User talk:Renamed user 995577823Xyn/Archives/2012/1

Publicity stills
Any chance of anything for Dean Martin? Thanks, – Connormah (talk) 18:35, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing in particular. Just curious. Also if you could look for Alan Ladd also, that's be great. Thanks! – Connormah (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair Use of Mouli Cohen Photo
Please see discussion on The Mouli Cohen Photo Talk Page. Thanks, Ellis408 (talk) 02:59, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Re:Hanover Music Corporation
Fantastic, I wonder if we could use it as a reference for a possible future Corinthian article. Must admit I'm not sure what the guidelines are on citing letters, but if it's possible it would be very useful. Thanks for the new album link, I'll add it to the others. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I added it to the list of albums with a redirect, but when it gets an AllMusic rating it could become a separate article. I'll add Jo Sings for You as well, though the page is getting quite big now. Might have to split it somehow. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I never seem to be able to get collapsable tables right (I always miss something and end up with lots of dashes, etc), so thanks for doing those. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:09, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ok, let me know if you find it and I'll add I'll drop it in. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Duet album
Thanks for the info on the album, and the table. I can just cut and paste it straight in now, so will do that this evening. :) Good luck with the magazines. It sounds like there's some interesting stuff in there that we can add to the article. More pictures is always a good thing too. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * All done now. Even managed to add it to the template, following a bit of a hiatus. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems like you have a mammoth task there. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

thanks a lot
for your clean-up at. Copyright stuff seems to what I hate the most, so of course screw it up the most. I much appreciate your coming to my rescue. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 05:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Revert if necessary
A done deal ;-) We hope (talk) 07:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

M People Picture
I have put in as advised. After this attempt, I take it that this my amendations have made this acceptable with no further debate. This has now been finlised and dealt with. Hope it is to your satisfaction. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebuaki (talk • contribs) 13:46, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Smithmc.gif
Thanks for catching and fixing the title for this so quickly. I was very tired this morning when I uploaded.Jacqke (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Bechdolt.jpg‎
I appreciate your making the image public domain. I'm not doing something right, because I keep getting bot messages saying I am not giving it enough information to know that it is public domain."Jacqke (talk) 03:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hersheypark photos
Sounds great! Upload them, and link me a location! --Son (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * These pictures are very useful! Thank you very much! --Son (talk) 23:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Go for it! --Son (talk) 01:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Fair Use Rationale for possibly nonfree images
I hope you can help me out. I have an article that I've uploaded photos (which I took) to amplify the article. The pictures are disputable as to whether any residual copyright attaches, even though the original artist of the subject photographed has donated the work for civic good. Because of the disputability, I attempted to put the photos on the U.S.-based Wikipedia servers -- not in Wikimedia Commons and that was accepted for a long time (two years or more). However, recently, somehow the photos got caught up and moved to Wikimedia Commons, where they were subsequently flagged and removed.

How do I get them back on U.S. servers with a Fair Use documentation attached? How do I prevent this from happening again? Bill Cupp (talk) (cool ASCII art ship missing here) 00:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

File:George Maharis Steambath 1975.jpg
Is this image safe to be transferred to Commons? --George Ho (talk) 23:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought so until I saw the part about this being a possible Langdon photo, since one has to assume he copyrighted all of his work. But--there's an Elizabeth Ashley photo from 1972 that has his backstamp on it but doesn't have any copyright markings.


 * My thought would be to go easy on this and try doing some more research on this Maharis photo regarding whether it can be found with a copyright mark. If you've found it in any collections like Getty Images and it has a copyright notation, then I'd say it's a non-free photo.


