User talk:Realek

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Hi
hey Realek, the Greek POV pusher Khoikhoi is being requested for adminship. you can vote here (Metb82 14:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC))


 * No problem. I think we can find more people that suffered from Khoikhoi's POV pushing. (85.97.143.5 17:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

3RR
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule at Macedonians (ethnic group). Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. --Latinus 17:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ruff
Zdravo Ima takvo pravilo ako se zaigrame so postojano menuvanje na edna recenica,ti ja izbrises a drug ke ja vrati,i se taka,zatoa e napraveno toa za da ne se zaigruvaat lugeto :),inaku mozeme megusebno da si pomagame vo vrska so toa koi,sto i kako ke editirame na makedonskite statii,pa pisi da znaeme od koi oblasti imas poznavanja... POZDRAV

Hi
Hello Realek, and welcome to wikipedia. Please be aware of certain Greek users on Wikipedia, who sadly devote all their time to reverting our edits concerning Macedonia ;-) Anyway, I see that you have visited Greece on your user page and I was just wondering which parts you've been to (cause i'm from Aegean Macedonia). Anyway, take care --Macedonia 06:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

3RR violation at Macedonians (ethnic group)
Hi, you violated the three-revert rule on Macedonians (ethnic group). I have disabled your editing permissions for 24 hours. Please read our guide on dispute resolution during the time you are unable to contribute to Wikipedia. Feel free to return after your block expires, but take your differences to the talk page and please refrain from edit warring. Cheers, —Ruud 09:33, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Здраво
Здраво, навистина ме радува фактот дека има се повеќе Македонци на Wikipedia. Јас бев прилично инволвиран во уредувањето на Македонските страници во последните месеци, како и во страниците за дискусија, па затоа моментално малку одмарам. Во секој случај, ја имаш мојата полна поддршка, посебно околу процедурите кои се применуваат во различни случаи (гледам дека веќе успеале да те блокираат:)). Исто биди внимателен при дискусиите на Македонски бидејќи голем број едитори го познаваат (барем делумно)Македонскиот јазик. Поздрав, Bitola 13:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Здраво
Фала што ми кажа за тоа што го има пишано бугаринот,нема врска,нека пиши што сака,се што му лежи на душана негова .Јас многу малку време инаку наоѓам за википедијава,но како и да е. Па имам предлог ако ти се пишува статија за македонците и етничката карта на македонија во поглед од последните 100 и кусур години ,пиши. Поздрав User:Vlatkoto 18:24 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Здраво пак
Здраво, да не ги измеша брзините?:)) Ти пишев јас (Bitola), а не (Macedonia). Во секој случај, сите знаеме малку да одиме во крајности, ама како што велиш, не треба да губиме нерви во никој случај. Инаку, околу македонските страници забележувам неколку администратори кои одвреме/навреме се вклучуваат во дискусиите и уредувањето, но не многу често и најчесто не форсираат некоја од страните. Јас генерално сум задоволен од нивниот придонес, меѓутоа не очекувај премногу од нив, бидејќи тие се веќе прилично инволвирани и запознати со случувањата околу страните за нас и се трудат да вршат балансирање помеѓу двете (трите...) страни (тоа се на пример ChrisO, Jkelly и др.). Инаку, има многу механизми на Википедија, на пример, пред некое време се обидов да ги сменам именувањата на нашите страници преку барање за арбитража, меѓутоа, за жал барањето беше одбиено: Се надевам на понатамошна соработка со тебе. Bitola 19:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Macedonians
Hi! :-) Thanks for your nice words. As for your objections, I changed "Macedonians" to "Slavophones" once, in the history section when it speaks of Greek discrimination after the Balkan wars; I found "Macedonians" here potentially anachronistic and inaccurate, as it assumes that all those speaking Slavic languages in Greece in the 1920s were Macedonians, while at least a minority could be Bulgarians, especially near Thrace. As for the second objection, the problem is that most "people articles" are especially ridden with nationalisms of the worst sort, with the people's numbers in the various countries being constantly pumped to absurd quantities. But if you don't like it the way it is now we could leave a note near the Germany and Italy numbers in the table, so that the point is briefly explained in a footnote. This is my view. Ciao! :-) Aldux 12:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Map
Hi, I'll check out the map. Btw I that info must have got caught in the revert by mistake. Please re-add it if it's not back yet. --Khoikhoi 00:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I saw the map. Very interesting, thanks. I suppose you're right, old ethnic maps don't really do us much good. What we really need is a time machine to ask people on what they called themselves back then. --Khoikhoi 00:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Cheers! --Khoikhoi 01:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Защо?
Александаре, защо си ядосан? Гръцките сме твоите най-дорби приятели :-) Аз не говоря (славо) македонски. --Latinus 00:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Здраво, ако си тука, ми треба малку помош околу страницата за Битола Bitola 18:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

