User talk:Rebbing/Archives/2016/March

My disruptive behavior
Hi Rebbing sorry for my constant editing on several wikipages i know this must be annoying and i would like to improve my behaviour on wikipedia instead of getting blocked or reported. I wanted to add St Vincent to Cara Delevingnes infobox and now i know i should of done it in the proper channels like creating a talk page like this one. Please accept my apologies Dean1997 (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, Dean. Your apology is a little hard to believe: you've been repeatedly warned that your behavior at Cara Delevingne is unacceptable to no avail, yet a notice that you've been reported is enough to change your mind? That said, I hope you're telling the truth about wanting to be useful, and I wish you the best. In that spirit, I have a few specific pointers for you:


 * Your desired changes at Cara Delevingne wouldn't have been accepted even if you'd made a talk page entry. They were bad changes for the reasons repeatedly explained to you in edit summaries.
 * You're on a user's talk page—my talk page—not the article's. This is where people discuss things related specifically to me; it's not usually the place to discuss article changes, since I'm the only person guaranteed to see it.
 * On talk pages, start a new section when starting a new topic unless your comments clearly fit within an existing section. On this talk page, you left your comments in a section about a page deletion—not the right place. Also, sign your comments once, at the bottom:
 * Don't do this:
 * Don't do this:


 * The minor edit flag is to be used sparingly. If you're not sure if your edit counts as minor, or you haven't yet read WP:MINOR, leave it unchecked! Using it incorrectly makes it more likely, not less, that your edits will be reverted.
 * I noticed that some of your edits took two or three edits to get correct. Always use the preview button before submitting your changes. Rebbing  talk  14:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for your kind words,, but, out of consideration for those actually deserve it, I must respectfully decline this award. But I'm glad to hear you're making use of your new knowledge; I'm always happy to help!


 * Speaking of new skills, since we last spoke, I've gotten involved with new pages patrol and AfD; I've even learned how to nominate files for deletion (or request speedy deletion) over at Commons, since an A7 article will often come with an improperly-licensed and out-of-scope image. It's frustrating how much blatant junk gets added to Wikipedia every day: humdrum, shamelessly promotional articles about uninteresting people, and when I talk to the authors, I invariably get, "Oh, no! I'm not paid to do this; I just happen to love all things related to Company X and I had an opportunity to photograph the founder the other day." Ugh! I'm getting better at quickly disposing of it.


 * The other day, a new editor accused me of racism, ignorance, and asked me if I "thought outta [my] butt"—his words—after I'd reviewed and reverted an undeniably bad edit he'd made. I was pretty amused by that.


 * And then there's the sneaky vandalism: people who alter things like basketball players' heights enough to make them incorrect but not enough to make them stand out as such. I realize now how much work others have been doing to keep our encyclopedia from being swallowed whole by vandals, bored middle-schoolers, and paid writers. — Rebbing  talk  04:30, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi! Well, you know, the barnstars are a subjective award. For example, I found someone who had failed multiple times to get the draft that he created about a music band approved, so I spent dozens of hours improving the draft and then it was approved, and he was very grateful, but I didn't receive a barnstar because he didn't know that such things existed. Or look at everything I did for the article The Wakes to save it from deletion, yet no one even thanked me! I had never even heard of the band, yet I lost my temper in the AfD discussion and I spent tons of time saving that article. So, the barnstars are not really awarded fairly, in my opinion, at least not in many cases. Anyway, I certainly respect your decision! Congratulations on your new patrolling rights! And I totally understand what you mean when you talk about Commons. I have nominated hundreds of files for deletion there, with a success rate of around 95%, but it's a never-ending situation! We probably need at least ten times the amount of people that are currently monitoring newly uploaded files. When I began doing that, I had a tendency of getting sarcastic in my nomination rationales, but then I got wiser and politer. Besides, the nicer you are, the less witchcraft you are exposed to by those who are unhappy that their files got deleted! LOL Anyway, I can totally relate to your experiences. For example, once I nominated a picture for deletion, and the uploader wrote on my page on Commons basically saying that I was ignorant, but his file was deleted. Patience, dear fellow Wikipedian, and keep up the fantastic work! Sorry for the delayed reply. I'm totally focused on a different project, but I hope it will end soon. Best wishes, and thanks again for your kindness! Dontreader (talk) 00:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

