User talk:Realist2/Archive 26

King of Pop
Hey realist. I am currently doingt the format for the new zealand edition. However, i disagree with you about the details for the listings: while i do think that the lengths and duet info are not needed, i do think info should be kept about which songs are radio edits or not. this is due to i am trying to fit the track info in the song template, which requires the time for each song. since the page does not list which versions are which, what am i to do? MaJic (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

also, if you could point me toward a revision that has the details and times...that would be awesome. MaJic (talk) 23:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * and ps..here you go: User:MaJic/SandboxMaJic (talk) 23:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As long as it's neat I have no problem with you adding details on radio cuts extra. The only reason I didn't want it before was because it looked too messy and was difficult to read. However, in this table system it might be clearer. — Realist  2  23:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * no prob. just trying to figure out how i can format it to fit 2cds without having separate tables. MaJic (talk) 07:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The last time all the details of the tracklist were mentioned in the article was a long time ago. So long ago that it was when only a handful of the regional editions were announced. Thus it wouldn't be much use to you. Your best bet is so leave any unknown details blank and allow others to fill them in over time. — Realist  2  23:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ok thank you...fortunately, i am a member of mjjcommunity so they do have SOME details .MaJic (talk) 06:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Minor edits
Hi Realist! Sorry to bother you, but I thought I'd offer a little suggestion: it might be better to mark edits as minor by using the "This is a minor edit" checkbox. Typing "MINOR" in the edit summary (like this) is perfectly fine, but using the "minor" checkbox might be easier for you, as well as being helpful to other editors: some places on Wikipedia allow us to hide or otherwise differentiate minor edits from regular edits, like Special:RecentChanges and some of the edit counters. No worries if you'd rather not use the checkbox, and sorry if you're already aware of all this. Take care! -kotra (talk) 05:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I will try, it's hard to break out of a habit once you've done it hundreds of times, will try my best to remember to press minor. — Realist  2  01:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, obviously no big deal though if you forget. -kotra (talk) 17:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Madonna
The images are fine, it was just a mistake on my part. The Bookkeeper  (of the Occult)  09:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Max Liron
This user is a vandal in "Christina Aguilera Discography". Look his edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christina_Aguilera_discography&action=history —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Jackson (talk • contribs) 23:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Got a reply
OK, this is just turning into an edit war. I got a reply here, and the user also reverted me again. I don't dare revert him in fear of 3RR, but I can't talk any sense into him. YouTube as a valid reference for interpretation? he'z gotz it. I have replied to him, asking for a consensus, but I wouldn't be surprised if he replies with how stupid I am for pointing out that an image is not a valid reference for him saying that the soldiers look like Darth Vader. This is getting ridiculous, stressful, and annoying. All I want to do is rid the thing of user interpretation, but apparently it doesn't have any because he cited a photo and the music video. I think we need a mediator (I am getting really stressed). Mind filling the position? -- The Guy  complain edits 17:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Image upholder would like image deleted
I tagged an image for deletion and the upholder agrees to it's deletion. Obviously I can't delete it but can the users statement be used to justify a speedy delete? — Realist  2  15:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can tag the image at db-g7 and make a reference to the diff where the uploader agrees to deletion. I've deleted this one. Stifle (talk) 16:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers Stifle, will do that in the future. — Realist  2  16:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Help
Could you help me with this page (im new here) I created it. The Jack (AC/DC Song)It&#39;s Me :) O Yea its me.. Washington95 (talk) 20:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I Know ACDC Preforms it at all there shows and the song is pretty famouse,Thank youIt&#39;s Me :) O Yea its me.. Washington95 (talk) 21:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok so how do you customize your signature, add different colors and etc, please do reply.--rafiCHAMP (talk) 04:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok i want my username to have the kind of blue color your "realist" has and the font of it too and how bold it is, then i want yo add a little 1 on the end of it which is red just like yours, but with number 1. Reply back, if you think im allowed to do that.--&#91;&#91;User:(rafiCHAMP)&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;(rafiCHAMP)&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93; (talk) 07:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Realist 2 the signature u posted on my talk is perfect, lets continue on how this turns into my signature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafichamp (talk • contribs) 07:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks Realist 2, wiki should pay u more for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafichamp (talk • contribs) 21:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm not paid enough, it must be the recession. — Realist  2  22:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Realist 2, ive seen some users,and on there page have things like "part of michael jackson project" (this is an example) how do you join the michael jackson project plus show it on your space. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafichamp (talk • contribs) 23:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Realist, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy 2009. Cheers--jeanne (talk) 08:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Jackson
I feel the prose for "They Don't Care About Us" focuses too much on the controversy surrounding the song. Not that the coverge itself needs to be scaled back, but that the way the article is structured it draws focus primarily on it, to the point where it treats it as the primary topic of importance. In contrast, there should be more detail about the song's recording, composition, and commercial success. For a song article like this which focuses on a song which wasn't the biggest single from the album and thus doesn't get as much coverage by sources, I recommened looking at "In Bloom" and "Me, Myself and I" (just to name two song Good Articles) as templates for structure. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Womanizer (song)
Apologies, I assumed (apparently wrongly) Britney's record company, JIVE Records via britney.com was probably one of the most reliable sources you could get. UKWiki (talk) 14:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Editing genres
It would be really difficult to source what genre a band/singer is, and I've hardly ever seen anyone else doing it, so if everyone was going to do that, you couldn't really say what genre many bands or singers are, so there's not really much point in researching it, you may as well just write it in without a source. 