 * Maharis or his management probably provided the photo to the theater--it's also possible Marahis may own the rights to the photo and felt free to distribute it in this way. Bottom line--I'd do some more searching before moving this to see if you find any identical photos that indicate they're under a copyright of some kind. We hope (talk) 23:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I already searched in copyright.gov and Archive.org. Langdon's name were not found in these sources. By the way, you don't have to give me a "Talkback" template; I already have this talk page in my watchlist. --George Ho (talk) 23:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * So is this image all right to be transferred to Commons? --George Ho (talk) 00:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

You bet! :-) We hope (talk) 01:03, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✔️ as commons:File:George Maharis 1975.jpg. Nevertheless, I still keep local copy, just in case. --George Ho (talk) 02:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks nice! We hope (talk) 04:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Got mail; going to upload two images myself
Thank you for your replies. I think I will upload these images myself; let me know whenever I missed something. --George Ho (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I uploaded only one image and its extracted derivatives; I used only one in George Nader. --George Ho (talk) 05:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You covered everything-nice job!! We hope (talk) 17:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow!
Great work in uploading all the pics to the train articles. It is really helping to improve the articles. Well done. Dave (talk) 07:22, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Paul Connolly (journalist)
Thanks for the ref. I have a couple of others from the Irish Times to add as well so it should look better than. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good now, and I should be safe to remove the template, although for some reason one of my Irish Times references links to the e-version of the paper. Not sure why that is, but it should be ok. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I guess I'll have to make it an offline ref if it's not showing up. I got to it through Google.ie's news search so I'm wondering if it's only accessible from that. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:41, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll have to do a bit of research into how to do it, but will definitely give it a go. I think this link should hopefully enable you to get to the article, as it's the news search I used from Google.ie. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:52, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Had a go at archiving the page, but unfortunately it hasn't retained the content. But at least I have WebCite set up now so I can use it for other things. It's been suggested to me that I should keep a screenshot of it on file in case anyone wants proof that it exists, so I've done that. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ok, this is it. I guess you could be right about the IP thing. Perhaps they're just allowing UK and Ireland users to view it. I think for a short time it wasn't possible to hear UK radio stations via the internet if you tried to access them from overseas, but that seems to have been addressed now. Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad it's all working ok. I guess that probably was their thinking with internet broadcasting, and actually Ireland also still has quite a large state-owned media, with just one commercial television station, so perhaps there's some correlation between that and their copyright laws and what can be accessed from different countries. Incidentally we still have the TV licence fee, which is currently £145.50 a year - though I'm not complaining (honestly). :) Thanks for the advice on WebCite and Tinypic by the way. Two very useful sites worth knowing about. Paul MacDermott (talk) 01:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Some good news on the Irish Times link. Somebody managed to find the original article, though I'm not sure how he actually did it. I've also managed to archive it with WebCite. Viewing it seems to work best with Google Chrome as, for some reason I can't seem to get it to focus properly in Explorer. Re broadcasting, I think infomercial insurance is a good way to see it. Most of the ads on our main channels tend not to be too bad, but some of the cable and satellite ones can be a bit cringe-making to watch, and there's some questionable radio commercials too. A couple of recent ones that spring to mind are a woman singing a love ballad to a jar of coffee and an add for a sugar substitute which I think was inspired by Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

RE File:ASoRE Advert.jpg listed for deletion and File:KKong Advert.jpg listed for deletion
I notice you have placed this template on the images I have uploaded to Wikipedia. Even though I have provided rationale for their fair use, you continue to oppose their use on the designated article. If you have a problem with these files being used please take it up with an administrator and they will affirm that I am not breaking any copyright laws. Furthermore, one of the images I have uploaded (File:ASoRE Advert.jpg) wasn't 'in copyright' in the first place and was actually placed inside a non-copyrighted brochure. ϟ heled ☏ →Skeletalk 16:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But I can use them elsewhere in the article if I provide commentary?? ϟ heled ☏ →Skeletalk 18:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Re:HighBeam Applications
Thanks, I'll add my name to the list now. Access to this would be a huge help if I can get it, and I have to agree with you about Google News Archive. It certainly haan't made things easier. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's brilliant, thank you. Some really good stuff in those. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Good Find
File:Denver and Rio Grande train at Soldier Summit 1915.JPG, sweet. I found 2 copies of this photo (or at least an almost identical one) in books about the Rio Grande when I was researching to expand the article on Thistle, Utah. I thought this photo would make a good addition to the article on bank engines. Nice to see now we have a copy!. Thanks for finding that. Dave (talk) 18:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Princess Irene of the Netherlands
This DYK nomination has been reviewed. There are issues of the article, so you may check the issues. --George Ho (talk) 20:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Princess Irene of the Netherlands
please comment on the alternative hook I put on the template.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC) ✅ We hope (talk) 00:55, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

