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We have lift off!
D'Olly is go at FAC. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:34, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And congratulations to you too! Don't sell yourself short, you were an immense help on this article and it would not have been such a smooth process without you. Likewise, I'd be delighted to work on something together in future. What about your Garfield Sobers Rhodesia affair article? Any plans for FAC? Or I was thinking of a "Stop the 70 tour" article, as we don't seem to have anything. But it's been a pleasure on D'Olly! Sarastro1 (talk) 21:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Let me dig a little. I notice that the article on the 1969-70 rugby tour claims that it "owned" the Stop the 70 tour! title. I've at least one book which covers this in depth, as well as bits and pieces in the book on D'Olly, and in Gubby Allen's biography. I'll see what I can find, and let you know. I've a few things on the go at the moment, though, so it may be a few weeks before I get anywhere. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:07, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Images
In my impertinent opinion, the bearded bloke who has appeared on your user page is no substitute for the enchanting picture of the newlyweds, above. Tim riley (talk) 23:38, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * My wife thinks so too so I can hardly call this point impertinent. I quite like the contrast between the two pictures myself. My wife does however prefer me with a beard, and was somewhat miffed when I shaved for the wedding (I pointed out that these pictures are forever and she grudgingly yet gracefully acquiesced). Married life is going very well so far. As you may have understood from previous correspondence Dalia does not know English that well and so has yet to read any of my articles. She drew a rather wry but endearing picture of me at my desk, apparently typing furiously while repeating the words "Rhodesia, Rhodesia, Rhodesia ..." Well, good I say, shows she knows what she's married. —Cliftonian (talk) 15:42, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 March newsletter
A quick update as we are half way through round two of this year's competition. WikiCup newcomer (Pool E) leads, having produced a massive set of featured pictures for Silver certificate (United States), an article also brought to featured list status. Former finalist (Pool G) is in second, which he owes mostly to his work with historical images, including a number of images from Urania's Mirror, an article also brought to good status. 2010 champion (Pool C) is third overall, thanks to contributions relating to naval history, including the newly featured Japanese battleship Nagato. , who currently leads Pool A and is sixth overall, takes the title for the highest scoring individual article of the competition so far, with the top importance featured article Ian Smith.

With 26 people having already scored over 100 points, it is likely that well over 100 points will be needed to secure a place in round 3. Recent years have required 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) and 100 (2010). Remember that only 64 will progress to round 3 at the end of April. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page; if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email) 22:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Cliftonian! I'm rooting for you. Keep up the good work, friend.-- MarshalN20 T al k 00:35, 1 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Marshal! Well, isn't that a nice surprise. :) —Cliftonian (talk) 15:12, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup mistake
Hi there- this is just a quick note to apologise for a small but important mistake in the last WikiCup newsletter; it is not 64 users who will progress to the next round, but 32. J Milburn (talk) 18:36, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Gould FAC
Hey. I think I've addressed your source review comments at the Arthur Gould FAC. Let me know if there is anything you're unhappy with. Cheers. – Shudde  talk 07:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the heads-up boet —Cliftonian <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 11:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Chilembwe uprising
Dear Cliftonian,

I just wondered if perhaps you might possibly be able to do the GAR for the 1915 Chilembwe uprising if you have the time? I hesitated to ask you initially, since you were already good enough to review the Belgian Congo in World War II for me, but there seems to be a problem with African history articles in general in finding reviewers so I'm afraid I have to ask you again! I believe it has a tangential connection with your excellent Southern Rhodesia in World War I article. All the best! Brigade Piron (talk) 11:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Of course I'd be more than happy to. Hope you're well! =) <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 11:11, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's another one I owe you ;) Brigade Piron (talk) 11:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * If you'd be interested in doing a source review for the 1980 Zim hockey team, I'd be very grateful. The article is basically there and just needs the source review to get to FA. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 12:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure - do you mean simply checking whether they meet WP:RS, or is there something more specific? Brigade Piron (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that and also formatting, etc. Check everything is consistent, maybe a couple spotchecks. If you have time, of course, no obligation. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 20:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I think I've dealt with all the areas highlighted on the Chilembwe GAR, by the way. Brigade Piron (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * OK we're nearly there, just need an inline cite for something and then I'll pass it for GA. Cheers for the reminder <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 18:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations on getting married! I hope you are loving married life. I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that I finally added my comments to the Zimbabwe women's national field hockey team at the 1980 Summer Olympics FAC. Sorry for taking so long to respond to your request. You've produced another great article. Neelix (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi David, how are you? Thank you very much! Yes we are enjoying married life very much. Thanks for the great review on the hockey article, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm sorry to be dreadfully rude but I actually specifically asked for a source review. I'm still lacking one so if you have the time to do that as well I would be very grateful. Cheers, and hope you're well! =) <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 19:00, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm very sorry for having misunderstood your request! I just saw this message now. I'll try to read your messages more carefully in the future. I've had a busy few months, but my workload should be lighter over the coming few weeks, so hopefully I'll be quicker with my responses. Neelix (talk) 19:26, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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FA congratulations again...
Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of D'Oliveira affair to FA status recently. I know you know all about WP:TFAR and the "pending" list, so this is just a reminder to use them as and when suits you. Many thanks.