AND, the other genres on the No Doubt page aren't sourced either, but you didn't take them off. --Andrew t c 17:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

And the reason for that source up there is because I felt like adding a source, I just took the notion, and that was the first website I thought of. God bless you. --Andrew t c 17:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? Firstly, I don't care want is shrugged under the rug on other articles. When I watchlist an articles policies are followed. Please read WP:RS and WP:OR. Finally, why have you linked me to www.godhatesfags.com ? I hope for your sake you give a really good answer, think before you type. — Realist  2  17:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It's an interesting website. Not that I like Westboro Baptists, but still, it is highly amusing. --Andrew t c 20:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson
Why is it discouraged?

Dan56 (talk) 23:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's always been discouraged, the refs should be displayed in full view. — Realist  2  23:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

When did this happen?
I took a break and wasn't around for a bit; I noticed this when leaving a message on Balloonman's talk page. I never even knew that it had happened; I am sorry to see that it turned out the way that it did. Please let me know the next time that you are a candidate. Regards, Lazulilasher (talk) 01:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I will do (although some idiot would accuse me of canvassing), although, I don't think I'll run again, at least not until the system changes. All the best. — Realist  2  01:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Same Here,If you ever run for admin Let me knowIt&#39;s Me :) O Yea its me.. Washington95 (talk) 01:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Just a note
Not long ago I made a small linguistic change on the article Michael Jackson which you immediately reverted with the edit summary "[blatant] POV". Let this be clear - I do not have a negative opinion on the singer, and I don't feel my edit in any way conveyed any "blatant POV". While I insist that the current version may be slightly misleading, I do agree adding the word I added, "troubles", might be a oversimplification, so I'm not going to press the issue. But I do think the way you reverted the edit, labeling a single-word addition as "blatant POV", might be a little bit uncivil. No offense - I appreciate your dedicated work on the article - but perhaps there is a sort of WP:OWN mentality there, and it would be better if you could try being a little more courteous in your edit summaries. Naur (talk) 16:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No it really was a "blatant POV". Although the press might like to speculate or even lie about the Neverland issue, the truth is, no-one knows anything about the deal. Because he sells part/all (we have no idea how much of it he sold) of his stake in the property it does not necessarily mean he's bankrupt (the media have been trumping that big fat lie for a decade...bored already). It might just be that he want's nothing to do with a property that nearly killed him twice. If you felt I was being uncivil or blunt I apologize, you need to grow thicker skin though. Look above, I regularly receive crap like links to www.godhatesfags.com . Also, please, continue throwing the OWN tag around, it's easy to throw but hard to prove. — Realist  2  18:04, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello Realist2
Hello Realist2, I'm Rockwell13 and I'm sincerely sorry to don't reply sooner, but I'm really not very familiar with the talk page of wikipedia, I would like to know why do you don't let my article about the Bad album ? I give you my source and change the text in the last article, I hope you give more explanation about that for to know what can I do for that you accept my edit (sorry for my bad eglish).

