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I read WP:WARN but I'm a little confused - it seems to cover many things that aren't strictly vandalism. Should I be putting templates for all this different issues also? (I'll have to really study that page. There's a lot on it!) MathewTownsend (talk) 15:18, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Vandalism is a very broad topic. Most actions can be catalogued as vandalism, and actually all those templates exist to warn each type of behavior that results unproductive to the 'pedia. That's how I see it. More than just warning vandalism those templates can be used to warn a brad number of behaviors. Anyway, you just only focus yourself on the ones that are strictly related to vandalism, and avoid the others :) You will eventually see them in the future. Regards. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 00:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ok. Should I get a tool, like download Huggle? MathewTownsend (talk) 00:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You may. I guess you may, as you have rollback feature. I would recommend using STiki, but Huggle is good as well. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 00:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm ready for the next text! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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GA Nomination: New Day
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I've reviewed "New Day" and unfortunately there were quite a few changes. Whilst by article standards it was difficult to fault (good spelling, punctuation etc.) there are some serious content issues, structure issues and general subject matter issues. Effectively I think you've prematurely nominated the article and that uncessary information is included whilst significant information has been left out. As a result because the changes required are more than superficial i've failed the article. There's a detailed review at Talk:New Day (Alicia Keys song)/GA1. I would strongly enoucourage a re-write and then re-nomination. &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  <sup style="color:black;">[talk]  00:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you plan on doing the changes? If not I'd do them myself but I didn't wanna infringe if you want to GA it again. &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  <sup style="color:black;">[talk]  22:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but i don't know when. Well, you can make the changes if you want and then we can nominate it together. I have no problems with you editing the article :) It's not mine hehe :P — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 01:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Ricardo Arjona discography
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Just helping out
Hey Hahc21! I'm doing you a favor and looking for reviews for any Arjona albums and came across some especially for his older albums. Here's one for Quinto Piso. (NVM, you already have in the article and I didn't see it >_<) Here's a tip for getting an album FAC: Look for an album by Arjona that is either his best-selling or his most-well known work. At least three reviews should be sufficient for FAC. When I starting working for FAC, I was going to do Segundo Romance first instead of Romances, but I could only find two reviews and the coverage was minimal so that's why I did Romances instead. I'll be glad to help out of course especially for older albums. EDIT:Also found this article which contains US sales for two of Arjona's albums. Erick (talk) 05:26, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OMG Great! I will like to make all his albums to FA, but coverage has been scarse. Have you read how is Independiente (Ricardo Arjona album) now? Although it still won't reach FA status soon. The other problem may be that information on his past albums are very rare and difficult to find :( But i'll do my best :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 06:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Right now I'm browsing through English-language news outlets and from the archives, these are the English-language sources I have found, some of them are pay-per-view, but hey it's a start. I'll go look again for reviews on Independiente. The Latin Grammy nominations will be announced late this month so there's a good chance that Arjona will receive at least one nomination. BTW, I have a confession to make, there is one song by Arjona I like and that is "Acompañame A Estar Solo". Erick (talk) 06:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OOh good news :) He always gets nominated but rarely wins lol hehe xD Good, i like that one. Well, i like Adentro, which is the album that contains that song :P I will check the link u sent me, and thanks for the other one with the sales :) I had no sales for 5to Piso in the US, only 1 million worldwide :) I have another issue, the mexican certifications page is still down u.u so I can't take RA discog to FL status :( — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 06:27, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not down, but they removed certifications before 2011 for God knows why and the whole certification sites disappearing just when you were about to use them is really starting to get on my nerves. >_> Fortunately, the year-end charts still have certifications for albums up to 2005. Did the Argentine certification archives ever work or was it still confusing? Erick (talk) 06:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, those archives only had outdated certifications for two of his albums and then were somewhat useless. I'n really nervous too with the mexican certs site, it's weird. OOh, yes, the year end PDF has the certifications u.u how didn't I saw it before? Thanks! I have all those pdfs :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 16:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey i just went and nominated RA discog again at FLC: Featured list candidates/Ricardo Arjona discography/archive2. I solved the issue about the sources :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 21:24, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Well now, what do we have here? Erick (talk) 22:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, can I get a second opinion on something? I've started reviewing Blur (band) and almost immediately I've found myself in a content dispute. While I can't think of anybody who's article I've reviewed so far has agreed with everything I've said, my gut feeling is there might be a bit of tag-team ownership going on here, which gives me cause for concern. I'll carry on with the main review, but I'm worried that if the discussions so far are indicative of what's to come, I can see myself either holding it pending a second opinion, or quick-failing it due to being unstable (which, if we're arguing about what content to include, suggests it is). Can you offer any further advice? -- Ritchie333 <sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)   10:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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Please forgive me slowness - been caught up in weather-related events in RL and other distractions. Will answer the questions soon and haven't forgotten.

Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it's all okay :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 14:24, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Drive Award
You can hardly award yourself a barnstar, so I'm issuing it on behalf of the organisers. My problem is that I'm trying to get Talk:Arsenic/GA1 & Talk:Montpelier railway station/GA1 finished by Monday morning, but I stop then regardless. (I'm off to practise my Spanish, in Spain and Portugal). I'm happy to help out on the June-July GAN Review after my return. Pyrotec (talk) 10:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow hehe Yes, i can't award myself, Thanks :) Thanks for all your help :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 14:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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What to OSA and O/S mean? Probably should be spelled out when first mentioned with (OSA) and (O/S) for general reader. Thereafter use OSA and O/S. MathewTownsend (talk) 20:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey! Im a bit confused since i have some time without playing the game. I will spell out those contractions as soon as possible :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 03:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
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Everything okay (with you that is)? -- JDC808  ♫  23:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Haven't heard from you. How's it going? -- JDC808  ♫  02:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh Sorry i just started classes and begun to study. I've read a couple of other sections and found nothing worthy to note. I will finish it tonite if able to :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 02:20, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


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I don't know if you know already or if I already told but I found way to access the Mexican Airplay chart on Billboard.biz without the need to archive it. On Billboard.biz, hover the cursor to the charts tab and select Archive. Then select Album Charts Archives (I know it says albums, but..). Mexico Airplay will be one of the charts so you can search for anything on it. Additionally, the singles chart archives contains some charts that you would normally not be allowed to see such as Latin Digital Songs. This is useful for songs that have not already ranked on the Latin Songs or any of its genre charts. I recommend that you archive the charts just in case Billboard takes it off. Erick (talk) 04:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe Thanks for the information. I've checked out. Although, i don't need any info by now hehe. I will see if I find anything useful :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 04:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Great news! Archive for all Argentine certifications found! Erick (talk) 03:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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I've begun copyediting Independiente (Ricardo Arjona album) for FAC re-submission in accordance with your request, and wonder if you would like to improve the above-mentioned image by cropping a bit off the top, I have the software (if not the expertise), and am not familiar with uploading images yet :-). All the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 15:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. I will crop and upload the cropped version today. Thanks for the copyedit! I'm very very happy :) — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 15:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Not nearly done yet :-), but I should finish it tomorrow. Very nice article! All the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 02:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem :) I will crop it tomorrow night, as I'm outta home until then. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 04:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * I gave my reasons for disliking those two sources already, and pretty much per Hahnchen I think they should be replaced by commentary from leading upmarket print sources Edge and Computer Gaming World, and probably more from PC Zone and PC Gamer (the commentary currently taken from them is pretty minimal). I think there's some scope for taking a deeper amount of material from the reviews generally, rather than just 1 line from each; that said, personally I do like conciseness, so that's not essential from my point of view at least. Oh and you've spelt "fabulous" as "fabolous" from the PC Zone review (I assume it's not that way in the source).
 * Well. I agree with you here. The point is that i'm not too good in prose, and if i rewrite the section, i will damage the prose level. I'd like to have someone helping me rewriting the section so that i can remove Game Revolution and Gaming Age and expand the other, more influential and reliable reviews in the article. If you give me a hand, i'd be very glad. — <font color="#333333">ΛΧΣ <font color="#336699">21™ 16:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, cool, I can help out as time allows. Although I can't make guarantees about any improvements being FAC-quality... i.e. I might improve the prose and the FAC reviewers might still not like it enough, but I can try :) bridies (talk) 16:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Other thoughts, which I'm still mulling over: the gameplay section can probably be streamlined just a bit. Maybe less detail/fewer examples of the weapons system; and maybe condensing the couple of mentions of RPG elements into one. I'm not 100% decided on this yet; will post at the FAC when I am.
 * I'm undecided about the prose at this point, I think it's mostly good, could be better (tbh, in generally I think there are limits to how engaging one can make gameplay descriptions and such).
 * Haven't had time to read the plot section as yet. bridies (talk) 16:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I've found a PC Gamer preview you might find useful. Hope this helps. Electroguv (talk) 15:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, I guess maybe you can quote me stuff you'd like to go in the article, and I can try taking it from there. bridies (talk) 13:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, sorry for never responding to your message about the System Shock 2 FAC- I was getting married, and wasn't paying much attention to Wikipedia. I'm glad to see that it passed FAC regardless- and really quickly too! Mark Arsten is really thorough in reviewing. Anyways, feel free to ask me to look over your next article, and sorry again for not responding for this one. -- Pres N  17:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Look. Told you Arjona would receive at least one Latin Grammy nomination. The Latin Grammys nomination choices are too predictable and usually boring. Welp, be sure keep an eye out this November. Though I already knw it's Corre or En el Cielo No Hay Hospital that's getting the award. Like I said, they're too predictable. Erick (talk) 18:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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Again!--Dom497 (talk) 19:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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