Incidentally, you (and your talk-page stalkers) might like to know that the TFA nominations has changed. For an experimental period, nominators no longer have to worry about calculating how many "points" the article has. In addition, there is a new (and hopefully easy-to-use) nomination procedure, using a pre-filled template much like DYK. All feedback on the new system is welcome. BencherliteTalk 10:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Cheers chap <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 19:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

And again
Congratulations on getting Zimbabwe women's national field hockey team at the 1980 Summer Olympics up to featured status! You've been busy lately. I like the articles you've chosen to invest in, and look forward to what you come up with next. Neelix (talk) 19:23, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the very kind note. I'm glad you like the articles. Let me know if there's anything I can ever help you with that side. Keep well, God bless, and have a great weekend <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 19:29, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Zimbabwe women's national field hockey team at the 1980 Summer Olympics

 * Cheers <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 07:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

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Dickie Bird
I have to confess, I'm not a huge fan of Mr Bird, but he would be a good article to work on. I don't have any sources on him except two histories of Yorkshire CCC and, of course, numerous Wisdens. I could easily dig out other stuff though, but you might have to do most of the heavy lifting if you have the book. I'm currently bogged down horribly with Bob Wyatt, and something lighter might be good. Particularly as the only other thing I have on the boil is Gubby Allen, who we met, unpleasantly, in D'Olly. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:29, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, as I said before it was just an idea and you shouldn't feel obliged. If I start on Bird I will let you know. I will keep Wyatt and Allen in mind and may come in to lend a hand at some point, we'll see how it goes. Cheers again and hope you're well. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 11:17, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

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Further FA congratulations
And ditto for the Zimbabwe hockey article - really interesting stuff. Any thoughts of a TFA appearance? BencherliteTalk 14:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe on the anniversary. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 19:07, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it might be more appropriate to save it for next time there's the Olympics and have it on a relevant date specifically during the Games (or even on a day relevant to that year's hockey tournament) <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 19:09, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Dear Cliftonian,

If you've got a moment, I'd really appreciate your thoughts or comments at Talk:Yugoslav Front in the renaming discussion. Its rename sadly has potential consequences for all "WWI/II by country" articles...Brigade Piron (talk) 21:01, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 13:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Gubby Allen
I see you are (theoretically, anyway!) on a break at the moment, but if you have time when you get back, Gubby Allen is at PR here. You will be familiar with some of his "work" from D'Olly, but your opinion on the rest of it would be greatly appreciated. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * On it; I will get to this probably on Thursday or Friday if that's okay. As you say the break I'm on is not very rigid; basically I've just been quite overwhelmed with both real-life and online stuff for a while and I'm feeling quite worn out, so the note is just there to make clear I'm trying to give myself a bit of a rest. Thanks for the heads up and I look forward to reviewing the article thoroughly in a few days. Cheers! <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 13:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you have anything else to say about Gubby. I think I've got your earlier comments. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been busy in the army. I'll finish this up now. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 20:08, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 April newsletter
Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's, whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included, who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and , who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from, tiger from and The Lion King from. We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to and  for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

