User talk:Rcheeseright

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating Wikipedia's Terms of Use by engaging in undisclosed paid editing. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. User:Yunshui (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

First Unblock Request:
Note to reader In this block, I was asked to confirm that the block was not necessary. As I work for Asgardia, and I am a subject matter expert the argument the blocker is making is that I'm getting paid to do the work. The policy on this says that I need to disclose any paid work. Not that it's against the policy specifically. So, I do what was asked of me, but it was immediately declined. The cited reason that I did not address the reason clearly.Rcheeseright (talk) 11:46, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Second Unblock Request:
Note to reader Here I appealed, and made sure to clearly address the problem that the decliner raised about making sure that I raise the correct information in my profiles and using the correct tags on pages - but now the admin has decided to shift the goalpost. Although the policy doesn't specify that what I'm doing is against the rules, 331dot has decided that I need a broadly construed topic block, likely because he fears a conflict of interest, or bias. Rcheeseright (talk) 11:46, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Just noting that a different admin first suggested this idea, I merely agree with it. 331dot (talk) 11:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Understood - but the final decision - regardless of the suggestions - was yours. Both Yunshui and Dloh cier ekim  suggested this course of action, I believe. And it seems fair, given their concerns. Rcheeseright (talk) 12:00, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Yunshi throws some shade
Note to reviewing admin There are several other accounts that I have blocked today that also appear to be Asgardia employees working in concert; cf. , and. The organisation has also placed recent adverts on Upwork asking for editors to assist in pushing their drafts into mainspace. I would not recommend unblocking any of these accounts without receiving a firm commitment to avoid any edits relating to Asgardia. Yunshui 雲 水 14:46, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Note to reviewing admin This is a clear misunderstanding and certainly not a malicious issue - Everything that is being added is being done-so inline with the guidelines of Wikipedia with the exception of this single issue that I was unaware of which was to use the 'paid' tag for these edits and to update my profile. This was my mistake. None of the edits that I am making to Wikipedia, nor the pages that I have edited are disruptive or damaging to Wikipedia. I do not personally know about these other users that 雲 is referencing, so I can't speak for them.Rcheeseright (talk) 14:53, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * "I do not personally know these other users..." I assume this was the royal "we", then? Yunshui 雲 水 15:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

I made an assumption about this before I checked their user profiles. After checking their profiles, I have no knowledge of who these people are and I updated my reply accordingly. Definitely not the royal "we". Besides - it's rude to speak on behalf of other people Yunshi. Rcheeseright (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

oh, Hells no
Please read and heed WP:PAID. I don't know about any other admin, but I certainly will not unblock you without a topic ban on Asgardia and any related topic, broadly construed. There are more than 5,000,000 articles on Wikipedia. Most of them you will be able to edit without a WP:conflict of interest. If your only purpose here is to edit about Asgardia, you should try some other website. Cheers, -- Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh, Hells... wait, what?
"These Terms of Use prohibit engaging in deceptive activities, including misrepresentation of affiliation, impersonation, and fraud. As part of these obligations, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways:


 * a statement on your user page,
 * a statement on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or
 * a statement in the edit summary accompanying any paid contributions."

All I am guilty of here is not knowing about this policy - I fully accept that this is on me. However; It definitely seems that the reaction of "An indefinite lifetime ban on editing wikipedia." is far too strong of a reaction. I have already affirmed that I am aware of what I have done, and, I will follow the guidelines outlined on WP:PAID to ensure that I am fully compliant with the terms.

I'm starting to feel a little bit picked on considering that this is just a misunderstanding.Rcheeseright (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Third Unblock Request, attempting to capitulate
Note to reviewing admin I'd like to add: None of the edits that were made were disruptive, problematic or damaging to Wikipedia. All edits that were made were sourced and written in good faith with a simple desire to expand the body of knowledge with a wide range of sources being used to back up the information that was being added. I understand the principle of conflict, of course - and while I am working with Asgardia, this was not commercially driven work. It was done as a subject matter expert on Asgardia. Rcheeseright (talk) 11:00, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Fourth Unblock Request, because the last one was simply left to go stale
I, like other admins, am only willing to unblock you on the condition that you agree not to make any edits that could be construed to be related to Asgardia (including related people, for instance). Will you agree to this? GoldenRing (talk) 12:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes 100%, I agree to this condition. Rcheeseright (talk) 12:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I have unblocked you on this basis. As I have said above, I would be willing to lift the restriction after six months of editing productively in other topics.  Please do go carefully and bear our policies in mind.  I hope you have a productive wiki career.  GoldenRing (talk) 11:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your consideration in this matter. Looking forward to getting out there and helping to expand the body of knowledge! Rcheeseright (talk) 11:06, 22 March 2019 (UTC)