User talk:RebelAt/Archive I

Archive I
I really didn't need to archive, but I figured, what the heck? That and I was tired of having the Welcome message from last year still on front. I'm allowed a little vanity, right? Right? ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 04:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The welcome
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I'm very surprised that no one welcomed you already, so here is my (belated) attempt! The question you left on the Forrest page is a valid one. In short, there should be a section of the NBF article that describes more fully Forrest's tactics, anything you can do to further this goal would be very much appreciated. At one point there was a quote in there speaking to the famous Marschal Foch teaching Forrest's deployment techniques as part of his ciriculum at a French military academy, but the pasage was removed because of a lack of citations. Having read a fair number of the available bios on NBF, the one thing that historians speak of is his speed in deploying his forces, and his relentless pursuit of the enemy once he had turned them from the field. In the article Abel Streight, there is a description of Forrest harassing Streight's Union forces for several days, pursuing the battle through several counties before finally routing Streight and taking him and a number of his survivng troops as prisoners. Thanks again, see you round the wiki! Hamster Sandwich 01:19, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the welcome, Hamster Sandwich. I believe I've been operating under the radar, due to the fact I've stuck mainly to topics that are not well known.  Hence, my lack of welcome...and maybe its because I didn't create a user page until tonight. I'm slowly learning how to be a better wikipedian and hope to make some meaningful contributions in the future. Its unfortunate that the quote from Foch was not cited, as it certainly would have reinforced Forrest's reputation and helped to answer my question.  Thanks again for the welcome! RebelAt 01:34, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Fair use of MSSU image
Yes, MSSU still holds copyright because it is a derivative work of the copyrighted image. Thus, I retagged the image as logo and removed it from the userbox. I've done similar with Image:Uark2.jpg and Template:User UARK now as well. --Durin 17:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update on the other two, I'll make changes accordingly.RebelAt 17:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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your comment
Hiya, I see your comment on my thought on the sino-japanese war and I think you got a point. But I want to stress the fact that China was a terribly weak country compared to France and other allied nation. I think one of the concept that's hard for most westerners to grasp is that China was extremely weak and backwards, not only in military hardware, but also military doctrine, national infrastructure, economy, education level, and other aspects essential for a modern war. I'd say the disparity between China and Japan was at least many times greater than between Poland and Germany and at least ten times between France and Germany. Even though Poland was weak, it still had some armor and artillery, and a very well educated officer corps, since all university students had to serve as officers too. Not to mention that these countries were western countries, with a strong tradition of scientific, military, and other advancements far superior to China's. China was weak and fragmented. Chiang not only had to fight the communists, but also other regional militarists that were often forgotten because of the predominant focus on KMT-CCP conflicts. The majority of the its people were semi-literate peasants with a life expectancy of around forty to fifty years. Most soldiers had never seen a tank or an airplane in their life until they encountered them on the battlefield. Very few even knew the germ theory and other basic scientific concepts. On the other hand, Japan had been westernized since the mid-19th century and had developed their own indigenous industries. Japan also had a robust military system since then, while China did not begin conscription until 1936, and pretty much had to import all of its military hardware, which mostly consisted of small calibur weapons and maybe a few regiments worth of artillery and like 100 armored cars. So when I see France giving up in six weeks, with the majority of their men becoming pows, and without more determined resistance and Paris razed to the ground, I am really amazed at China's tenacity. And I agree with you that the idea of geographical protection, but even the 1937 Battle of Shanghai, concentrated around one easily accessible city, lasted three full months. BlueShirts 19:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello, I don't think Poland fought with cavalry. There's this section that talks about this. And I think the battlefield in North China Plain wasn't bigger than either France and Poland. I agree that geography had something to do with the front being stabilized around 39-41, but that also means that the resistance lasted longer than any European continental allies did. Yeah I think it's really terrible that many hold the preconception that we (ROC) mostly just sat there and let others factors, like geography and later foreign allies, do the work of resisting Japan. I forgot where I read it, but I think it was from an article by Lloyd E. Eastman, who wrote that perhaps history would've been kinder to us had we won the Chinese Civil War. BlueShirts  19:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice Pic

