User talk:Redtigerxyz/Archive 21

Eight components of Ayurveda
Can you verify edits like these -? I don't think they are adequate. You should also see Talk:Ayurveda. Bladesmulti (talk) 04:29, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Bladesmulti, Ayurveda is out of my knowledge base. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:09, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Variations of Ramayana
Nepal is not part of India! The information about the Nepalese version is included in the Variations of the Ramayana outside of India section! For you to call it vandalism is outrageous! (110.148.115.165 (talk) 07:01, 7 February 2015 (UTC))
 * 110.148.115.165, classifies all versions of Ramayana from the Indian subcontinent together. The Nepali version was added in "Regional versions" as such. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 07:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trijata
The article Trijata you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Trijata for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of AmritasyaPutra -- AmritasyaPutra (talk) 11:22, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Triple Crown



 * Hey Hahc, Thanks for "Imperial Triple Crown Jewels"; but I had applied for an upgrade to the next level, "Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown". Please let me know if there was any issue with the nomination I need to address. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 11:04, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The result of awarding a Triple Crown at 3 am. I pasted the wrong one here. Fixed now, and thanks for letting me know.  → Call me  Hahc  21  15:43, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot Hahc . Admire your will to work for Wikipedia at 3 am. :) -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 05:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Chandralekha FAC
Hi, thank you for those comments on Chandralekha. Some of your comments seem to have been resolved, so please remember to strike them out on the FAC page. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Diwali
Why did you remove references to Jainism?

Why did you remove reference to Harivamshapurana of Jinasena? It is the oldest known direct reference to Diwali?Malaiya (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Malaiya, the Harivamshapurana claim was based on a WP:PRIMARY reference. The claim also contradicts referenced text in the article that state that Diwali was mentioned earlier in 7th century Sanskrit play. Diwali (Jainism) deals with Jain celebrations. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/166786/Diwali Most encyclopedias define it as a Hindu festival. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Dear Redtigerxyz,


 * Removing references to Jainism and Sikhism and claiming it exclusively, presents a narrow perspective.


 * It minimizes the significance of Diwali.
 * It denies the shared traditions of the dharmic religions.

Note that
 * the very earliest mention to the festival of lights on the amavasya of Kartika (Purnimanta calendar of North India, Maharashtra follows Amanta)is found in Jain tradition, in Kalpasutra of Bhadrabahu.
 * the earliest mention of term Diwali is in Harivamshapurana as Dipali (Dipalikaya). The drama you refer to is Nagananda of Harshavardhana (incidentally a Buddhist text) that refers to some festival "Dipa Pratipada" There are no details and no dates. No month is given but presumably the tithi is pratipada.

I see that you can read and write Sanskrit. Thus you cannot claim not to understand Sanskrit texts. I can provide other references. What do you need?

Incidentally what do you mean by "it is primarily a Hindu festival"?

Malaiya (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The Diwali article is about the Hindu festival. There are sub articles about Jain (Diwali (Jainism)) and Sikh (Bandi Chhor Divas). Most encyclopedias Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions, Britannica, Religions of the World: A Comprehensive Encyclopedia of Beliefs and Practices, Religious Celebrations: An Encyclopedia of Holidays, Festivals ..., Oxford dictionary, Random House Dictionary, Collins English Dictionary define Diwali as a "Hindu festival". The simultaneous celebrations in the Diwali period by Jains and Sikhs are covered later in the encyclopedia (OR not covered at all). Wikipedia follows the former in line with other RS. The claims about Bhadrabahu and Harivamshapurana need to be backed by secondary RS, which they were not when they were added in the article. Redtigerxyz Talk 13:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Question on Padma Purana & Skanda Purana:

The article mentions: "The festival is mentioned in the Padma Purana (c. 701–1200 CE), the Skanda Purana (c. 701–1200 CE), and other Sanskrit Hindu scriptures". Do you happen to know where in Padma Purana and Skanda Purana and what other Sanskrit Hindu scriptures?

