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Rod Griffin (basketball)
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FL for ACC player of the year
My intent was never to make it a FL (even though I noticed the similarly-themed Big East Conference page is) – I just saw how much better I knew I could make it and went for it. I'm not gonna lie, I feel pretty jaded when it comes to FL criteria. A couple months ago I nominated my first FL candidate after over 1,000 personal edits to the page. It was eye-opening to me how utterly hypocritical the reviewers were -- they were telling me to change things to make it "FL acceptable" when I saw on other already-FL pages where the "problems" I was being told did not matter. I also found it to be mind-numbing to have to go back and make minutia corrections over and over again. My biggest quandary was with the references -- apparently I still don't fully understand how to label them and what is considered a reliable source.

If you're willing to deal with all the citations to make this a FL (besides just general help), I'd be willing to try to expand the lead and do whatever I can in those departments.

By the way, other related college basketball list pages I've worked on: Colonial Athletic Association Men's Basketball Player of the Year, Pac-10 Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year, Nancy Lieberman Award, Robert V. Geasey Trophy (I've been on a college basketball awards binge lately and will probably keep plowing away at most of them). Jrcla2 talk 17:22, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. I say let's just both work on it and see what happens.  I saw your William & Mary FL review.  The article is very impressive.  Hopefully, you can get it to FL someday.  It seems too bad that it didn't get promoted.  I was similarly disenchanted after the FL review on my UNC seasons article.  Cheers.  Remember (talk) 18:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

ACC POY
Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the work on the page and that if I come across as irritated or snobbish with my comments, it was never my intent. I appreciate the work you're doing and I think that a lot is lost in translation when my thoughts are put into text. I'll be honest, I think this article will be a shoe-in for a FL once we get the refs finished and a peer review done. There's not too much missing as far as I can tell. It's only a matter of time. Jrcla2 talk 23:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I just submitted the article for a peer review. I didn't want to hop right in and submit is as a Featured List Candidate because peer reviews are generally required/encouraged to have done prior to a Featured nomination. As I said before though, the page is full of properly cited, reliable sources, it has a sufficient lead/summary length, all acronyms are explained either via a Key or the words spelled out first, and the page is visually appealing. I don't imagine this peer review will reveal many mistakes. Let's hope not, anyway. Jrcla2 talk 01:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Help
I don't have any familiarity with DYK procedures (the one that I contributed to was merely me adding content and references, the other editor did all the DYK-nomination dirty work). Therefore, I don't really know what it is that needs to be included/looked for when submitting one. I'm assuming you just wanted recommendations on the generality of the article? If so, here's a quick run-through list:
 * 1) Birth date/year missing
 * Can't find.


 * 1) Add as many categories as you see fit (for example, there are probably categories for every coaching position he's ever had, such as Category:Harvard Crimson men's basketball coaches -- remember, he doesn't have to have been a head coach to still qualify for those types of cats.)
 * Done


 * 1) The dashes between season numbers should be en dashes.
 * Done


 * 1) More inline citations are probably a good idea, but that's your call.
 * Done


 * 1) I understand this is a sandbox copy, so more editing still needs to be done on your part before you make it an article, but there are no years of coaching in the infobox. Also in the infobox, en dashes should be used between the year and the championship in the Championships section.
 * Can't find years.


 * 1) In the article's body, when a season is mentioned it is unnecessary put "1921-1922" -- it should read "1921(en dash)22" → 1921–22. By the way, the en dash is the far left dash on the toolbar at the bottom when you're on the "Insert" dropdown list.
 * Done


 * WP:HEADER dictates that unless a word is usually capitalized in body text, or it's part of an official title, it should be lower case. In other words, "Living Abroad" should be "Living abroad".
 * Done


 * 1) I would merge the Family section into its own paragraph at the end of the Background section. It'd be unnecessary IMO, but you could even change the Background section header to "Background and family".
 * Done


 * 1) Another tweak that I would make would be to make the References into a as opposed to what's there now. It's an aesthetic thing, but I think it looks better.
 * Done


 * 1) This has nothing to do with the article in question, but the UNC Men's Bball coaches navbox looks awkward. Basically, either all of the names with pages that do not yet exist need to be linked (so that all of them show up as red links) OR the aforementioned pages need to all be de-linked (so that they're all black text). It's confusing looking to have non-linking plain text, dead-linked red text and correctly-linked blue text all within the same navbox.
 * Done

Jrcla2 talk 21:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, not sure if you knew about this category, but Category:American military personnel of World War I would work for the article as well. Jrcla2 talk 21:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done

