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"Swami"
Please understand that this is an wp:Honorific or title, not a name any more than "Bishop" or "Father" or "Brother" is a name in Christian usage. With rare exceptions, we do not use such in article titles. This has been an ongoing issue in some biographic domains, and particularly among ISKON biographies. It takes a concerted effort to prevent WP articles from turning into a credulous inside-baseball repetition of various doctrines. Your move was in the exact wrong direction. LeadSongDog come howl!  21:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure "Swami" is an honorific – it's part of his name, no? An honorific in a Vaisnava context, I think, would be including something like "Srila" or "His (Divine) Grace" or one of the -pada/-deva names in the article title (A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is a notable exception, as Prabhupada has become part of his common name). The Tripurari situation is also very much about WP:COMMONNAME – I have never seen the Swami called "Bhaktivedanta Tripurari". Happy to discuss this with you further on the article talk. — Jon C.  ॐ  06:15, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No more so than Doctor or Mister. Everyone doing the same thing sticks the same word(s) onto their name, it doesn't much matter to me what we call that word, but it is not a name. Names are labels used to distinguish among individuals. You might make a case that swami is a title, or an occupation, or a calling, or a form of address, or a style, but it is unsustainable to call it a personal name when it is used by everyone of his kind. So far as COMMONNAME goes, (and that is not as far as many editors seem to think) he might better be simply B.V. Tripurari, the name he uses himself. LeadSongDog  come howl!  12:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)