Padma Purana has detailed discussion on Kartika Vrata in the Uttarakanda appendix, but I did not see any mention of Diwali. You are probably familiar with Skanda Purana with its connection with western India (often cited in context of NagaraKhanda and SahyadriKhanda). The term Dipavali is there but it has nothing to do with a festival.

Article states: "Many see Diwali honouring the return of the god Rama, his wife Sita and his brother Lakshmana from exile of fourteen (14) years, as told in the ancient Hindu epic Ramayana" There is no mention in either Valmiki's Ramayana or Tulsidas's Ramacharitamanas. Since searchable texts for both are available you can check that instantly.

Pratipada is not amavasya.

Incidentally I should mention that I created articles Hindu Temple Society of North America, on the first Hindu temple in USA, Jai Jagdish Hare and its author Shardha Ram Phillauri, among others. Malaiya (talk) 00:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Indian Dance on VA
Hi Redtigerxyz, I've always respected your contributions to Indian related topics on Vital articles/Expanded. It's come to my attention that there are no Indian dance forms on the list. I think Indian classical dance or Bharata Natyam will be a good addition to the list. The other dances are specific and not a category so Bharata Natyam is probably better. What do you think? Thank you also for your general work on India and Hinduism and bringing many articles to GA and FA status. Gizza (t)(c) 22:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Gizza, IMO, Indian classical dance may be a good addition. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 12:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Review
If you don't mind, would you like to review Chandramukhi? and here is the page - WP:GANFILM:) Ssven2 (talk) 12:03, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I generally avoid reviewing Indian articles in GAN. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, Thx anyway. Ssven2 (talk) 15:43, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello
Hi! How are you doing? Just passing by...--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Dwaipayan, Well. Thanks. A little busy in real life. What are you currently working on> -- Redtigerxyz Talk 11:30, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Suppressing Bangla calendar
Hi, was it discussed anywhere before you merged the months of the Bangla calendar into the Hindu calendar? I strongly disagree with this, and have so far reverted Asharh and added a needed citation to it. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:46, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sminthopsis84: As per discussion on Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics, Bengali calendar is a regional variation of Hindu calendar. The name and traditions of the month may vary, but the time period and the days (including major festivals and holy days) tally with the main Hindu calendar. There may be additional regional festivals like Jagadhatri Pujo, which are mainly exclusive to the Bengali culture; but these can be noted in the Hindu calendar month too. The Tamil calendar also follows the same convention. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:03, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the pointer, this is not just an India-related topic and should have been discussed with Wikiproject Bangladesh. A revised version of the calendar is the official calendar there. It is likely to cause considerable friction to have the calendar of what is in effect a Muslim country labeled as the Hindu calendar. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sminthopsis84, the problem is the Bengali version of the Hindu calendar (Shaka) used by Bengali Hindus and the revised Bengali calendar (Hijri + Hindu) use the same names (Bengali forms of the Sanskrit names). So Ashadha, the Hindu month is called Asharh. How do you say this on the Ashadha article? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry, I overreacted to the statement in the discussion "There are various regional variations of the Hindu calendar: Indian national calendar, Bengali calendar, Nepali calendar etc.", when the heading was about merging the month names only. Yes, the month names are the same, with the different spelling reflecting the dialect variation between Sanskrit, Hindi, Bangla, etc., though I don't know any of the languages. I'll look at this some more. What do you think of making a separate page about the revised Bengali calendar, perhaps called Bangabda, the name used by Banglapedia? Perhaps that would make it easier to refer to the various calendars, and hence easier to combine the Asharh and Aashaadha pages into one without leading off with that problematic "is a month of the Hindu calendar". Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:51, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sminthopsis84, I suggested the splitting the article in Talk:Bengali_calendar. The neutrality of Banglapedia is questionable, which says that it started in 1594 and completely disregarding the Shashanka (a Hindu king who unified Bengal) connection. has both origin theories: Shashanka and Hijri, which I plan to put when I get time. (If you have time, please add) Banglapedia surprisingly uses the Sanskrit names in the article: Chaitra, Bhadra, Ashadh instead of its Bengali pronunciations Chaitro, Bhadro, Asharh. Bangabda is a generic name for the Bengali calendar; not only the Bangladeshi version. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 07:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Let me make clear to everyone here that the "Bangla calendar" or the "Bengali calendar" IS NOT a religious calendar. I hope this solvers all the issues. বব২৬ (talk) 09:34, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What might be confusing Redtigerxyz a lot is that, Bengali calendar (formal name: Bongabdo) share same name of months and are used in similar region as of the Hindu calendar. What he is probably ignoring is the fact that, the calendar is not derived from or related to Hindu calendar. There are many regional versions of Hindu calendar, and they can very well be discussed in same article. Bengali months cannot be in the same article. The argument that names are Sanskrit, is equally invalid basis; most words in Bengali are either adopted or derived from Sanskrit (or more accurately Apabhramsa). Chill. –  nafSadh did say 00:09, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear nafSadh, the reference says that they are Sanskrit month names and it is a solar calendar, based on the Surya Siddhanta. Nowhere am I telling you to add the word Hindu. I hope that the article is accurate and based on WP:RS, not WP:OR. I trust you can fulfil this and as such I am refraining editing the article.  Redtigerxyz  Talk 13:49, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The article is thoroughly messed, it was messy and it is still. I'd try to improve. –  nafSadh did say 16:06, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Devasena
The article Devasena you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Devasena for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ChrisGualtieri -- ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Autobiography of a Yogi
Before editing on this page it is highly recommended to see the archived long discussion and resolution about a year ago. Red Rose 13 (talk) 06:58, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Red Rose 13 edits exclusively Yogananda related pages.VictoriaGraysonTalk 07:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Please let me know why were changes to Bhrama reverted
Hi, I noticed that you reverted my changes to Bhrama that his worshipers are known as belonging to the Kalpawasi Sampradaya. Please let me know the reason so that they can be addressed. Thanks. Vdhillon (talk) 10:45, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Vdhillon, can you provide WP:RS for this claim. Brahma is generally not worshipped in Hinduism. I have read about a Sampradaya dedicated to him. Kalpawasi are generally related to the Kumbha Mela. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 10:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