3RR on Macedonians (ethnic group)
You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

Since this is your second violation in several days, the block is for 36 hours. Nandesuka 21:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Това се случват те че не слушат на правилате... --Latinus 21:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Lerin/Florina
Realek, you mention in your edit comment on Bitola that the history of the names of the city of Lerin/Florina is not mentioned in that article. I think it would be a good idea to add that history. I think that every article should include all the historic names of a given place, including Ottoman Turkish. Of course, the history should be documented. I think it's important, too, to use historically accurate names for places. For example, you will notice in my edits of El Greco, that I use the name "Candia", which was the name at the time of El Greco, not "Iraklion", a name which was only revived in 1913. --Macrakis 23:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Уште едно прашање
А кој наслов (тема) моментално го дискутирате?--Bjankuloski06en 02:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

No personal attacks, please
Regarding this post, which assumes that Greece is acting in bad faith: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy: '''There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them.' Comment on content'', not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thanks, --Latinus 20:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I am acussed of personal attack for this:


 * Miskin, the only way I can source a proof of my nationality is to express it. So here you are: I'm a Macedonian! Jeez, when will you get it already, that you can't impose that. Even if he wanted to impose it, Tito couldn't do it in 1945. The same way Greece can't impose whatever they are trying to impose today. You can't change my nationality by blockades and threats of veto. --Realek 20:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)''


 * Also I'd like to point out that I find your "source" unreliable - some of the reasons I have already mentioned then. --Realek 20:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)''


 * Latinus claims that it "assumes" Greece is acting in bad faith. But the fact is that Grece imposed an illegal blockade of my country in the 90's and is openly threathening a veto for Macedonia's european integration if exsclusively Greek demands are not met - namely giving up our nationality and the name of the country. Latinus made the same insulting threats here on wikipedia (among other things for wich he was reported to WP:PAIN), so he is obviously pretending that he is surprised by me mentioning them.


 * I consider this warning to be a way to get back at me for reporting him to the WP:PAIN; Furthermore I consider a baseless warning a form of personal attack by itself! Anyway I won't remove it like Latinus does with the warnings he gets. Instead I will leave it here to serve as a proof of his behaviour. --Realek 21:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

ОК, гласав
Штотуку гласав. Фала што ме извести. :-) Поздрав, Bomac 16:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

User:172.168.89.206
Hi, thanks for asking about this user. I can't block him right now since he wasn't warned until I warned him a few minutes ago. If he continues to be a problem, warn him with the templates at Template messages/User talk namespace. (I also copy and paste those comments into my edit summaries to alert other admins; look at some of my recent User talk contributions to see what I mean.) I started off with Template:Comment2, since his edits were probably violating our policy on neutral point of view, although I don't know much about the subject matter that you're discussing in those articles, so I just took a guess. So if he keeps making similar edits, use and then  (the "last warning" template). --Idont Havaname (Talk) 01:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from Dumoren
Hello, Realek, how are you, yes a am a speaker of macedonian, are you as well?

I can speak macedonian, it's just that wiki is english?

do you understand?

see you around.

Pece Kocovski 06:11, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The IP is assigned to AOL in Amsterdam. AOL rotates IPs in a "round-robin" allocation table. What this means is that edits made from this IP cannot be traced to any individual person, even within a very short period of time. An edit from this IP may come from a long-time vandal, confused newbie, or accidentally logged-out regular editor. If some AOL user wants to be regarded as a regular community member for purposes of polls, they really should establish a regular account. Jkelly 18:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

User notice: temporary 3RR block on Republic of Macedonia
You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. The duration of the block is 24 hours. William M. Connolley 21:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Template Macedonia
I see the template Macedonia has been changed by user Kamikazi2. Maybe we have users from the ancient kingdom of Macedon!? Nevermind... Then (as usual) a greek user tried to impose what template I will use. But I come from Macedonia so I don't mind this template too. Kamikazi2 stop imposing your views on me. Please leave my page alone. --Realek 12:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Здраво, провери си меил ако сакаш.Поздрав! Bitola 14:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

