User talk:Refuteku

About Izou and Ox
Well, it's implied theyre having a vision, by means of the Crateris Cloth...I mean, like Sion and Douko did...Ox mentions the Cloth and Izou mentions he heard something about the properties of the water of Crateris.

Technically, isnt exactly a vision, is more like a reflection of the future in the water...But the image of Athena and Seiya is enough proof to know they saw into the future.

I didnt mean a vision exactly, I meant they saw the future in the water of Crateris. That can be corrected to make it more specific if you wish.

Saint Seiya wiki
Hi, I am a member of the saintseiyafan.com forum too, so if i can help in any way with the Saint Seiya wiki, just let me know, I'd be glad to.

Regards.

Hi
Hello, yeah, it is okay if you use the bios I wrote in that site, I used to visit it often sometime ago...Sorry I took some time to reply...didnt notice I had the message, hehe... Just please tell me the URL of the thread or section of the site where you will use the bios, just to know. Take care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 04:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Template
Hi. Okay, editing the category is better, so I added the missing characters. I think its better all the characters are available, the articles are complete enough. Thanks for telling me how to edit the category. Take care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 23:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi
I dont know exactly what you mean, but i think its because of the link box I have added to character pages. I dont know why the Saint Seiya character category is missing a lot of the characters, thats why I decided to add the link box. I dont know how to edit the category, if I did, i would have done so instead of adding the box. Lots of characters were removed, and I dont think there's a good reason for that, since they had complete articles. They were listed in the category before until they were removed. I think the link box will be useful until someone includes all the missing characters in the category again.

Take care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 18:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Again Asterion
Hi, well, yeah, you're right, never got my hands on that image, so i thank you. It seems Kurumada didnt forget this time to cover a plothole, so Asterion's tomb is indeed in that pic he drew.

Thanks again. By the way, I have added images for all the Silver Saints that were missing their own. I will add pics for all the other characters that need one.

Take care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 16:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

About Asterion
Hi, i removed the part of the text in his info in which it says that his tomb appears in the Hades arc. That is not true. It does not appear in the manga, nor in the anime. Asterion's fate is unknown.

There are only two times that Saint tombs appear in the manga, one is in the Poseidon arc, vol.14, showing the dead Gold Saints tombs, and the other is in vol.19 in the Hades arc, showing Silver Saint tombs, and Asterion isnt there.

I left the manga page of the Silver Saints for you, so you can make sure here:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9126/1915po1.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 03:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Tenma
Hmmm, I didnt notice what you asked, sorry...Care to ask again?

Oh yes, i remember now that line. Well, that would imply that Kurumada changed his mind, but it would also seem as a contradiction to Lost Canvas, in which the Pegasus Saint that hurt Hades wasnt Tenma, but the one from the age of myth, according to Virgo Asmita.

Since ND is made by Kurumada, i think it will end up as canonical, so we will have to accept that Tenma was the one who hurt Hades, which in my opinion, destroys a part that i liked very much in Kurumada's work —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 19:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Specter
Its okay, just add the info. I created the pages for the 3 missing Specters, Iwan, Rock and Stand. So theyre complete now...Im just having some trouble to add the images, but i will try to figure it out.

Specter
Well, no offense, but Kurumada didnt based his characters in those chinese stories, but if you wanna add it again okay.

About Divine, translating the kanji as Heaven or Celestial in this case is too literal, and it shouldnt be used like that. Divine is other of the meanings of the kanji and its more fitting than celestial. A lot of people tries to translate it as Celestial in the case of the Specters and that causes a lot of confusions and funny translations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onikiri (talk • contribs) 17:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

About Tenma
Well, it seems you missed it, but Kurumada hasnt changed that. Tenma is not the same Pegasus Saint that hurt Hades. The one who hurt Hades was the Saint of the mythical age, Tenma lived in the 18th century. In Lost Canvas, Virgo Asmita shows Tenma the moment in which his reincarnation of the age of myth hurts Hades.

Though Lost Canvas is not made by Kurumada, he does supervise it.

Tenma appears battling Hades in ND, true, but that is something Kurumada has yet to reveal. Tenma and the Pegasus Saint of the age of myth are not the same.

OniKiri

TenKaiHen
Of course I will, I will try to find the file, but rest assured, the info is completely true. Kurumada's original plan was to start the Zeus arc with a short introductory manga, then the TenkaiHen movie, and the arc would have continued with OVAs, if Toei hadnt been so disrespectful to his work. Mow, all we have left to do, is to wait for him to start writing and drawing the Zeus arc manga, the way it was supposed to be.