please refer to 2nd para, 3rd line, http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20130731/himplus.htm#10

yes, all sampradaya turn up at kumbh mela, kalpwasi are one of them, I am currently working on a wikiarticle on Akhara (still needs more work, loads of dead/red links, which I will create one by one, hence, the need to insert in wikiarticle on Bharma also, you are welcome to help), in future I will insert the references to backup the claim so others do not revert my edits. I am proceeding to reapply changes to Brahma with ref. Thanks Vdhillon (talk) 11:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sena Nhavi
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Tag & Assess 2014
Hi, Just a gentle reminder that you signed up for the drive but your assessments are yet to begin. If the Tag & Assess script doesn't work, let us all assess manually. Even 5 assessments each day by each editor will help us reduce the backlog quite fast. AshLin (talk) 07:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry to see you go! Even a very small number of assessments done regularly or even one session's worth would have made a difference, AshLin (talk) 13:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * AshLin, while I have quit the official Tag & Assess as it is too cumbersome to manually update the tallies (I don't keep track of article I review), I continue to review articles, but updating on a page is not something I look forward to. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Minor wording
You had written that the are a true sequential, under Hindu views on evolution, it is unclear what you actually meant and I just observed today. Can you rephrase it? Bladesmulti (talk) 01:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sheikh Muhammad
Mike V •  Talk  06:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK review
Dear Redtiger, how are you? I just need some help from you. Can you please review this DYK? I'm not comfortable at how the current reviewer is judging the article. The issues they are raising are generally asked at FLC review not at DYK. I may improve it further to make it a FL in the near future. But now, I think it passes the criteria. And BTW I don't have good knowledge about Indian films and actors but in this case I just gave it a shot, I will appreciate any help you can do. Thanks!  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  18:44, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Jim Cartar, since some one has already started the review in detail. Sorry. I can not review it. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 19:28, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought you were the original reviewer. As edit summary of your comment there says "doing". So, I thought you might be interested to complete it. Anyway, thanks.  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  05:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Redtiger, the reviewer asked for another review, I will be glad if you can review it now. Thanks!  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  00:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ovi (poetry)
The DYK project (nominate) 23:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