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Thorpe affair
Just a courtesy note to inform peer reviewers that Thorpe affair has been nominated at FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 18:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Brian. Sorry for the delay, I was otherwise disposed. Have supported now, very well done on this really fine piece of work. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 10:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Gubby Allen...
...is now at FAC here. Any further comments gratefully received. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note—sorry for the delay, I was away for a few days. Have supported now, very well done. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 10:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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No problem; give me a day or two as I'm slightly snowed under in real life at the moment, but I'll be there! Sarastro1 (talk) 20:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers bru! <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 08:32, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 June newsletter
After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's, whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

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Congo Crisis GAN
Hi Cliftonian,

I hope all's well with you. I've just re-written Congo Crisis (which has taken ages, but I hope the result is much better than before) and wondered if you might consider doing the GAN? It's an interesting topic and fairly important for African military articles in general. Anyway, if you could find the time, I would be really grateful indeed! Brigade Piron (talk) 14:19, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello there! I am okay but a bit busy. I am acquainted with the topic and would be delighted to look at the article as soon as real life commitments permit. Hopefully by Saturday. Cheers! <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 14:27, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just one very quick comment: I see we use "Katangan", but isn't the correct term "Katangese"? <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 14:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just to say that, I believe I've managed to do/respond to all the points raised in the review. Thanks! Brigade Piron (talk) 20:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, see you there. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 11:33, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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Just checking
We haven't heard from you much lately. A lot going on, as we can all see, in your neck of the woods. Hope all is well.  Tim riley  talk    18:54, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the very much appreciated note Tim. Don't worry, I'm okay! As is Mrs John (who is seven months pregnant!). Not fun having to worry about her every time there are sirens but she grew up here so running down to a shelter doesn't seem to bother her too much. Baby will be a boy. Anyway, we are all right and I hope to be back to at least semiregular output soon. Keep well my friend <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 04:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Rhodesia
Hi John,

I just saw your comment above. Congratulations on the upcoming expansion to your family! I hope you will enjoy being a father. I stopped by to ask for your thoughts on some Rhodesia-related articles. I noticed that you got Public holidays in Rhodesia up to featured status a couple of years ago, and thought that I would nominate it to go up on the main page at some point. Then I noticed that the Rhodesia article is linked in the lead and that article is specifically about the Republic of Rhodesia, while the Public holidays in Rhodesia article is about Rhodesia in the broader sense, historically starting with the founding of North-Western Rhodesia and leading right up until the third iteration of Southern Rhodesia became Zimbabwe. How would you feel about moving Rhodesia (name) to Rhodesia (region) and linking that article instead of the article about the Republic of Rhodesia?

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 * Hi David, how are you? Thanks! I will do my best. On Rhodesia—I think your suggestion of moving Rhodesia (name) to Rhodesia (region) is a good idea as the article is not so much about the name as about the area that name referred to. Once that is done I see no reason why the link in the holidays article can't be changed. Thanks for asking me about this. What kind of date were you thinking about putting it up on the main page? Anything in particular or just whenever? It would probably be best to make it coincide with one of the holidays mentioned, I think. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 12:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Life is going well on my front. I've been working on another master's degree this year, and it's prevented me from having the time to do the kind of content-based editing I normally like to do, but I hope to have time to start submitting FA nominations again soon. I'm glad you like my move suggestion; it is good to have your support for it, considering that you know more about the subject than I do. I can go undertake that now. As for the TFL suggestion, I can recommend that it be scheduled for October 20th to correspond with Republic Day. How does that sound? Neelix (talk) 15:02, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I know what you mean. I entered the WikiCup for the first time this year and I was doing quite well until the third round (I think it was the third?) when I didn't have much time or energy to devote to it and I just kind of fizzled out. I hope to be back to at least semi-regular output before too long, but what with the baby coming we'll have to see how things go! I have tidied up the articles a bit to make clearer the correct situation, I hope it's clearer now. I think Republic Day is a good idea, but I can't help thinking Rhodes and Founders or Pioneers' Day might be better. They were both more exclusively Rhodesian in character and more long-standing than Republic Day. I know we'd have to wait a year for Rhodes and Founders, so perhaps Pioneers' Day might be better if you want to do it quicker? It's also worth remembering that the picture we have at the top of the article illustrates Pioneers' Day. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 16:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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