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UK great power status
I'm afraid they're still trying to get rid of the mention of great power status in the United Kingdom article, or at least water it down. Seems like a typical POV attack by a number of editors (though they pretend otherwise). We may need some assistance from other long-standing members to sort this out. David (talk) 23:51, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a RfC may be in order? I'll reply over there. — Jon C.  ॐ  09:02, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey Co-Collaborator
Just popping by. Was reading this research paper earlier, some interesting stuff, thought you might be interested too if you haven't come across it before. --HighKing (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks, HK. Just had a quick scan and it looks like an interesting read, even if I do already vehemently disagree with one statement (that Britain isn't a "nation-state")! Haha. Still, nice to be challenged and all that. Will have a more thorough trawl through when I get a minute. Cheers, — Jon C.  ॐ  20:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Paddy Finucane
Jon,

I'm in the proccess of building this article and it isn't very helpful when people delete information from it without discussion. The article has been referenced in Early life and Education which covers the uncited information in the introduction, as is customary. Yes, he did group up during the Troubles. Another user has reverted your incorrect ammendments with regard to his heritage. I have to go with what's in the sources. Appreciate your interest. Regards. Dapi89 (talk) 14:49, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Troubles started in the late '60s. Paddy Finucane died in 1942. Is this some kind of practical joke? — Jon C.  ॐ  17:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see that is not correct. "The Troubles" was a phrase that came to prominence in the 1960s, but the term was used well before then. Only unless you are Jon. Dapi89 (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm terribly sorry, Dapi, but you're talking out your arse. "The Troubles" as a phrase refers to the ethnoreligious conflict fought between warring tribes in Ulster from the late '60s to the late '90s. It does not mean the Anglo-Irish War (or "Irish War of Independence"), which I think is what you're referring to. — Jon C.  ॐ  17:33, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm affraid not. Referenced and cited by an academic. Bye. Dapi89 (talk) 19:15, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you give an exact quote or at least somewhere I can find this "academic" source? I find that very hard to believe. — Jon C.  ॐ  14:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Have to agree with JonC here find it hard to believe an academic source refers to The Troubles happening before the late 60's. Mo ainm  ~Talk  18:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC) Worth remembering that often terminology already exists,and gets re-used, espicially in 'historiography'. Cf:

'Over a century later, resurgence in military activity during "The Troubles" (1919-23) necessitated a similar programme of reconstruction and repair, the targets of the incendiarism'- http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/Surveys/Buildings/BuildingoftheMonth/Archive/Name,1393,en.html

And:

'Many Clane people would be familiar with the most violent incident of the Troubles 1919-21, known as Bloody Sunday'- http://www.hidden-gems.eu/clane%20-%20mick%20sammon.pdf

And this is on JSTOR, for those with Academic access:

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/29742640?uid=3738032&uid=375174243&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=3&uid=60&sid=21101589975847

Nollaig shona daoibh!
 * Thank you for that Mr Anon!!
 * It comes from Dr Alan Parkinson's Belfast's Unholy War: The Troubles of the 1920s ISBN 978-1-85182-792-3. It is used over and over again.
 * This article is about a Spitfire ace and this rather minute and unrelated topic is boring and unnecessary to someone like me who doesn't really give a damn about the Irish political past. So I'm not fussed. I just wanted to show it wasn't mistakenly included and is a perfectly legitimate phrase to use in the context of 1920s. Dapi89 (talk) 12:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)