 * Saw the update to Omar Bradley and wanted to let you know that Image:Bradleyheadstone.jpg is a good picture and nice add to the article. Somehow the dates didn't seem to jive though.  Caption said you took it in 2005, which seems legit, since his second wife died in 2004; but the photo info at the bottom says 2002.  Prolly just WP reading the dates incorrectly. :) Either way, nice work! &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 20:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * MrDolomite, thanks for the compliment! And yes, the dates definitely don't jive!  I can only figure that when I took my walk through Arlington, I had neglected to see if the date/time on my camera had been set correctly.  I had and still have a bad habit of letting its battery die completely and sometimes I made the effort to fix the date, sometimes I didn't.  I have a whole directory of Arlington pictures, which I'll probably peruse for more usable images...so, expect to see some more time travel. ;)  (Sure, I could use another program to wipe out all the meta data, but unless that'd be preferred, I'm too darn lazy to take that step!)  Do let me know if it'd make things easier, and I've noticed your own edits, thanks for all the hard work!  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  02:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Virginia
Was also thinking of doing a project -- I was surprised to find there wasn't one-- if you need help just let me know-- I have experience in creating the project talk templates that have the nifty class and importance ratings, etc. I started WP:FIREFLY and jump-started and re-energized the ailing WP:WPBIO project. plange 15:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll be more than happy to take you up on your offer. I'm somewhat the reverse for experience in templates and projects, but felt that it was imperative that Virginia receive a project (hence the creation).  Good to have a Browncoat on the team!  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  15:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, you're a browncoat too? Small world! plange 15:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, and about the project, won't be able to help until later on tonight....Will be in touch then! plange 15:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Browncoat? More like humble aspirant (Not hardcore enough!), but I thoroughly enjoy Firefly. My working times until this Saturday (then gone from one to two weeks) are mostly in the morning and early afternoon.  I'm not sure how much state projects differ in appearance or setup from non-state projects, but here's a list of the state projects currently running for guidance: WikiProject U.S. states/List of state WikiProjects.  Thanks again for joining up! ~ (The Rebel At) ~  15:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool, so you don't mind if I "go to town" setting some things up? plange 16:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Help yourself! If its bad, I'll just claim I was forced to relent at gunpoint! ~ (The Rebel At) ~  19:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC) ;)
 * LOL! No, if it's bad please feel free to revert it or stomp your foot and let me know ;-) plange 20:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've got it started, but nowhere near done yet, but I've gotta go home :-) Here's a sneak peek plange 06:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Very well done! If I can add anything without messing up the design, I will. After this morning/afternoon, I'll be gone until at least a week from Sunday, so if I miss you, thanks for all the work! ~ (The Rebel At) ~  11:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I spent too much time on a prototype user box, which can be found Here. I think Stonewall should be moved on top and the blue down...but thats just me being a perfectionist (not that this is even a final version).  I'll attempt to develope a Portal in my sandbox, as well. ~ (The Rebel At) ~  15:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool, let me know if you finish the userbox and I'll add that.... I've made a link to a to-do page in the sidebar on the project if you want to populate that! See WP:WPBIO for how I've organized it there (for ideas). I'm going to try and hammer out the rest. I will wait until you get back so you can have a chance to give input/finalize things on the Project before I let WP know we've started it.... Have fun in Abingdon!plange 15:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * To do feature looks good, and I may well start into populating it. I switched out the portions of the WPVA.png image for the user box, which, if you think looks good enough, you can go ahead and put it on the page.  Thanks again for the great work! ~ (The Rebel At) ~  15:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You're back! Let me know what you think on what I've done at WikiProject Virginia - I've got a project banner ready to go for tagging articles and I have an AWS account that I can use to auto-tag articles... plange 20:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I am...almost! I'll be leaving today or tomorrow for Southwest Virginia for the rest of the week or so.  So hopefully I'll capture some good photos and what not while I'm down there.  As for all that work on the WikiProject Virginia...wow!  You've done an incredible job!  I need to create some kind of special Virginia barnstar for ya! (will do!) Thank you so much for your work, its certainly something I could never hope to accomplish on such a scale and skill level!  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  15:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool and thank you so much for the award, I love it! So is it okay for me to mark it as active on the WikiProjects page and start tagging articles? plange 16:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think its good to make it active. I've just to fight these feelings of not being an adequate helper! ~ (The Rebel At) ~  16:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No worries, I love doing this kind of stuff! You'll be back soon and in the saddle! plange 17:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Freedom Park
Thank you for updating the information on the Berlin Wall segments at Freedom Park. I had driven by there about two weeks ago at night and noticed the usual display seemed to have been dismantled. However, based on your more current photo, I think I have a better idea of what's going on there. Thanks again. -johnkellystyle 23:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. It doesn't help that the sign for the Berlin Wall portion is missing two letters.  I have a picture that shows the whole exhibit, but felt it wasn't suited for the article. Glad to be of help. ~ (The Rebel At) ~  16:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Back in the saddle?