GA Review?
Greetings. As an experienced and well-known editor among the Indic pages, I was wondering if you would be willing to do a GA review on Bharatiya Janata Party. I nominated it a while back, but I suspect that even those editors who know enough about the subject are steering clear of a page seen as controversial. If you haven't the time or inclination, I understand. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:30, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Vanamonde93, IMO, it would be best if a non-Indian - who possibly knows nothing about the BJP - reviews it. IMO, that person can better judge the neutrality. If I get time, I will leave an unofficial review on the talk. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 11:38, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. As a point of interest, I think most major contributors to that page aren't Indian. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks mate. Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Assessment and Peer review request for Khwaja Muhammad Latif Ansari
I would greatly appreciate it if you would be able to take time to either assess or review this article:
 * Khwaja Muhammad Latif Ansari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuparsk (talk • contribs) 15:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Merry
To you and yours FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 21:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Damaji
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DYK for Narahari Sonar
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Uttanka
Hi! You may like to give your expert inputs for this User:Nvvchar/sandbox/Uttanka. You may find some images to add as I could not find any wikicommons. Thanks.-- Nvvchar . 03:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Nvvchar, nice to see you back on wikipedia after your stint at wikiquote. I have done with my edits. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Redtiger. I have added some more text on Uttanka's role in Sarpa Satra. Can you suggest a suitable hook for DYK?-- Nvvchar . 13:58, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Nvvchar, something about Uttanka's clouds? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:20, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you move the article to main space?-- Nvvchar . 14:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Nvvchar, moved to Uttanka. Can you please nominate. Here is a QPQ. Template:Did you know nominations/California Proposition 47 (2014)-- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:49, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Nominated here Template:Did you know nominations/Uttanka. However, there is a problem in fixing the image. Please see.-- Nvvchar . 01:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK review request
Dear Redtiger, happy new year! Since you are an expert in India related articles so I was wondering if you can review this DYK nomination. Thank you. Have a nice day!  Jim Car ter  09:03, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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Shaktiism
This article that you contributed to, doesn't mention animal sacrifice performed at many Kali or Durga temples throughout India at all. Must say that is a serious ommision.Jonathansammy (talk) 19:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Banai (goddess)
Harrias talk 12:01, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Redtigerxyz!


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Upanishad DYK
Namaskar dear sir, the initiatives you have taken to work on Upanishad-related articles is fantastic one. Unfortunate enough, I am too much busy with my new work (joined 1 Jan, contract still not signed), WP:RMI (see its talk too, and please post comment, if any), but still I'll work on these article. Please inform me about your newest articles' drafts at my talk page I somehow miss your discussions somehow. I may help in building a document store too. -- Tito ☸ Dutta 08:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have mostly completed the first in the series Brahma Upanishad. However I have not been able to locate in useful references to Brahma Vidya Upanishad. You may like to suggest a few useful references. Thanks.-- Nvvchar . 13:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Nvvchar added in project page.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Jainism
Sorry, I didn't knew, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProudJain (talk • contribs) 13:46, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Help Needed
Sir, if a temple is found on the Chandragiri Hill, then how can I write it in a different way. I request please add this important news (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/451397/jain-temple-ganga-period-excavated.html) on this page.