OniKiri.

TenKaiHen
Hi. Hmmm, I dont know if it's is here where I should answer to your question, this wikipedia message thingy is a bit clunky. About your question, Masami Kurumada stated so in his site in some time after the movie premiered. The statement was there for a long time and though i think the link was removed, the file is still there...I reached it some time ago through a direct link but I no longer have it. In it, he said that Toei Animation didn't respect important parts of his script, so the TenKaiHen project wouldnt continue the way he wanted it to.

I am a long time manga/anime fan and semi-pro mangaka, for over 20 years, so I am well informed about all things related to it, trust me.

OniKiri

Saint Seiya
Yes you are right, but there is still a lot to do...Tragic Taco will also be able to help us, he has already done great things on some character articles (like the 5 Bronze)...

Folken de Fanel 00:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there, are you doing some of the editing on the Saint Seiya Character pages? I have added some already but there are just alot of characters to be covered, maybe we can create a project group?! What do you think? Interested? I've asked few others, perphapes creating a project group would help unless there's already one.Yajaec 19:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Saint Seiya, a sci-fi?
You appear to be a fan of the series. Yesterday, I categorized Saint Seiya in the sci-fi anime / manga subject but I'm unsure about this, as they are for the most part based on astrological signs and other related matters. I did this change also because of a google search saying so, though the search may have been inaccurate. After this is settled, think you can answer the question posted at Talk:Saint Seiya by I'm anonymous (aka my former username) Thanks. Lord Sesshomaru 16:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I did a few edits at Frog Zelos for you {^_^} Let's get down to business: everyone has superstrength I'm assuming? Who actually has the power of flight and who can actually move at superhuman speeds? Been a long time since I've last watched the show and hardly remember anything out of it. So it is sci-fi? Lord Sesshomaru 17:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think people are able to watch the show on YouTube or Videosear.ch, did you see it online? Lord Sesshomaru 17:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Too much characters
Hello Im Tintor2. As you know the article of Saint Seiya characters is turning ridiculous big. We are giving articles to characters that appeared a few times and didnt do anything. The plot section of some characters is pretty detailed. There is no source in some article like Pegasus Seiya I asked an editor to give advices and as you expect he told the same things I have mentioned. Please if you can help me to ask for merge. See you. Tintor2 15:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Edits made
Well information about the weight, height and blood type are considered fancruft since it is not relevant to the plot. If they have something strange that would be explained in the section without using *. I think that merging movie characters to the movie article is the best option we can do because they are exclusive.

There is one thing I would like to ask you: Do you know books about Saint Seiya that contain information about the creation of the characters? I have been working in Pegasus Seiya the article needs sources more reliables to the creation section (and if you can tell where I can download would be appreciated^^). Well, see you.Tintor2 15:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It would be better getting the original sources, but other websites are also ok.Tintor2 16:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I have never worked in a movie article but it would be goof if you use a more reliable source instead of your galllery. I ll pay a look later. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 13:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The problem is this. Never link to fansites or others like youtube or hotmail.Tintor2 (talk) 01:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

However, the break that.Tintor2 (talk) 14:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

It would be good if you can find a more reliable source.Tintor2 (talk) 15:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

So add as a source the magazine. Use Template:Cite book to reference it.--Tintor2 (talk) 15:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Pegasus Seiya
Hi, Refuteku

Please stop editing Pegasus Seiya goes into a coma, unless you can provide an independant and reliable source directly from Masami Kurumada where he clearly states that in Volume 28 Seiya is not dead and the part of volume 28 where it states that indeed Seiya did not die. It doesn't become a fact just because you think you "know", you've heard it somewhere or beacause you assume it. The volume 28 of the manga series clearly stated the fate of Pegasus Seiya up to that moment and unless Volume 28 of the manga is edited or its words changed it needs to remain that way. Please refer to the last parragraph of the page where it talks about the differences between the old manga series and Tenkai-hen which is also located in Pegasus Seiya's page.

