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Well
Thanks for your well-pointed assertion on my RfC. You seem to know a lot about Wikipedia - which I don't. I have been wanting to make a formal complaint against Ronnotel - do you know the procedure? Thanks DemolitionMan (talk) 04:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

RFC against Ronnotel Filed
As you requested, I am keeping you informed - I have filed an RFC against Ronnotel

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indian rebellion
Cawnpore Section:

Ive noticed your helpful amendments/comments to this page. I just wanted to point out to you the entire section on cawnpore is wrong, and obviously written with a Indian POV. see website: http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/indiancampaigns/mutiny/cawnpore.htm

In the wiki article it says the british were unarmed, this is false, and a number of facts a false. Hope this helps —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockybiggs (talk • contribs) 22:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Devanagari Text
I thought you were a neutral administrator who had created an RfC on the Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857 page. I didn't realize you are a disputant yourself, who apparently seems to want the Devanagari script in. I have now copied the Devanagari script to the Talk page, where it rightly belongs, and will remove it from the main page. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  02:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll leave it in. Thanks for explaining it.   Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  03:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks!!! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Indian Rebellion of 1857
Sorry think i did my bold removal the same time as your edit, however mine has come out last, you might want too amend Rockybiggs (talk) 14:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for the response. We seem to disagree on two main things terminology and nationality.

There is a need to change British to Company because the EIC was legally a separate entity to the British state, and it controlled large parts of India as such. The article even states that one of the results of the rebellion 'End of Company Rule in India'. If you disagree with me on that then please consider that, as I explained on the article's talk page when suggesting the change, a lay reader will confuse 'British' to mean the British Raj which occurred later.

I used the term 'European' to describe that nature of those in the employ of the EIC and their dependents who were not just British. If we just use 'British' we exclude the involvement of other Europeans. While I accept it might cause a little confusion I can't think of a better collective noun.

I was using Mughal to describe the dynasty, like say the Hapsburgs, who were a non-native dynasty. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

You suggest also that 'the rebellion was solely directed at the British' when actually the rebels happily murdered whites of any nationality.

Rsloch (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2008 (BST)

Thanks
I appreciate your kind comments. Ronnotel (talk) 22:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