DYK for Vatapi Ganapatim
The DYK project (nominate) 20:58, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Time for your RFA
Hello, I am interested to see you as an admin. Probably I'll not nom your RFA, I'll ask Mr. Strad or Kudpung to nom your RFA. I may do a co-nom. Regards. Tito Dutta (talk) 10:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Tito Dutta, Thanks for the offer. But No, I don't think I am cut for the job. I like to create content more. :) Congrats again. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 10:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd second User:Tito Dutta here. You should be given the mop. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:01, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Sarasvati river
You're reverting too soon; you also undid my ce of the last subsection, and you didn't gibe an edit-summary. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  16:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Response to your message at my talkpage: Use ; it adds a message on top. NB: I've posted some explanations at the talkpage. Please check-out the last subsection; there's a doublure. Best regards,  Joshua Jonathan  - Let's talk!  16:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK Review
Please review this DYK. Thanks!  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  12:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry. This will be too much of a QPQ since my article is used as the QPQ. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Possible copyvio?
What do you think of this? File:Amitabhbachchanji signature.jpg? Given the users past penchant for Copyvios? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Palli Kondeswarar Temple, Surutapalli
Palli Kondeswarar Temple, Surutapalli, I have actually added copy vio notice and then removed. Doed this article has any such? or I was wrong?--Vin09 (talk) 07:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Vin09, can you give the url you feel the article has copied from. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 07:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually I've checked it here.--Vin09 (talk) 07:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Vin09, Earwig's Copyvio Detector gives false alerts too. It can not differentiate in wikipedia mirrors or copy paste from wikpedia. I checked the first 4 links (Confidence > 85%, rest was negligible). The first two are clearly copy-paste from wikipedia. That left http://gotirupati.com/temples-near-by-tirupati/ and http://tirupathitourism.com/history/, but it is difficult to ascertain who has copied from whom. I checked Wayback machine, but no luck.
 * The disputed text was added by User:Ranga2601 (talk | contribs) at 08:52, 8 June 2012, who has just 3 edits. I checked his edits to Hindu temple, which seem to be original. The editor also added references to the content.
 * http://gotirupati.com/temples-near-by-tirupati/: "History" matches wikipedia. The first para I googled and found was copied http://pallikondeswarar.com/about.html. So, the site has most probably copied from Wikipedia or some other source the "History" para.
 * http://tirupathitourism.com/history/: I checked another article from the site Sri Venkateswara Temple and found it a copy of Tirumala Venkateswara Temple. So we can safely assume that this site has copied the Palli Kondeswarar Temple article too. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 08:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks--Vin09 (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

World Heritage Site
Remember, we should always follow a Featured list or a Featured article, when in confusion. The article you pointed out is not a FL. I have modelled it on a List of World Heritage Sites in Spain, a Featured List following the same. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি, But FL List of World Heritage Sites in Madagascar has it. Let us discuss this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World Heritage Sites, since it impacts all these articles, till then let the table remain. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:23, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The matter is that Madagascar article has less number of sites. But the India article has huge number of insignificant sites, about which much information is not retrieved. Its better to remove the table instead of keeping it and making it blank. Moreover it diverts the importance of the sites. I would prefer asking an admin. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি, please add your comments on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_World_Heritage_Sites and retain the table on India article till a consensus is reached. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello
I believe your concerns have been addressed.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

TTT 2015
If you have time, join this event at the end of February meta:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program/2015. Last date of registration is 27 January. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Tito Dutta, it is not possible for me to travel to Bangalore for the event. I would be interested if there is something in Mumbai. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Nandaka
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Addition of External Links to Durga Wikipedia Page
Dear Friend, We recently added few links to original content on youtube and my blog about Maa Durga Deity and the same seems to have been disapproved. May I request you to kindly re-consider a review and let me know if the added links were not in tune with the specific page.... The links that we added were content that we have published on youtube and blogspot. We hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devisharnam (talk • contribs) 11:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Brahmavidya Upanishad
Allen3 talk 00:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

You?
Nvvchar sir has applied for TTT 2015. It took me 3 emails from him to understand I was not clear enough to tell him that they will pay for your air-fare,, travel, food, and all other "incidental costs" (this does not include buying gifts for family members, friends)

Now, why not you? PLEASE come to TTT 2015. Note: You'll get economic class air ticket.