[In Heaven Chapter Overture, Seiya was supposely cursed by the sword of Hades, instead of dying as he did, both in the manga and anime. (It is not confirmed whether this movie will be canonical and considered as part of the anime series) Seiya is able to do minor damage to the god Apollo with a single attack. The conclusion of the actual fight between the two is not depicted; instead, the climax of the movie cuts to a peaceful scene where Seiya apparently becomes reacquainted with Saori Kido.[23]]

Amick_lindsey 03:27, 05 February 2009 (UTC)

You need to check NExt DImension ;)

Refuteku: I know of Next Dimension because I work for 株式会社集英社Shueisha who holds rights and produces many light novels and mangas, including 聖闘士星矢Saint Seiya from 1986 to 1990. I've checked the issued chapter 13 of Saint Seiya Next Dimension which is also Masami Kurumada's work. I find valid some of the changes made to Pegasus Seiya, but you need to respect the copy righted material as is Saint Seiya, especially volume 28. That includes explaining the plot properly which at the time explains that when Kurumada wrote the work, he finished and letf no continuation of Volume 28, which would mean Volume 29 (Does not Exist) and therefore up until now, that was the fate of Pegasus Seiya as he intended to portray at the time. You need to respect that fact. if you wish to integrate more to the plot, you're welcome to do so with reliable sources and respect the ones already given as Volume 28 in a following parragraph or in Saint Seiya Next Dimension page. Don't forget that while Saint Seiya Next Dimension is also part of Kurmada's work, the characters are not Saint Seiya's, so it does not reflect directly to the last issue of Saint Seiya, at least until Kurumada decides to do so. Thank you.

Amick_lindsey 02:07, 06 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Saint Seiya characters
Hello,

I'm sorry you took my edit as "vandalism", but I assure you that was in good faith. I don't understand the inconsistencies between "[character name] (Saint of [constellation name])" and "[constellation name] [character name]", so I tried to fix them. I believe the "[constellation name] [character name]" format is the one used in the first pages of the (Japanese) manga volumes, hence my choice.

Also, it really is "Whale Moses", in the manga. It was "Kaitos Moses" in the serialization (i.e. in Weekly Jump) and in the TV series, but that was changed to "Whale Moses" in the collected volumes (and everything since). The same thing happened with "Musca Dio", for example: the character was originally "Musca Dios" in the serialization and the TV series. I'm not sure what motivated Kurumada to make those changes, but... Erigu (talk) 17:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply.
 * Here's evidence of Moses being "Whale Moses" (from the bunko edition of the manga). Erigu (talk) 18:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

The Information I added is the real story both in manga and in anime, right? You said unneccessary, so can you tell me what kind of information is unneccessary? User: Miracle dream

Speedy deletion
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Saint Seiya
Hi, I wanna ask something. Harry Potter wiki and LOTR wiki is allowed to be put on their articles. Why is Saint Seiya wiki not allowed? Alagos (talk) 11:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

ND
Hi there! Yes, indeed I am that same Cyn. :) I see. Haldir had told me that you had to let it go so I assumed that meant no work had been done on those chapters. Do you need any help or can I just cross them off my to-do list? Cyn starchaser (talk) 18:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

All right then! Let me know if you need anything, though. And btw, if you ever have the time/will to restart the project in the future, it's all yours. You were doing a great job with it. Cyn starchaser (talk) 19:16, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I have a quick question about ND. I would like to keep using the same names that appear in your translations in these chapters, so I was wondering how you translated the name of Suikyo's attack "Hiso Byaku Renge"? I think the first time it appears is in chapter 29. Thanks~ Cyn starchaser (talk) 10:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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Edit conflict
Hello, haven't heard from you in a while. I was wondering if you're aware of a certain user called Ryulong who is making unneeded edits across all the SS articles. Some of his edits are welcome, but some are rather unnecessary, as he is forcibly trying to include what he believes is right, for example, he wants to list Scorpio Milo as Scorpion Milo, and though we know the katakana indeed reads Scorpion, the constellation name in the west is Scorpio. Also, he is adding the unneeded katakana for constellation names, and many other changes. Maybe you can help, in case you don't agree, because he claims he is doing it because it has been agreed with other users. Onikiri (talk) 22:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I am bringing all of these pages in line with the various manuals of style on the English Wikipedia. The fact is that Onikiri believes he is in control of all of these pages. I have fixed the "Scorpio"/"Scorpion" issue, but the katakana is necessary in these instances because the kanji and sometimes hiragana names of these characters in no way match the actual way that the name is pronounced. For example, 女神 is always "Megami". And if we just say the romaji for that is "Atena" in Saint Seiya we are providing false information to the reader, which is why I have put （アテナ） next to it. The same thing goes for characters in Omega such as the Tarandus Saint which is labeled as トナカイ座 but pronounced as カリブー or the Dorado Saint which is かじき座 and read as ドラド. There is no way that the former are in any way pronounced as the latter. We at Wikipedia need to provide the correct information and the best supported information, of which the literal translations of characters' names is not.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 00:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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