'Sockpuppet or not?'
Will u please stop implying that any user or IP that edits something that u do not like is a sockpuppet? u have said that for me (and i had told u to ask for an IP check if u want!) and now u are doing it to LionKing. i am telling u again:if u want, ask an IP check. just stop provoking the users, by making the others think 'that they may be sockpuppets'. also, have u ever heard of the rule do not bite the newcomers? --Hectorian 20:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Not to mention that there have been cases of suspisions about sockpuppets, that have come true (and u perfectly know what i mean)...Regards --Hectorian 20:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I don't have an idea what you mean... Please tell me what has come true --Realek 21:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * U know the cases of users from your country who used sockpuppets, and one of the admitted it. i will not say names (i know that u know, and if u don't u can find out-see the talk page in article Bitola some time ago). also, 'surprisingly' (!!) u do not call 'sockpuppets' the new and unknown users who revert Republic of Macedonia all day today...So, i can make my own thoughts as well of who they may be... --Hectorian 22:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No I really dont know who is this person and when he/she admited it. Please enlighten me. And don't preach me about sockpuppets - there are quite a few from greek users but u don't even mention them. I'm against all of them. I singled him out because he viciously attacked Macedonian articles claiming minor edits. He was probably aware of the 3RR. Thats why it was suspicious. --Realek 23:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You?
Ти си, Корисник:Македонац? Због кога си тачно променио корисничко име? Мени је изузетно било тешко, јер сам се спријатељио у задњин пар месеци с твојим пријатељима и непријатељима, па са њиховим... итд. Па ме је заболела глава много. :-D --HolyRomanEmperor 21:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * A, OK. Ma, nema ljutnje! :) --HolyRomanEmperor 22:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

POLL: Introduction for Republic of Macedonia article
Hello! Given ongoing discussions and recent edit warring – and with the hope of resolving this issue – you might be interested in a poll currently underway to decide the rendition of the lead for the Republic of Macedonia article. Please weigh in! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 01:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Здраво соседу! Како е? Јас еве само да те поздравам. --Dipazi 01:22, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Еве сега ќе гласам --Dipazi 23:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Fyromians
Not only will I not stop referring to you as fyromians, because this is what you are, but I consider YOUR effort as a personal attack. I'm using the neutral term, and you are attacking me for that. --Avg 16:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Let me state again the reason I put the template. Your internationally recognised name is FYROM. Therefore you are FYROMians. You call yourselves Macedonians, but you are not. Macedonians are Greeks. I will not subscribe to your POV simply because you don't like how I call you. So I'm using the term fyromians, which is a neutral version. It is not an insult. And for no apparent reason, you come to my page and put a npa template. I consider this a direct and PERSONAL provocation, I did not invite your comments on that and you accuse me of something that I haven't done. So unless you remove your template, I will not remove mine. And of course I will not stop using the term fyromian unless of course you prefer the term vardarskian. Is this ok with you? I can use that. --Avg 16:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