Could you register RIGHT NOW here meta:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program/2015? Then we can do long discussions, if you want. Withdraw any moment, but the deadline is already over. So, please register right now.

I want to see you there over a cup of coffee with Nvvchar Sir discussing Upanishad DYKs. Register right now, we'll discuss all things later. ---Tito Dutta (talk) 02:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Tito Dutta, constraint is time, not money. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Kaivalya Upanishad
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Kaumodaki
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK
Glad to see you active again. EEng (talk) 15:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks EEng. You are one of the people because of whom I am back on DYK. I was so inspired that I have dared to create a 38-article hook. See Template:Did you know nominations/Nayanars.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:55, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If ever there was fertile ground for a 38-article hook, the religions of India would be it. Thanks for the praise, though I'm not sure what I've done to deserve it. It does seem like a lot of silly know-it-alls have decided to cast their pearls before other swine. EEng (talk) 17:40, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Uttanka
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

V Imp reverting of the edits in wikipedia for Guru Gorakshnath
Hi- Jai Mere Guru ke Nath Guru GorakshNathJiki

This is representative of Guru GorakshNath Spiritual Group We had updated wikipedia because lot of misunderstandings about Guru Gorakshnath. He is not 11 century Yogi but Lord Shiva Himself. If you read the blog in signature its proved the same. Hence calling him 11 century Yogi is incorrect. That was the reason we removed the section we found incorrect. The content was referenced from following URL Guru Gorakhnath disciple

Pls revert back our change ASAP. I hope you understand our good intensions. I am new to wikipedia, so in case I have not followed guidelines, pls help in putting the content I mentioned in required format. Pls acknowledge once you have started editing or need any info.

Thank You. Alakh Niranjan !!! Regards, Guru GorakshNath Spiritual Group. http://gorakhnathdisciple.blogspot.in/ जो नाथ किसी का ध्यान नहीं लगाए ब्रह्मा विष्णु तेंतीश कोटि जिनको प्रणाम हैं लगाए वो एक शिवलिंग स्वरुप भगवान शिवगोरक्षनाथ हैं ! Devendraparmar1 (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Devendraparmar1, There are numerous WP:Reliable sources that date Gorakshanath between 10th-12th century CE . He is associated with Lord Shiva and Naths, Adinath (Shiva) being the first Nath in sampradaya. as well as its source  has many inaccuracies and violates No original research and Identifying reliable sources.

Examples:
 * "Guru Gorakshnath is the founder of Hath Yog and Nath Sect.": This belief contradicts all basic tenets of Nath sampradaya, where Matsyendranath is called the (human) founder of Nath sect; preceded by the divine founders Shiva (as Adinath) or Dattatreya.
 * "Guru Gorakshnath is a supreme form of Lord Shiva and Vishnu": Naths are associated with Shiva, not Vishnu
 * "In Treta Yuga both Lord parshuram (Incarnation of Lord Vishnu) and Lord Rama (Incarnation of Lord Vishnu) were his disciples.": Which scriptures assert this? Not even mainstream Nath traditions mention these. Redtigerxyz  Talk 05:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Pls read the blog provided. Matsendranath himself asked shiva for Help to spread nath Tradition, and that's how he came down as Gorakshnath. Matsendranath learned from Shiva and Shiva is Guru Gorakshnath on earth that's why mentioned he is founder. He infact became disciple of Mastendranath to also teach how disciple should be. If he was 10-12 century then how did he was a guru of Bharitharinath who was more than 2000 years back and how did Shankaracharya mentioned about him. The truth he appeared in various times last time was 10-12 the century but that does not mean he is 10-12th century yogi, He is non born and no one can tell when he was born because he appeared various times in various ages. The 12 Panths Ram Ke panth etc is not known to any one as of date but they were original panths in Treta Yuga established to spread yoga knowledge by Rama who accepted Shiva as his Guru. You need to read the whole blog to understand there are more than 400 posts and the auther is learning directly from Guru Gorakshnath. If you want reference its only in the blog I will provide specific links. The problem is lot of things in Nath traditions have been modified over time hence no one knows the truth. We want to clear bad/incorrect things about Guru Gorakshnath throughout internet.Regarding Guru Gorakshnath being Shiva and not Vishnu - There is no difference between both so does not matter that's what was mentioned in my post also, and even if you do not agree it is mentioned in Navnath Bhaktisaar Guru Gorakshnath is Hari Narayan.