no need to apologize
Are you kidding, the back log was what held it up. You responded seconds after I reviewed it. By today's DYK standards, that was a quick review. I just wanted to mention that now that the expansion is under control, maybe it is time to expand the lead in that article. I think it would look better on the main page with a full lead. Take Care.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

copyrighted image
pls help me in getting the license details for File:Rose savvy.jpg, i dont know how to solve it. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If it is non-free, simply add rationale. Go to WP:Non-free use rationale guideline. --George Ho (talk) 16:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I think i've fixed the issue. Kailash29792 (talk) 18:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Princess Irene of the Netherlands
Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Clare Briggs
Oddly enough, I saw this photo for the first time a few hours ago at Mike Lynch Cartoons and considered uploading it... but too busy on other things. However, I was surprised you cropped it. I think it should include his wife since she adds much character to the photo. Her name is Ruth Owen Briggs. He must have outlived her as his obit has many names of relatives and friends who attended his funeral, but I don't see her name there. Pepso2 (talk) 21:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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Life magazine renewals
Since you found an archive of Life magazine copyright renewals for some of the files in question on the CCI, and I subsequently noted that the U.S. copyright office online search page seemed to have missed a number of years, can you comment or check on this? Since you are the prime investigator for the Life images in question, some clarification about this would be helpful. I certainly need to know if I can trust their search page in the future. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The online copyright search at copyright.gov only goes back so far and doesn't take into consideration all copyrights filed since the office began. Only more current copyrights appear in their online search.  The best place to start looking for older information about whether an item was renewed is here : Catalog of Copyright Entries.  It's organized by year; search the year before as well as the year the renewal was due, as some companies filed before time was up.  Their pages are trustworthy for the timeframe they deal with. We hope (talk) 19:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for that. But your link source goes through 1977 only, and the online gov search starts from there, including 1978 and newer. When I noted that I found no Life renewals prior to 1985, I was using the online source. The text source apparently stopped being published in 1978 according to what a librarian told me. Since almost all of the Life images in question would have been renewed between 1978 and 1985, how do we handle that time period?


 * I'm responding here to keep all questions and responses connected, so I'll check back here. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 21:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Copyright Act of 1976 no longer requires copyright registration. However, there are other ways that can make a magazine issue copyrighted:
 * Copyright notice (proper): Form of copyright (Copr, Copyright, ©), Proprietor, and Year. Simple.
 * If copyright notice is malformed or omitted:
 * Registration before first publication or within five years after first publication
 * No more than "relatively small copies" omit that notice; many other copies bear notice.
 * "All rights reserved" or something similar &mdash; I think. In other words, omission of notice violates a written agreement that a copyright notice be beared.
 * So, if you want to inspect copyright of every magazine, use microforms, such as microfilms and microfiches. --George Ho (talk) 15:07, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

That information should be at copyright.gov in their database. FAQs for copyright searches. "Failure to find a renewal record here does not necessarily mean that the book is in the public domain." We hope (talk) 21:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The quoted sentence above seems to be referring to the rest of the paragraph, which wouldn't relate to hundreds of Life magazines in general during the time period we're trying to focus on:
 * "Failure to find a renewal record here does not necessarily mean that the book is in the public domain. Because of changes in copyright law, books published in 1964 or later, and many books that were originally published outside the US by non-American authors, do not have to register or renew in order to be copyrighted. (See the Library of Congress Website for details.) Also, it's possible for a number of works by a particular author, or published in a particular magazine, to be covered under one blanket copyright that may or may not mention the individual pieces by name. So when researching the copyright for a particular piece, you should know its author and publication history, and use this information in your record searches as well."