It is offensive to me that you call yourselves Macedonians. Did I put a npa template here for that? And yes it is that offensive. I'm not offering a "bargain", I'm just saying that the cause of my npa template is your unsolicited and unreasonable npa template. As you have never asked for permission to use the offending term Macedonians, I will not ask for your permission to use the term Fyromians.--Avg 17:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Was it a good will gesture or pure irony to write "However I would gladly remove it if you stop using the term "fyromians" and introducing new insulting ones like "nonamians" and "vardarians""? I consider these words more offensive than fyromians and I'm sure you do the same. --Avg 17:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Поздрав
Здраво Реалек, како си? Јас сум корисникот кој порано беше познат како Битола. Се решив за малку промени во имиџот:) Ти како си, како да те нема деновиве. Поздрав!! MatriX 16:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Makedonija
Oh, dear; I think that Option 1 is a Macedonian POV and Option 9 a Greek POV. I just don't know for which to vote of the others. You must understand that I (personally) would vote for Option 1, but the naming dispute makes that impossible, my friend. :( --HolyRomanEmperor 22:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, are you talking about Talk:Republic of Macedonia? I'm just presenting my thoughts, I'm not trying to accomplish the impossible - convince a Macedonian that his ethnicity and language are fabricated - this is just my opinion, that's why I'm not writing it in the articles. We live in a free country, we can discuss these things. NPOV is for the articles, not the discussion pages. Pozdrav. Telex 21:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * What am I writing in the articles, what are you talking about, which articles? Telex 22:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Look, I'm pretty positive I have never written that the Macedonians are an invented nationality in any article. I only propagated this view at Talk:Republic of Macedonia, and that's hardly an article. Telex 22:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, you mean Macedonians (ethnic group), I think it was fine. It is a legitimate viewpoint and should be mentioned. Even Governor George Ryan of the State of Illinois in the USA seems to think so . This is the official Bulgarian viewpoint and a widely held one in Greece. According to the NPOV policy therefore, it should be attributed to its sources giving it the appropriate weight. I appreciate that you don't (want to) believe it, but this still is your personal opinion. I respect it, but it doesn't change the fact that you are suppressing an existing and reasonably widely held theory. After all, the Turkish objections to the Armenian Genocide are mentioned at that article. Suppressing dissenting viewpoints is not a NPOV. Telex 22:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Realek, in my opinion, you seem to be the nationalist here. On Dame Gruev you are reverting to the version of three weeks ago without even giving a hint why - that's borderline vandalism. About the views of the American Governor, yes, non Macedonians do reserve the right to have their opinions on the Macedonians and according to Wikipedia policy (not me) they ought to be in the articles. Wikipedia is not about deciding facts, it's about saying who says what. In other words, Macedonians claim their separate ethnicity wasn't invented by Tito, Bulgarians claim they were and let the reader decide. Wikipedia is not your playground, nor have you the right to arbitrate the content of articles. Your attitude certainly has a lot to say about your ability to work with others. Telex 22:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Greek Macedonians
The removal of this phrase by nationalist editors who want to monopolise the name "macedonian" in wikipedia, led to the Slavic article's recent protection. Removing such sourced content out of pure chauvinism as you did, is a poor editing behaviour which violates the NPOV policy. If you continue, I'm afraid I'll be forced to report the incident which at this point could even qualify as vandalism. Miskin 22:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You said that we're trying to invent an ethnic group. Nobody claimed that "Greek Macedonians" is an ethnic group, and no wp:rule says that strictly ethnic identities must be used to describe a territory's inhabitants. The usage of "Greek Macedonians" is sourced in Talk. I've provided historical and encyclopedic accounts, therefore your reverts are based on nothing but a chauvinist POV. Miskin 23:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Typical, laying fog... --Realek 23:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Macedonians
Hi Realek, sorry if I didn't awnser yesterday, but you seemed a bit angry with me, so I decided that letting some time pass would have helped to calm all down. Now, passing to your last message, let me thank you for having clearly stated your objections. Now I'll try to awnser your points: In conclusion remember that I only edited Telex's text, without adding new statements. In my view, the best way to awnser to those editors who say that the Macedonians were invented in 1945 is in collecting good, strong sources. For example, to make some names, Danforth's Macedonian Question or Poulton's Who are the Macedonians. As for Telex, you should remember that it's a wiki rule to not bite newbies. Telex is a very recent that is among us only since April 25, and is clearly not a nationalist, but a honest editor who is striving to be NPOV. If you believe to see bias in his editing, remember that every single editor here (me included, obviously) has his POV, and it's a pure illusion that we can kept them out of our editing. This is why wikipedia has great possibilities: because our bias are emended by the work of others. Sorry this was so long. Ciao ;-)--Aldux 14:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Tito's actions had a number of important consequences for the Macedonians. The most important was, obviously, the promotion of a distinctive Macedonian identity as a part of the multiethnic society of Yugoslavia. The process of ethnogenesis gained momentum, and a distinct national Macedonian identity was formed.
 * The first part was already there: "Tito's actions had a number of important consequences for the Macedonians. The most important was, obviously, the promotion of a distinctive Macedonian identity as a part of the multiethnic society of Yugoslavia." As for the second part, "The process of ethnogenesis gained momentum, and a distinct national Macedonian identity was formed", I admit responsability; but I only wanted to mean that the birth of the SRoM represented the completition of the formation of a Macedonian national identity, not that Macedonians were "invented" in 1945; an identity that freed itself of the ambiguities and contraddictions that were present in the fathers of Macedonian nationalism, like Misirkov and Delchev. If you want to put it better, feel free to do it.
 * 1) Greek Macedonians are actually an ethnic group
 * I think you know quite well how I feel about this, as I clearly stated it in the talk page. But sometimes compromises are necessary; and after all, it's only stated that "Greek Macedonians" live in Macedonia, not that they represent an ethnic group. And it does seem that the Greeks who live in Macedonia call themselves Macedonians,like those that live in Crete call themselves Cretans.
 * 1) Tito separated Yugoslav Macedonia from Serbia
 * I think you must have wrongly interpreted this; I simply thought it meant that Macedonia was administratively separated from Serbia, under whose control in the Kingdom of Serbia before and that of Yugoslavia after it had been
 * 1) There was no resentment towards the Bulgarian repression during the beginning of the Bulgarian occupation of the region, by removing that sentance.
 * Honestly the removal of this sentence slipped me, but I can't help noting now that the statement is unsourced. Personally, I don't know how Macs reacted to Bulgarian occupation. After all, my field is ancient, not modern Macedonia.