Let me know when you've returned and I can show you some of the things I set up, like Welcoming new members and a newsletter, etc... Hope you had a great time in Abingdon! plange 23:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I just got in about thirty minutes ago, so feel free to unleash it on me. Thanks in advance for the great work! Oh, and yes, Abingdon was a blast! (this is where I refrain from glibbering over the family history I got) ~ (The Rebel At) ~  01:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! What's your family name? I'm descended from the Johnston, Campbell, Floyd, Preston and Trigg families... Oh, on the project stuff, I've made a template to welcome new members, so if you go to outreach you can copy it from there and then paste into the new members' talk page. On the Outreach page too, you'll see the template for a newsletter. We don't have to do one, but I created the "stub" in case you did want to do one...plange 02:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks good. A monthly newsletter may well be a fun way to run people off with delirious rantings...er, inform the masses. Yes. Thats it.  As for families, to name a few, Widener, Bishop, (basically, if there's an old family in Widener's Valley), Wampler, Brown (but only arrived in Washington Co. in late 19th, they were next door in Smyth..er..its a long story). ~ (The Rebel At) ~  02:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Widener sounds familiar to me-- were they involved with Eliott Roosevelt when he came to Abingdon to detox? plange 02:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe, though apparently Theodore Roosevelt knew a "Squire Bill" Widener and quoted him in his autobiography. Though, in Widener's Valley and that part of the county, you probably can't spit without hitting someone who is a Widener or has one in their tree!  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  02:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Virginia September 2006 Newsletter
The September 2006 issue of the Virginia WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 02:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Dixie Mission
Hi. Patrolling the new pages, I see that you're creating numerous stubs for the Dixie Mission participants. I'd like to suggest two things: first adding references would be really nice and secondly it might make more sense to have an article Dixie Mission participants with all these short biographical notes merged into it. Cheers. Pascal.Tesson 12:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Pascal. When you mean references, you mean cite a source for their involvement with the mission?  As for the article suggestion, that does sound like a good idea.  Though,wouldn't such an article ultimately become too big, once more biographical data is added to the men?  What would be the limits on how much information should be placed on a member of the Dixie Mission before that information should simply be entirely on their article page?  Them the questions! Thanks for taking interest, however, I look forward to your response!  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  12:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi RebelAt, glad you thought my suggestion about the red links was useful. Looks like someone else has ideas about how they should be as well.  I guess it depends how much of a stub you write for each, although if they're only famous because of the Dixie Mission, combining in one article is probably a good idea.  I would have thought the biography wikiproject could tell you how much they like for a good stub/article. Terri G 18:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * As I noted below, I'm leaning towards an article for the participants. That said, the trouble is that some will have enough information about them to justify a seperate article, while others will not.  For example, Koji Ariyoshi has a reasonable long article, and there some others in the stub creations today who could probably have just as long.  It is true, many are notable for their inclusion in the Dixie Mission, but it was one heck of an important mission that amazingly has been lost in the history books.  As part of the mission, the men involved were among the first Americans in official capacity to even visit Yan'an for years.  Pretty neat stuff went on with them folks. ;)   ~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

mission in China
Perhaps it would be better to have one larger page about the mission, with all the names put here and the micro-articles being deleted or turned into redirect. Stubs like Walter Gress do not have much of value. TIA Pavel Vozenilek 14:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * As noted above, it'd have to be a page about the participants, not the mission in general. The mission page at Dixie Mission is already long enough. I'm tempted to adopt the above, however.  Unfortunately, I just created the stubs, so I haven't had a chance to add more significant information to the participants.  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Virginia Newsletter October 2006
The October 2006 issue of the Virginia WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 03:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)