 * Since you are the prime investigator of the CCI, and the handful of images tagged would have been renewed between 1978 and 1985, how do we verify this? --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you misunderstand what I've been doing with the images. I am not a member of the CCI team-if I find information, I enter it there.  Your question needs to be taken up with someone like User:Moonriddengirl. We hope (talk) 22:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Will do. Thanks for trying. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 23:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, if you need any of your recent photo uploads improved a bit, like I did with your Dick Clark addition, let me know. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 02:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! And I'm going to suggest that in future, you copy the back of a photo as well as an uncropped copy, as in that Dick Clark photo, and then upload the "finished" version of it. Many have press releases and dates on the back. You get the source and timeframe on record like that. We hope (talk) 04:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I assume the links which show both sides won't be around forever. BTW, I found the answer to the above question and posted it at File:Eisenstaedt-Monroe-Life-1953.jpg discussion. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 06:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a way to archive web pages. Internet Archive only crawls a very small number of sites when compared to the number of them on the net and some sites don't allow bots at all.  With WebCite, you can archive a page and get a link to it; all it takes is a valid e-mail address.  The only site I know that keeps their sold items online permanently with front and back displayed is a postcard site, CardCow.


 * My own "solution" to the PD or non-PD issue has been to consider everything as non-PD unless I can provide proof (link to the copyright renewal pages showing no renewal, date on the item for pre 1923, etc.) that there's no copyright or renewal. We hope (talk) 14:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Your "solution" is the one mandated by our policies; we can't presume that something is PD, but must have evidence to believe so. Wikiwatcher, I'm glad you found the solution to your question. If you have other questions about determining status of images, you might want to try WP:MCQ or Wikisource. They're really very good at sussing out such things and may have good tips for you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

re Non-free use of File:LITMW publicity.jpg
Hi there We hope. Thanks for you recent message. I really hope this image can remain, but obviously I appreciate the issue. It is/was most definitely a publicity shot − it also appeared on official merchandise such as T-shirts until quite recently, and I notice the pic is still included on the Harrison online store page: http://www.georgeharrison.com/#/store/uk. Anyway, I'll post a comment on image's talk page as instructed, but I just wondered: if I were to upload the image from, say, this Harrison website (rather than scanning a page from a book, as I have done), does that get around the problem? (i.e., is the scanned page the problem?) Many thanks, JG66 (talk) 14:01, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I misunderstood − I'd been focusing on the image page's licensing comment ("To the uploader: This tag should only be used for images of a person, product, or event that is known to have come from a press kit or similar source ..."), so I thought the status of the image as a publicity shot was the problem. Thanks for your suggestions, JG66 (talk) 15:36, 23 April 2012 (UTC)



Re:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey.jpg
I'm sorry but I do not know exactly what I am supposed to do to the image in order to keep it there? Also, I'd like to keep the publicity license if possible. HousewifeHater 02:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Housewifehader (talk • contribs) HousewifeHater 02:14, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

"removed extra license"
- but it's promotional screenshot, from the official website release. Is it really not possible for a picture to have 2 licenses? --Niemti (talk) 07:04, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

SJClarkson.jpg
First, you are wrong to say that this media could be replaced by text, since it is a picture of a person. Secondly, it is obvious that this is free to use, since it's from a press photo for a film festival. Bleakgh (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You have licensed it as a copyrighted promotional photo--that makes it non free. The criteria for unacceptable use of non free photos for living persons is right here "Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images." We hope (talk) 02:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

File:1973 Susan Strasberg.jpg
One of my images is nominated as "possibly unfree". Well, this photo has no copyright notice, yet the pictured subject, Susan Strasberg, was a one-time guest, and Mannix belongs to Paramount Television. I wonder if you believe that it should or should not be moved to Commons. --George Ho (talk) 15:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you should remove the do not move tag as this is clearly a PD photo-sent out with a CBS logo on it and dated 1973 with no copyright marks on it front or back as can be seen from both uploads you made before the cropped version. Ask Magog to move it as his bot will move all of the versions of the file--not just the most current one.We hope (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made a reply at WP:PUF, and I will contact Magog about this. --George Ho (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * George, when you work with these newspaper files, you sometimes see that when the paper used the photo, they gave photo credit. When the photos have come from a television station or network, they always credit them and not the studio the show was done at unless it was the studio who sent them the photo. We hope (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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Machine-gun tagging