Thank you for advance and sorry again for not to reply of your last comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockwell13 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied on the talk page. — Realist  2  15:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Quicksand by Lady Gaga
Hello again. You revertied my edits on Lady Gaga's page about her writing "Quicksand" because I had no reference, but Circus has no reference on it either. Neither does Fernando Garibay's page. Enanoj1111 (talk) 23:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Where did you get the piece of information from? Did you take it from another Wikipedia article that wasn't sourced? Please don't, find a source for it. If you can't find a source then it's clearly not "notable", which is the key word here. — Realist  2  00:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Block
Why?--Dindo94 (talk) 01:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The answer is on your own talk page. Youtube cannot be used as a reliable source, especially if posting it here is a violation of copyright. The sooner you get that idea, the less trouble you will have. -- Rodhull andemu  01:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Solo per mettere in chiaro (non mi rendo conto che l'inglese non è stata la vostra prima lingua), YouTube è di solito una violazione del diritto d'autore e non può essere utilizzato come una fonte affidabile qui. Di solito c'è una migliore informazione disponibile. Salute! -- Rodhull andemu  01:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Britney Spears' Circus Editing
Hi. I have NOT edited without a source. I've just written the album got certified GOLD in New Zealand, and gave the link of the official RIANZ website, and I deleted the "Gold" certification in Mexico, as the album is not officialy certified gold yet there according to AMPROFON website, which I provided as a reliable source, not an article from a local newspaper. You didn't even looked at the links provided and automatically undid my edit. So, please, next time make sure what you're doing first. Rub rb (talk) 14:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, your still causing trouble, others are reverting you too. — Realist  2  19:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Ian Halperin
Since I've reverted Hudson's edits as vandalism (they are sourced), I can no longer protect the page. You might want to ask at WP:RFPP for full protection due to edit-warring. I have fully-protected the page for a week. This should continue on the Talk page. -- Rodhull andemu  16:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello Miss,
As you are not the designated Britney Spears critic for Wikipedia, I highly suggest you create articles that are fair, impartial, and most of all - neutral. Reviews of Spears' latest studio release have not 'generally been favorable.'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.223.91 (talk) 22:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please sign in, looking at the edits made on this IP, I know who you are. — Realist  2  22:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, there are a ton of positive reviews which we have had to store on the talk page because Wikipedia says no more than 10 reviews. All those stored on the talk page happen to be positive. — Realist  2  23:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


A NobodyMy talk is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. --A NobodyMy talk 02:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Thanks for your comments and I hope you have a Merry Christmas as well. Pyrrhus16 (talk) 19:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I've watchlisted it too. Pyrrhus16 (talk) 22:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I found a few bits of information you might want to add to Blood on the Dance Floor (song), I've posted them at the article's talk page. Pyrrhus16 (talk) 13:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'd love too. I'll go and see what information I can find on it. Pyrrhus16 (talk) 19:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I added the information I have to User:Realist2/Dangerous (Michael Jackson song). All the info is from from pages 78-80 of "Michael Jackson: For the Record" by Chris Cadman & Craig Halstead (ISBN 978-0-7552026-7-6) (Publishers - Authors OnLine). Pyrrhus16 (talk) 09:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: List of greatest hits
My source is AllMusic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Jackson (talk • contribs) 15:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Raphael
Look this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_(singer)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Jackson (talk • contribs) 17:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Is true the history of Uranium Disc? It's impossible. Simone Jackson (talk) 03:24, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's unsourced so I removed it. — Realist  2  17:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

My Wikibreak
Yeah, it's a wiki-related situation. It may indeed be what you think it is, what do you think it is? Feel free to send me an e-mail at doctorhankpym@REMOVEgmail.com removing the obvious, of course. :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 03:24, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: BOTDF
um...wow. I tried..we may need a team for this...or get rid of it altogether. MaJic (talk) 07:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Circus
I have given you three sources. She has sold more than 76,000 in three weeks. She sold that amount in one week. okredgreen (talk) 04:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okredgreen (talk • contribs)

Fritzpoll strikes....
Saw your post to Iri's page, and handled it Fritzpoll (talk) 00:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I removed my message from Irid's page so that he/she doesn't have to worry about it. Cheers. — Realist  2  00:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