Devendraparmar1 (talk) 11:48, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Devendraparmar1, we regard the above as original research and the blog as not a reliable reference. As such we will not accept your submission, please choose another site for same. Thanks. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

We will provide referces that can prove Guru Gorakshnath is not 10-12th century yogi. What ever mentined about him is false. Did you even try to find out the period of Bharatharinath on earth or read about what Shankaracharya wrote about Guru Gorakshnath. This will prove that he is not 11th or 12th century yogi. That clearly needs to be mentioned in wikipedia. You yourself have written he is Shiva. So indirectly he is Guru of Matsendranath or no ? Devendraparmar1 (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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References to prove Guru Gorakshnath is not 11th Century yogi
As mentioned earlier I am providing References to prove Guru Gorakshnath is not 11th Century yogi

1) Treta Yuga Lord Parshuram went to Guru Gorakshnath http://gorakhnath.org/jhundi_mahayatra.php
 * References not reliable. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

2) Guru Gorakshnath was Guru of King Bharthari in 1st Century BC Reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharthari
 * Wikipedia is not reliable. WP:SYNTHESIS.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

3) Bappa Rawal of 8th Century was Disciple of Guru Gorakshnath. References - http://nepalihistory-shankar.blogspot.in/ http://www.ayo-gorkhali.org/en/gurkhas/who-are-the-gurkhas
 * Blog not reliable. See WP:BLOGS. The site (whose reliability needs to be examined) dates him to "8th century", which could be mentioned as alternate dating. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

4) Gogaji is believed to be born by blessing of Guru Gorakshnath in 9th Century Reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogaji
 * Wikipedia is not reliable. WP:SYNTHESIS.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

5) Raja Gopichand

6) Gahininath of 13th Century was disciple of Guru Gorakshnath Reference - https://books.google.co.in/books?id=wjW8BQAAQBAJ&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=gahininath+and+guru+gorakhnath&source=bl&ots=a1oZyJSBjI&sig=trH4pNLM7fF1Db_5HdoWPUoxtcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zn_dVKbTAcaPuATP7YDICw&ved=0CFYQ6AEwDA#v=onepage&q=gahininath%20and%20guru%20gorakhnath&f=false
 * Reference dates Gorakshanath to 12th century.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

7) According to Nepali folklore, Guru Gorakhnath appeared to Prithvi Narayan Shah in the form of a

meditating sadhu (holy man) around the time of the Unification of Nepal in 1768 Reference - http://www.ayo-gorkhali.org/en/timeline/mythic-beginnings/guru-gorakhnath
 * The site presents this as a legend. Can be mentioned as a legend.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

8) References(About Guru Gorakhnath) have been found in Vedas Reference - http://www.rudraksham.com/gorakshanathji
 * References not reliable. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I think the above links are more than sufficient. Hence request you to please change wordings - Gorakshanath (also known as Gorakhnath) was an 10th to 11th century[1][2] Nath yogi in the beginning to following Guru Gorakhnath is Lord Shiva's yogic manifestation ref - http://gorakhnath.org/ He has appeared in different ages to teach Yoga and then here you can add the above 8 references. If needed you can mention that he is mentioned in various ages i.e 8th century, 11 century etc.
 * The references present various theories of dating and legends. Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Additionally I am mentioning details from our blog which will make things clear http://gorakhnathdisciple.blogspot.in/2013/03/guru-gorakshnath-shri-nath-ji-lets.html Please update the wikipidia page about Guru Gorakhnath. Also add reference to our Blog in wikipedia page http://gorakhnathdisciple.blogspot.in/2013/01/chapter-1-about-guru-gorakshnath.html
 * Blog not reliable. See WP:BLOGS. Redtigerxyz  Talk 05:10, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