 * This belongs at Commons-not here-and FWIW, it was discussed with a Commons admin before any of them were tagged. We hope (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Kindly note that all of them had sources and that Commons permits anonymous works. "No source" does not mean disputed source or authorship; take them to a DR or drop the issue.  Moreover, you are liable to be contacted on any WMF user talk page at which you are active; your en:wp talk page is no less suitable than your Commons talk page.  Nyttend (talk) 22:22, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright tags
I'm not sure if you noticed, but you had added several user talk pages to a template category (Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright tags) by using a broken template. I've fixed them (,, , , , , , , & ), but I thought you should be aware so the problem can hopefully be fixed. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  22:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Questioned photos
Can you check if these images were uploaded by me, as neither is familiar, yet are listed among my credits: File:Rosemary Forsyth 1965.JPG and *File:Rosemary Forsyth 1965 The War Lord.JPG. Thanks. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 23:58, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You are right and they've now been removed. We hope (talk) 00:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Any chance you can simply delete files listed on the investigation page that aren't mine, rather than just saying they aren't mine next to the listed image? I'd feel guilty taking credit for someone else's file upload.--Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So those working with CCI are able to account for the files, I've removed the links to them on the main page and listed them here. Would prefer that a CCI clerk make the decision re: any further action on them. We hope (talk) 20:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:File at CCI by Wikiwatcher1
Hi. I noticed that there is only one file in the category. When I look at Contributor_copyright_investigations/Wikiwatcher1 there are many "blue link" without a notice. Should they also be tagged? And should only "free files" be tagged? --MGA73 (talk) 08:23, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't set up the file list originally. Think when it was done, all files-free and non-free-were included. Someone at CCI probably can tell you more. Sorry, We hope (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Finally, a Jo Stafford autobiography
Hi, and thanks for the picture. I don't know if you've seen this, but a couple of days ago I found a Jo Stafford autobiography available through Amazon called "Songs of the Open Road: An Autobiography and Other Writings". One item definitely on my Christmas list for this year. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, I'd love to see Jo and Paul make it to GA or even FAC, so hopefully it will help with that. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:43, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a great idea. I'll look forward to it. :) Good luck with the photos by the way. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hopefully it should shed some light on the series. A couple of things I'd like to find would be enough info for a Jonathan and Darlene spin-off article, and perhaps one for Corinthian Records. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I hadn't thought of asking him actually, but he would be a good source of information. If he's happy to help that would be great. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I'll put together an email in the next few days and see if I can get him interested in helping out. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:31, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good picture, so go for it. Apart from the cartoon we don't have any colour images at the moment. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Have been shopping on Amazon today and decided to buy myself a copy of Song of the Open Road. Amazon.co.uk had one left when I looked this morning, so I thought I'd go for it now and treat myself to an early Christmas present. It should arrive by 12-14 September, and it'll probably take me a couple of weeks to read it. I'll let you know how I get on and what I find as I read through it. Also thought it would be useful to read the book before emailing Tim as it may give me more of an idea on what questions to put to him. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Picture Recommendations
We Hope, If you are looking for other articles to update with photographs Rue McClanahan and Jane Greer could use a facelift. I wish you continued success with your photographic endeavors.Crazyvoodo (talk) 14:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Notes on book
Have just finished reading, and there's lots of stuff we can use, for the articles on Jo and Paul, and possibly a few others. Sadly nothing on the Grammys or Club 15, but several interesting anecdotes about Tommy Dorsey, Frank Sinatra and others from the Big Band era. Most of the material comes from their pre-1950s careers as the text seems to be taken largely from the work they did on their autobiography, but there's some later stuff. Also some information we have in their Wikipedia articles does not appear in the book; for example the earthquake at Long Beach High. Below I've listed some of the stuff I discovered: I'll read through it again in the next few days and start adding some stuff to Jo's article. Also think there's enough to start a Jonathan and Darlene page so I'll do that. I also notice we don't appear to have a La Martinique article. I might look into that too. Paul MacDermott (talk) 22:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Lots of stories about being "on the road" with the Tommy Dorsey orchestra.