As an inexperienced editor you may want to avoid some things
Apparently you have had your account for 7 years but made very few (less than 200) of your 1400 edits before Dec 2015. You have made over half of them in the last 30 days. You appear engaged in some rather egregious use of wiki lawyering when reverting other editors. If this account is a alternative account you should identify as such. If it is a sleeper sock you are not allowed to use multiple accounts. If you are simply inexperienced then it would be better to assume good faith on part of other editors. 172.56.13.253 (talk) 08:39, 7 March 2016 (UTC) https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Rebbing&project=en.wikipedia.org


 * I've never claimed to be an experienced editor; and I'm flattered that anyone would bother to examine my edits in such detail. You're quite right that most of my edits are recent: I've done a lot of anti-vandalism work, and, aside from relatively minor notes on form—e.g., user talk pages are not typically subject to speedy deletion—I haven't heard any complaints from respectable editors. As for your contention that I'm WikiLawyering, you may want to read that page: I often give policy rationales in my edit summaries as it's recommended by the community for somewhat obvious reasons.


 * As for you, your IP is a fairly obvious sock of:




 * Claiming, as seems to be your habit, that those who revert your trolling are themselves trolls, vandals, sock-puppets, uncivil, or insecure boys isn't going to work. I have no idea why you're obsessed with sausage, but you'll only succeed at getting your IPs range-blocked.


 * Take note: this reply is not an invitation to endless ranting. Rebbing  talk  14:16, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Haha! You go, Rebbing! --Erick Shepherd (talk) 22:24, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you! In retrospect, it was a fairly amusing exchange. Rebb  ing  23:26, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Reverts @ Katrina Pierson‎‎
Concur with your exemption to 3RR @ Katrina Pierson‎‎. Would you please add Amanda Carpenter‎ to your watchlist? I've added pending changes protection there as well, but it would not hurt to have more eyes on it; clearly a less traveled article. Kuru  (talk)


 * Thank you for pointing out Amanda Carpenter: I'm flattered and happy to help out. I gave it a good brushing while I was over there, but it still needs love—a project for another day, perhaps. Rebb  ing  05:05, 26 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've been wondering: is there a point at which it would be appropriate to mention the allegations in these women's biographies? If the scandal were to be covered extensively in reliable sources, yet without being confirmed, would that fact be something we might include? Clearly, WP:BLPGOSSIP, WP:UNDUE, and friends only extend so far. (I should point out that I'm not politically aligned with Mmes. Pierson and Carpenter—quite the opposite—but I believe very strongly in our neutrality principles.) Rebb  ing  05:25, 26 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for looking at it. There's most certainly a point where it would be notable, but as of now it all just appears to be mud-slinging based on the investigative reporting of a publication that does not have a history of concern for fact checking. The original source does not even name these women. Words cannot describe how disappointed I am with our current election cycle and the potential results, but I'd really like Wikipedia to remain "above the fray" and stick to our core principles. Seems like it's only going to get muddier. Kuru   (talk)  13:46, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine
About Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine—do we really need an article on someone who died as a toddler? potential AfD? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * We don't need anything, but that article appears meets WP:NPOL Point 1 ("Politicians . . . who have held . . . national . . . office"). It's not a deletion rationale, but I have a lot more sympathy for an article that's written, formatted, and referenced properly: you've been around "since the early days and [were] even an admin for a period," yet you're willing to create articles that look like this? You know better. Even my personal "to-do" list is better edited!


 * Anyway, like I hinted in the deletion discussion, please don't take the outcome personally. I also strongly caution you against "pointy" editing.


 * Best. Rebb  ing  16:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I wasn't meaning to be snippy. I apologise if i upset you. I myself used Johanna as an example when an article on Winston Churchill's dead toddler Marigold Churchill was sent for deletion some years back. I got told Johanna was royalty and that's why one toddler could have an article while Marigold got oblivionised. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 16:21, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * No, we're cool. In retrospect, my reply was sharper than it should have been. Sorry about that.


 * I'm inclined to agree with that deletion discussion's rationale: however silly inherited power may be, Princess Johanna was royalty, thus meeting NPOL as politician (or so I understand), whereas Miss Churchill was merely the daughter of a politician. Without the specific guideline, I'm not sure Princess Johanna would merit an article, and the one we have is pretty much a stub. So perhaps you do have a point. I'm curious: did the deleted article have anything that isn't covered in ? Rebb  ing  17:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)