Alzheimer
Thanks for your appreciation: it took more than a year to take it to FA and there are still many things to improve so comments as yours make easier the daily effort. Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 07:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:2009-10 NCAA Division I FBS football conferences
You seem like someone who has editorial interests that go along with creating an ACC page to fill in 2009-10 NCAA Division I FBS football conferences.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I don't think I have that much time on my hands. But I will keep an eye out and try to help out when I can. Remember (talk) 00:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Howell Peacock info discrepency
According to your book sources about Peacock (I'm assuming), he played for Georgia through 1911–12 and began coaching in 1912–13. However, according to http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/howell-peacock (statsheet.com is a very reliable college basketball source) he actually began his coaching career in 1911–12, amassing a 6–1 record. Now, unless he was a rare player/coach, this is a pretty big discrepency. I'm not sure how you want to handle it. Jrcla2 talk 19:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * According to the Georgia Media Guide See page 174 of History section, he was the captain of the 1911-1912 team and the head coach of the 1912-1913 team. So I was planning on going with that. Remember (talk) 20:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd tend to lead toward the media guide, too, since that is presumably created based off the school's historical records, box scores, game programs etc. I guess we should just disregard the statsheet's data on the supposed 6–1 record. Jrcla2 talk 21:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Any ideas on a possible hook for the article if it becomes a DYK?  The best I can think of is "Did you know that Howell Peacock coached the future Governor of North Carolina Luther H. Hodges while at the University of North Carolina?"  Pretty boring, but I'm not sure there is much else of interest. Remember (talk) 14:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose the only other quasi-interesting hook could go something like this: "Did you know that Howell Peacock became the head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs men's basketball team the same year he graduated from there?" Kinda lame, but Peacock doesn't seem to have many DYK-worthy mentionables. Jrcla2 talk 17:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, unfortunately the sources don't provide much fun info for Peacock. Feel free to add your alternative hook to his DYK nomination page. Remember (talk) 17:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Opine for Fg2
You contributed to the Signpost Tip Room's discussion of Fg2's death. Several editors have decided to collaborate to get one of his favorite articles to FA status. Would you care to opine on which article we should select here? Thanks. - Draeco (talk) 04:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: NC Basketball Seasons
Unfortunately I'm going to have to pass on this. I have a handful of projects that I'm currently working on that will require lots of time and energy. Although I'm happy the ACC POY article became a FL, it was an excruciating amount of work to get it that way and I'm just not up for that kind of challenge again. My recommendation, however, is to post a request on the WikiProject College Basketball talk page to see if anyone bites. Good luck with the article though. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply. I don't think I will have the time to do a ton of work, though I'd be glad to review and give feedback if you want.  I have never done an FL article, so I'm not sure I would know I'd be giving the right kind of feedback, but I can try.  Thanks  Rikster2 (talk) 23:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Any help would be appreciated. Remember (talk) 14:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD vote needed
Can you go to Articles for deletion/List of NCAA Division I men's basketball players with 2000 points and 1000 rebounds and put in your opinion/vote? Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 03:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Fight Club
No problem. I couldn't remember that being a stipulation of moving in with him either, and the text-based convo from the scene helped to refresh my memory. No where in there does he insinuate that should the narrator not hit him that he can't stay with him (granted, it's all in the narrator's head anyway...but we're unaware of that at that point anyway :D). Plus, by the time I got there, and others came, it seemed clear that the majority agreed that the current text that was there was inaccurate. At least it appears that the heat has died down over the argument now that more people have weighed in.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  14:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK: Fred Boye
I just wanted to show you why I took out that sentence about the Southern Conference. If you look at the 07-08 UNC media guide records section (here), go to page 31. It shows that they didn't actually join until the 1921-22 season, but in your article it said 1920-21. Also, if you check out List of former Southern Conference members (all dates are accurate), it shows that the SoCon didn't start until 1921-22. I didn't want you thinking I had no sources for my removal of content. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually knew that its just I worded the article poorly. I meant to say that UNC made arrangements to join the new Sourthern Conference in the middle of the season, not that they actually had joined the conference in the season.  Thanks for the edits though! Cheers! Remember (talk) 21:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

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Monk McDonald
I noticed the category "American Military personnel of World War I" on his page. There is no mention of him being in the military in the page. Is that left over from the copy/paste of Fred Boye, or did he actually serve? Jrcla2 (talk) 14:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Left over. I will remove.  Great catch! Remember (talk) 15:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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List of North Carolina Tar Heels men's head basketball coaches
Hi. I noticed that you nominated the above article for good article. Unfortunately, as a stand-alone list, it doesn't qualify for "article" status and can't be a GA. I noted this on the review page as well. Consider nominating the list at featured list candidates instead. KV5 ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought lists were eligble too? Could you tell me where it says lists are not eligible.Remember (talk) 16:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, what about this article List of counties in Delaware? Remember (talk) 16:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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Re:NCAA Basketball awards
Sure, I would love to help out although I am kind of on wikibreak right now.— Chris! c / t 18:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So, what are the articles in this topic?— Chris! c / t 05:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That is part of what needs to be worked out. You can see a bunch of the articles that currently exist in this category (Category:College basketball trophies and awards in the United States).  But there are some national awards that still need articles. I can discuss more after the holidays. Remember (talk) 02:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

PR
Hi Remember. I added more comments just now to the PR page for the List of North Carolina Tar Heels men's head basketball coaches. Hope this helps. Finetooth (talk) 19:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Zero stroke
Thanks Remember :) I was worried that I was being a little nitpicky (I know it took a long time...)! Thanks again for your comment. JulieSpaulding (talk) 20:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm glad you've had worse... I don't want to be known as 'that DYK reviewer who makes you revise your article 100 times before approval'! JulieSpaulding (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

UNC Tar Heels Basketball Records
If you want to take a gander at what I've been up to go here North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball records. If you see anything that could be added please do so. Or if you have something else you'd want to add please let me know. ThurstAsh13 (talk) 03:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)