Marijuana Wiki
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-- nsandwich 00:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Glas
Zdravo Realek, neznam dal me se sječaš al ja sam prepravio Demography section na Macedonia članku na točniju verziju. Zamolio bih te samo za jedan glas jer mi još malo fali pa ako bi mogo glasat ovde[]. Unapred ti zahvaljujem! Luka Jačov 19:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Copy-paste page moves
Hi, Realek. All jokes aside, see How to rename (move) a page. You must not rename pages by copying the content from the old location and placing it in the new. There is a "move" button you can click to move the page with its history. Copypaste moves breach the GFDL under which Wikipedia operates, as they destroy the page histories and they are needed for copyright purposes. Telex 20:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your posting to WP:AIV
Hi,

Any User is more or less owns his own User and UserTalk pages and can decide what he wants to keep and what he wants to delete. The exceptions are good-faith vandalism warnings, you could not also keep libels, personal attacks, personal infos of other users etc. Thus, User:FunkyFly has all the rights to delete your comments from his talk page. It is not a vandalism.

It is better to keep your comments about a particular article on the talk page of the article. Other editors of this article will see the comments and can their own thoughts. And indeed nobody owns the article talk page, so there should be good reasons to delete them.

The right places for the complains about the matter more complex than simple vandalism are Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Requests for investigation

It seems that you have a content dispute over an article. The place to attract other users to have their say about the matter is WP:RfC abakharev 01:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Alex, Realek has called me and FunkyFly vandals in edit summaries . Is this allowed? When I communicated my concerns to him, his response was to call me a vandal again and challenge me to ask whether other people though it was a personal attack . In your opinion, is it? Telex 01:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

No it is not allowed. Please read WP:VAND it is clearly said that a content dispute is not a vandalism. Please re-read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA and avoid personal attacks or you may be blocked. I am giving you a formal warning:

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. abakharev 01:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Regarding removing messages. You can not remove good-faith warnings, it might be interpreted as a way to dodge blocks while continue some sort of prohibited behavior. The other messages can be removed. The policy you cited said that it is impolite to remove messages without answering it. It is also very impolite to continue posting messages if a user explicitly said he does not want to see it. The right place for the discussions about content of an article is its talk page and I strongly recommend to move it there. abakharev 01:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * User:Telex also wants me to add that the policy stated that removing messages without answering is impolite only if a reply would be appropriate or polite. I have not looked into the history of your edit war, so I cannot see if it was the case. Quite possible that user:FunkyFly was polite. But you were certainly not (by reverting the message back and especially by labeling good-faith editors vandals abakharev 01:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for proposing the Albanians in Greece article. I've started it. Telex 15:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * BTW what is your problem with minor edits? As far as I know, reverts are minor edits - when administrators use the rollback tool, it leaves an automatic edit summary of Reverted edits by X to last version by Y and automatically marks the edit as minor. Telex 15:23, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Greek?
I never claimed not to be Greek. I claimed to be an Arvanite (ie a Greek), but with cosmopolitan orientation (I think I have proved this numerous times). Telex 22:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * BTW do you think you could write an article on Florina at mkwiki - we already have Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian and Romanian (Vlach). I just added an Albanian translation and if you add yours, then we'll have an article in all languages spoken in Greece. Telex 22:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

SLAV
I have some bad and unpleasant news for you. You are a slav. I know it sucks and its not what you want to hear but its the truth. You are not part of the Ancient Macedonians, no matter what you think. Please, everything that has ever been found in any part of Makedonia has been written in Greek. Why do you think that is? ITS BECAUSE THE MAKEDONI WERE GREEK! If you have even an ounce of brain matter you can see that. I know it must bother you to have zero national identity but shit happens and thats the way it is. So instead of trying to make up history that steals from the Greeks why not just look to your own slavic history? There will never be unification of the make believe Makedonia you think once belonged to you. ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.MAKEDONIA WILL BE GREEK FROM THE BEGINING TILL THE END OF TIME NO MATTER WHAT PROPAGANDA YOU MAKE UP.

I thought you might be interested in joining WikiProject R.Macedonia :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_ROMacedonia Capricornis 01:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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