If you want me to do so pls let me know. There are some minor changes needed in Nath Sampradaya section which can be done at a later point Thanks Devendraparmar1 (talk) 18:55, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * So everything looks unrelaible to you - how can you say the links you provided are reliable, what is the differentiator ?. Pls note the Auther (Guruji) is learning things directly from Gorakshnath Ji in samadhi. Anyways we do not expect you to believe this. We only want the truth to be told. Unfortunately there are various false records about Nath Sampradaya in multiple sources and none of them is reliable. Lets keep these things aside

Can you mention following at start (I am also mentioning reference which is NOT from our Blog site)

Guru Gorakhnath is Lord Shiva's yogic manifestation ref - http://gorakhnath.org/

and mention there are various records about his existence in all ages most recently from 8th/11th to 18th Century(you can mention 8th/11th century and 18th century reference I gave). Is this possible ? Devendraparmar1 (talk) 12:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Devendraparmar1, please do not add original research and please note— Wikipedia is not a soapbox. See also WP:Truth. You might wish to start a blog or visit a forum if you want to convince people of the merits of your favorite views.. BTW, here you wrote We had updated and That was the reason we removed the section. .. — please explain what do you mean by "we"? (I can see two other users User:Nathwarrior and User:Aapune were editing the article in a similar way). --Tito Dutta (talk) 22:40, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

When I said We I mean the group of users of Blog Guru Gorakshnath Disciple. I do not in any way relate to the 2 users you mentioned above. I had given various references that prove Guru Gorakshnath is not 11th century you and has been coming in various ages as late as 18th century. That was what we (Guru Gorakshnath disiple users) expected as wikipedia is always on top of search results and we wanted right info to be present about him. I guess it should not be difficult for you to say his existance is recorded in various times instead of mentioning 11th Century. Additionally he considered as Yogic manifistation of SHiva can also be mentioned in first line (reference I have already given above and you also have mentioned in Duet with Balaknath section). If that can be mentioned in first line, it will be good. Hope this clarifies and you can now update the first line. Devendraparmar1 (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Mahalasa Edit
Hello Dear Redtigerxyz, Myself Sumedh Tayade (talk) 07:07, 14 February 2015 (UTC), Few days back you had pointed me about the Malhari Mahatmya and mother's name of Mahalasa Goddess, The Marathi tv serial Jai malhar names Mahalasa's mother as 'Mayananda' so how i can prove this to wikipedia, can i give citation about this tv serial for proving factual accuracy or need to think distinctly and then implement the changes by Consensus? Sumedh Tayade (talk) 07:07, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * , Tv serials or films are not the most reliable sources for Hindu deities and their legends. Like most adaptations, Jai Malhar takes artistic liberty and digresses from popular versions of the legends of Khandoba. One example is Mayananda. The Malhari Mahatmya does mention Mhalsa's father Timma-seth, but her mother is not named. There may be other texts or oral legends that may have the character "Mayananda", on which Jai Malhar may be based. If reliable references (scholarly books etc.) can be found stating the certain text or oral legend states that Mayananda is the mother of Mhalsa, we can include it. Also, certain TV serials or films acquire cult status over time and their version of the tale becomes popular, for example

If over time, Jai Malhar attains this stature and is quoted by scholars, its version of the tale can be added in the Khandoba-related articles.
 * Ramayan (TV series) is discussed in Maya Sita article
 * Film Jai Santoshi Maa in context of Santoshi Mata; so its version of the tale is noted in the goddess' article.

PS: I will recommend you reading Help:Using talk pages, which teaches how to use a talk page. Always add a new discussion at the bottom of the page, an user may miss out a new page if it is at the top or middle of the page. Use "New section" (top right of the talk page) to start a new discussion. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)