User:BlassFamily
Hi Stifle, the above user is causing problems with image uploads. I'm sure more of them could be deleted too. He's been blocked before but continues to upload images without sufficient rational. He mostly uploads unnecessary music video images (the kind that have 0 encyclopedic benefit) and redundant "special edition" record covers. Not sure if you want to browse through his remaining images. I'm also quite sure he's a sock puppeteer, but that's another story for another day... — Realist  2  00:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've gone through his upload log and tagged most of it for various fair use violations. Thanks. Stifle (talk) 09:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers. — Realist  2  16:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Your user talk shortcut
I noticed that you use the shortcut Wikipedia talk:R2 to point here. Cross-namespace redirects like that are generally discouraged. Can I ask you to change your signature to point directly here, and after a few weeks (to reduce broken link issues) request the redirect's deletion? Stifle (talk) 09:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know that, sorry. I copied another high profile editor, thus assumed it was OK. I'll change it, sorry. :-) — Realist  2  16:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

2009 time!

 * You too Acalamari! :) — Realist  2  23:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

"Poker Face" images
Maybe we can tag them as NFCC #8 non-compliant. I love "Poker Face". Happy New Year Realist! --Efe (talk) 11:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Tragic Kingdom
Hi, I just want you to know that I replied to your comment on Tragic Kingdom's FAC. I hope you'll reply, tell me what still needs to be done, etc. Thanks. Tez kag 72 17:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009
Well why should that be there for? It didn't happend. There's no point for that being there if she didn't perform yesterday. Circus. Enanoj1111 (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok I was but I was in a rush. I apologize. :) Enanoj1111 (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Dear Realist2,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

 Majorly  talk  21:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy new year to you as well. :) — Realist  2  00:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Honorifics
please see Talk:Honorific_titles_in_popular_music. The Bookkeeper  (of the Occult)  09:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson
Have you seen this online cartoon? It is not a WP:RS, but makes the point clearly.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it won't play. I'm sure it's replicated on youtube somewhere. — Realist  2  18:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It is on YouTube at with rather poor picture quality. -- ♦Ian Ma c  M♦  (talk to me) 19:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, hilarious. — Realist  2  19:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Why?
Dude, do you hate me that much? For God's sake, I'm not a bad guy. I'm not really sure why you're advertising and soliciting for support from admins to turn against me. Either you're seeking to have me topic banned or you're trying to drive me from the project. Why else would you be posting at Mastcell's and Rodhullandemu talk pages? Both of them are admins and I think this is basically a way for you to garner support and drive me off the project. It's wrong and I don't appreciate what you're doing to me. You appear to separate editors into friends and enemies. You've chosen to pick me as your enemy because I am a socially conservative editor. Now, I see that your buddy Benji is advertising for admin support on the Administrators' noticeboard. Like what the hell is going on? Man, have you not caused me enough grief Realist? I thought we had moved on from past conflicts and I assumed that we could at least be friends and work together. I'm sad to see I was wrong. Caden S (talk ) 20:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Caden, has it not occurred to you that I'm practically the only person (other than your mentor) saying anything nice about you right now? You have successfully managed to turn everyone against you, you even attack the people who try to praise you. — Realist  2  20:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Genre warrirors
You don't like genre warriors? So it's like that, is it? It's like that? I have only become one of late, but let me tell you this, I thought I was intolerant, but you are something else. --Andrew t c 20:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol, that was funny. — Realist  2  20:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Dnepropetrovsk maniacs
If you have not already done so, please could you add Dnepropetrovsk maniacs to your watchlist. The need for close supervision of this article cannot be stressed strongly enough. Under no circumstances should any attempt be made to link to the video in the article or on the talk page. Other graphic content could be added as the trial progresses, and Wikipedia does not want to face a barrage of complaints in the media that it has handled this issue irresponsibly. Thanks, -- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 21:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, will do. — Realist  2  21:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Kotra
I'm the one being attacked, and yet I'm the one being incivil?  Little Red Riding Hood  talk  22:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Am I supposed to respond to that? Yes you were being attacked, but that's not a get out of jail free card. — Realist  2  22:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)