 * A detailed chapter on how Jonathan and Darlene Edwards came into existence.
 * Some information on the early history of Capitol Records; how it got off the ground, etc.
 * Mention of two people for whom we currently don't have articles: Carlos Gastel (Stan Kenton's road manager), and Joe Kearney (road manager for the Bob Crosby band). I think Gastel ended up working in television, while Kearney went on to enter a seminary and studied to become a priest, who incidentally would later officiate at Paul and Jo's wedding. He also headed the Catholic Labor Institute. Not sure whether there's enough material around for articles, but worth a look.
 * One chapter titled The Ducks Are Drowning concerns a mishap on live television. Jo was performing against the backdrop of a specially built country scene with pond, and complete with ducks. A giant water wheel was supposed to create what I guess was meant to be a waterfall effect, but instead nearly proved disastrous for the poor ducks when a floor managers set the speed too fast.
 * The letters in the second third are from a period between March and September 1945 and detail a period when Jo and Paul were working on opposite coasts. They provide an interesting snapshot of their lives, as well as the world of the time. I think there may be a couple of good quotes in there, but will have to read through them again.
 * Some essays written by Paul Weston while he was Director of Music at Capitol. These include pieces titled The Hit Psychology and What Is Bop?
 * Correspondences between Jo and Johnny Mercer.
 * An article from the July 1945 issue of Band Leaders magazine concerning the appearance at La Martinique which has some great usable quotes.
 * Thanks for the link. Interestingly Mile Nordif is mentioned in some of Jo's letters. I think at one stage he had romantic intentions towards her, but by then she was courting Paul Weston. There's brief description of La Martinique in one of the notes - basically who were the owners and its address, but not much more than that. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:16, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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Images
Hi, We hope! Thanks for that Shirelles picture, that was one I needed. I'm looking for four more images, if you get a chance and possibly upload these, I'd really appreciate it. The ones I need are The Crystals, The Marvelettes, Martha and the Vandellas, and Mary Wells. They would be used for I'd truly be grateful if you can do this, or at least some of this. Thanks! Best, --Discographer (talk) 19:22, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Whoa, a free Shirelles picture? How could I have not seen that on my watchlist? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Billboard to the rescue again! :) We hope (talk) 15:42, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That's awesome. I see why it didn't pop up on my Watchlist... wasn't put in the article. That's been remedied. Awesome work — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sometimes I just start "chopping" and don't always get to adding them for a while. :) We hope (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. I've done the same, mostly on Commons. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Have a big list of PD photos I'm trying to work my way through and sometimes I end up all day uploading them to Commons--there's more of them than there are of me. :) We hope (talk) 16:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Re:More on Paul & Jo
Great pics, thanks for those. I'll look for somewhere to slot them in. Not sure if you've seen these, but I've just done a bit of digging on the album. This mentions some of the tracks, though they're all listed separately and in different parts of the document. There's also a brief description from whe Billboard website here but unfortunately not much information. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. We should include something somewhere. Just found a copy of Billboard Magazine from January 16, 1971 which appears to mention the album, but the text is a bit small to read. Apart from the Jonathan and Darlene songs it must be one of the last recordings they made together. Paul MacDermott (talk) 22:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, not so good in that case. :) Looks like there was definitely an earlier Tribute Records which I'm starting to think may have been dedicated to religious and inspirational music. Worldcat lists this LP from the 1960s, but the last part of the year is missing. Paul MacDermott (talk) 22:54, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you could be right. It's definitely the right era. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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Happy Holidays
Hi. Thanks for the picture and the seasonal good cheer. Here's wishing you all the best for the holidays and for 2013. I'm spending tomorrow with relatives, and with luck there should be a few of Jo's CDs waiting under the tree for me to unwrap. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)