User talk:Rbarends

Welcome
Hi Ralph. I understand why you might want to use the bio that's on Discogs. It's more comprehensive, a little more personal too. The article that I had put together is thin and that's because there aren't any good English sources regarding you & your music.

Well the main issue also is the one regarding copyrights. The text that you've pasted in duplicates the stuff on Discogs and we can't use copyrighted material here.

So that's the bind that we're in. Yeah, what you have put in today is a better tidbit about you, but it's copyrighted material.

Anyway, I enjoy your music, especially the Alpha Breed stuff. Dawnseeker2000  22:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey Dawnseeker. I see. Thanks for the support. And for the first article. I changed the BIO. Should be ok now. This one features nowhere but here now ;) The source is my own. I made this pic myself. I have no clue were to state this

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Conflict of interest
Hey, I've reverted your edits at Trance music, because taking a wild guess from your username you're RalphieB. Adding your own name, especially to a list of DJs that huge, it a pretty clear conflict of interest. I'm also concerned about your own article here. → ROUX   ₪  19:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * My name is Caridee Barendse, In 2001 and 2002 Ralph has been one of the influencial producers in trance music. If u read the BIO at discgos.com you will understand. His classic Ralphie B - Massive is played in the first episode of a State of Trance and his signature sound was picked up by many producers thru the years. As part of First State Ralphie introduced house music influences for the first time into the trance scene (Falling with Anita Kelsey) rated as the number 7 best track of 2006. Remixing both tiesto and Armin (2 times), Dario G, Solar Stone. Clearly he should be named in the list. Arctic Moon however is also in this list and has been not influential or whatsoever. And who is Third Element? anyway he deserves to be named in the article.


 * The article on Ralph Barendse was editted because it was full of mistakes.
 * okay, cool, I'll look up his music. That's not the point though, please click here, we have a policy about conflict-of-interest when editing. In addition, are both you and Ralph using the same account? → ROUX   ₪  16:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I am his partner. I see your point at the conflict of interest but while reading the article of trance music of which Ralph has devoted his life to and seeing artists in being mentioned that have had no influence on the scene whatsoever is the reason for adding his name in trance history page. There is no person in the scene that does not know him or his classics. I dont see a case of self promotion by adding the name and there is no mention of commercial links in the articles, its all neutral and thruthfull information.


 * To support this i can refer to other wiki articles of the biggest trance labels in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Recordings and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandit in which he IS mentioned.


 * I appreciate that wikipedia has these policies and understand without them it will be a mess. But i hope you understand where i come from adding his name to the article and hope it can be reverted.


 * Caridee Barendse ->> http://www.facebook.com/Caridee.Barendse


 * He deserves to be up there and im surpised he wasnt.
 * Wikipedia doesn't operate on the principle of 'deserved.' We require verifiable information that is found in reliable sources (click those links for information on our policies). I'll grant that the entire Trance article is a mess; I've been slowly trying to fix it but dealing with the intransigence of another editor has caused a bit of a problem. Your best bet when editing any articles dealing with your partner is to propose them on the talkpage, while being open about who you are. This allows neutral disinterested editors to make sure the information should be there, while preventing you from getting in trouble due to conflicts of interest.


 * I have to ask again: do both you and your partner use this account? If so, I need to advise you in the strongest terms to create an account for yourself; Wikipedia does not permit account sharing under any circumstances whatsoever. This has to do with our copyright licence; while Wikipedia may be freely copied, attribution (stating where the information came from) is required, and for this reason we must be able to ensure that each edit is tied to a single contributor. If either you or your partner could have made a given edit, we suddenly have big problems with attribution.


 * In addition, to sign your name please type four tildes (~) to have your username and time of your edits (to talkpages, not articles!) automatically inserted. This makes it easier to keep track of who said what and when. We also have a convention on Wikipedia that we indent comments, again to make it easier to figure out who is replying to whom. A single colon at the beginning of each paragraph indents once, two colons is twice, etc. Generally you will add one more indentation level than the comment you are responding to. I have indented your comments above; when you click edit you will see how it works. → ROUX   ₪  17:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries. I am the only one using this account. He does not use it. Im sure i gave you verifiable and reliable sources in the links i sent you. In future i will just use talk pages indeed. The trance article itself is not bad at all though i enjoyed reading it to see where we come from. Its just misses some names ;)..anyway thanks for your responses and explaining. Caridee Chris (talk) 18:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

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