LeithP
LeithP seems to suggest that you insinuated that I should be banned from all British Raj articles. From your post, it seemed to me that that is not what you communicated. Could you please clarify your position on the Admin board? Thanks. DemolitionMan (talk) 06:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Diffs
Thanks for pointing this out to me. I was actually referring to the two diffs you had provided! Corrected my statement accordingly. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 21:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I encourage you to take a second look. It may be a bit difficult to understand the context of his comments if you've never been involved in the talk-page debates of articles supervised by the PAW taskforce (and I say that without the slightest intent to condescend). The few times I did get involved, I ended up being labelled at best a passive supporter of paedophiles, at worst a card-carrying member of NAMBLA (and if you're really interested, I can point you to the relevant diffs of the accusations). I can shrug off people who accuse me of being a dickhead, a dimwit, a fan of Kid Rock or a supporter of George Bush. But a paedophile? That's a bit harder to ignore because it's way more hurtful, even though I know full well the accusation is baseless. I did not sign up for this shit, so I just gave up on these debates. Martijn did not and I admire his dedication (I'm almost tempted to say his recklessness). If you really carefully go through what he says, you'll see there's not a hint of sympathy for paedophile activists in there. What you will see is a defence of this fundamental part of the NPOV policy. Facts are facts. Every human being with basic decency understands full-well that paedophiles acting on their desires are in the wrong (to put it mildly) and there's absolutely no need to tag every sentence with "and by the way, this is really horribly wrong and absolutely impossibly bad in every sense of the word" for people to understand these articles. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 22:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just one more thought. I don't think that Martijn's point is that "NPOV is synonymous with weighting all sides equally" as you stated. It's more like NPOV means not weighing the sides in the first place. State the facts, state as clearly as you can the arguments of either side of a debate and trust the reader to pass moral judgement adequately. Again, back to the ol' Hitler example. Take this sentence from the article Hitler's political beliefs:
 * Hitler wrote of his hatred towards what he believed were the world's twin evils: communism and Judaism.
 * Though one could add "The overwhelming majority of historians consider this belief to be nonsensical.", that sentence is completely unnecessary. But note the paradox here: suppose this sentence is added to the article and a neo-nazi activist happens to read the article. Naturally, he will argue on the talk page that this extra sentence should be removed. He'll defend that point for all the wrong reasons but in the end, he's right: the sentence should be removed. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 22:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again. I just noticed you retracted your opposition to Martijn. I appreciate you taking the time to revisit this with an open mind. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 03:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Religious violence in India
I have reduced the size a bit. Thanks Desione (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I certainly have no problem in deleting the "religious violence in India" article if that is what you are proposing and will be glad to support any such moves. Desione (talk) 23:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: My RfA
Thank you for your kind words regarding the outcome of my RfA. I, too, am disappointed that a userbox was used as justification for why I should not be an admin. If my nomination had failed based on the MfD concern, I would have been content with that as I can see why someone would be concerned about that issue. However, it amazes me that people interpreted a little box on my userpage as evidence of bias, especially given there was an IfD which proved otherwise. Nevertheless, I'm still glad to know I had more supporters and neutral who were on the verge of support than I did opposers. Cheers! Redfarmer (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The Transhumanist
Hi, RegentsPark. I see that you offered your condolences to The Transhumanist for his failed RfA. If you really think that he deserves it, why don't you nominate him next time (perhaps in a few months)? Although I opposed him, I think that if he changes his attitude, he might potentially succeed in the future. Also, he would get a more favourable response if the nomination is not a self-nomination. Regards. Axl (talk) 10:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not (yet) convinced that he would be a good admin. If/when he applies again, I'll re-assess. Regards. Axl (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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Peer Review
Hi there,there are two articles yet to be reviewed in the WikiProject India/Assessment page.Can you do it when free? Thank you for your time. - Amog |T a l k 09:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Much obliged :) Amog |T a l k 06:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again! Sorry to keep bothering you,but there still is a backlog on the assessment page.User:kensplanet still hasn't looked into it.Also, User:Rohit_nit in his message below thanked you for peer-reviewing his article.When i checked the article,it says "not rated yet".Any of that make sense? Amog |T a l k 11:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * All right,a peer review wouldn't hurt.I'll add it to the page. - Amog |T a l k 14:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review it! Guess a whole lot of changes still have to be made :) - Amog |T a l k 06:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks.I've made a start on the re-write.Check it out whenever you're free. - Amog |T a l k 10:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The college was founded by the trust.The trust was eventually taken over by SPIC chairman A C Muthiah(Also former president of the BCCI,You'll find him mentioned in his fathers page).I'm really not too confident with this information,and wouldn't like to write unreferenced stuff.You can find info about that stuff here. Oh,and there is a page on spic:) - Amog |T a l k 08:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S: when i said 'established', i meant Spic turned it into a reputed college - Amog |T a l k —Preceding comment was added at 08:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the vote of confidence :) Making the article an FA is one of my long-term goals - Amog |T a l k 05:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review of NIT Srinagar
Hi, thanks for peer reviewing the article. I am relatively new to wikipedia. So, I could not get the meaning of "Copyediting". Could you elaborate? I will try my best to incorporate the suggestions you have made. Well, I have got some facts about what has happened in 48 years of the institute. But, I can not find any references for those facts. Will it be good to add those facts without providing references? I am searching for references regarding the finances of the institute and others also. Thanks again for the review.Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 13:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Have replied
Hi there, I've replied to your post on my talk page. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  18:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That was a funny reply. :) I guess you do have a point.  I noticed too that one editor who had used past future constructions in some FAs, is no longer using them.  Let me think about it some more.   Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  20:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * PS Do you have some connections with Myanmar? If so, is everything OK with the cyclone?  Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  20:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Very sorry to hear that. I hope your friends' families are safe.  I hope some aid agencies can get there soon.   Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  21:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Work at FAR
I just peeked in and see you've been keeping up; thanks so much !! Just a note, you should be aware of Emsworth's abandoned FAs, we don't bother to notify him, since he's gone. See WP:WBFAN and Featured articles with citation problems. If you enjoy working at FAR, you might be able to help me keep up with flagging current FARs on the citations list. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Jeez! You do a lot of work out there (I looked at WP:WBFAN and Featured articles with citation problems). How the heck did you identify all those articles as having insufficient inline citations for example? Happy to help but tell me how? (I assume that the current FARs will either stay as FAs or be dropped as FAs within a few weeks?)--RegentsPark (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't to do that initial work on the list, and I don't know how it was done; could have been a bot that counted the ref tags or something. Just flag them as current FARs if someone submits them.  Not sure what you mean about a few weeks?  We've been working on the citations list for two years, and have saved one-third of them.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice catch! If you watch me for about a week, you'll get the hang of it.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * PS, to doublecheck for my (careless) errors, the total numbers on the page should always add to the original 523 (look at the monthly stats, see how they always = 523). Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Right there behind you :-). --RegentsPark (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks :-) Eventually I may get to grow up and do something else :-)  There's also this to be maintained.  I try to hold it the oldest five.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 23:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Current events India portal
Did you have a look at this page Portal:Current_events/India? It is in a very bad shape. Can you or someone related to wikiproject India do something about it? Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 14:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can update whenever I can, but not regularly, because my internet connection is very irregular. But, I am not only talking about updating the portal, but also that page needs some editing corrections (the calendar) which I do not know. Can you do something about it?Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 04:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In order to add more current events in the news section, I deleted three earlier posts as it was mentioned there to display not more than six events at a time. How can we archive the earlier events without deleting them? Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Adoption
Now that you have given me a lot of giudance related to Wiki, will you adopt me? I will be very delighted to be your adoptee. Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Reports of senility
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Re: C.ramachandran
There are lots of reasons.A lot of the article was initially written on a first-person source(me.).So there obviously was/is an NPOV issue.Also,that highlights a COI. There aren't any real or actual sources for the info put there. (On a side note i recently found this)But isn't that enough to get it deleted under G7? - Amog  |T a l k 04:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I Assure you,it's all true,though I'd much rather prefer if the article was written by someone other than a close family member(I'm feeling rather guilty about making this article).I guess he is pretty notable, but i doubt any article is going to come up in the near future.He's long retired from government service:) - Amog  |T a l k 13:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship, and your positive feedback on my editing philosophy; I’ve found it’s served me well over the last few years. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration
What does the collaboration of the week mean and what do the wikipedians do to that article? Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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Re. Burma/Myanmar
Hello RegentsPark. I think I did the right thing but I have reverted it back to Myanmar as I don't want to thrown bias accusations at for simply undoing a misdoing. Hopefully an uninvolved admin will revert Nichalp again. I do not recommend that you start new surveys or polls until the article is definitely back to Burma, as that is precisely the kind of thing that may give the impression that Nichalp's move was accepted. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  01:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow. I duck out for a weekend, and when I come back... wow. -BaronGrackle (talk) 06:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your support. As expected, the discussion at WP:ANI has died out and no uninvolved party will do anything to undo Nichalp's actions. However, this is far from over. Again, thank you. Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  21:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)