User talk:Renata3/archive9

Vilnius conference equals decision to break union with Poland
Hello For me is clear that this was the main topic (or background) of the discussion on the Vilnius conference. I wonder if it could have been openly stated? Even if it was not discussed open, it was the background of the decisions made there. Plaese comment. Cautious 09:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Labas, reikia truputi pagalbos
Nelabai susigaudau, kaip reikia elgtis su išnašais. Ar literatūros sąrašą reikia sudaryt atskirai po to nurodant kažkokius pavidinimus. Gal galit pagelbėt?

Brontë poems
I felt that Lines (Branwell Brontë poem) at least deserved an AfD. Also, be aware that it is part of a project - see Brontë poems. -- RHaworth 10:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom/Piotrus
Case has been started, probably you will be interested: M.K. 10:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I would appreciate your input, too. You always tried to 'cool hot heads', and your skills may be desperatly needed there - plus nobody can accuse you of 'anti-Lithuanian bias' as some of other people that may comment there :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd like to know, how many last warnings will the unashamed anti-Baltic soapboxer Roobit still be offered? Could you please intervene yourself, because I see you have dealt with the issue before?193.40.5.245 11:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Piotrus
Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Requests for arbitration/Piotrus. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Piotrus/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Piotrus/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (Talk) 20:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Page?
I was trying to look up Jason Tyne and was told he had an article written about him. What happened to it? --Willy the Wildcat 00:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay - since this is my first time trying to make a Wikipedia entry, and within minutes of starting the thing you deleted it, I've gotta ask: How is a person supposed to build up an entry when you go ahead and delete it within minutes? I don't understand. I am trying to make a contribution, and you went ahead and deleted it before it even had a chance. Very disappointing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultraist (talk • contribs)

TINKLECOMM Mail
You really need to restore my article called TINKLECOMM Mail. I dont appreciate you suggesting to delete it because I did everything that was supposed to be done in order for it to be in "Wikipedia standards." --Muriness 01:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, you go look at the deletion page, If you acually took the time to look at it and then compare it to another similar article you would have seen that it was in the wikipedia standard. See you administratiors get a little power and it goes all to your heads! Now Renata3, Im asking nicely for you to restore the page and to LOOK at it and COMPARE it to another similar page such as Yahoo Mail or AIM mail. --Muriness 01:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Please restore my article called "TINKLECOMM Mail". Im pratically begging now. I do not want to start everything over from scratch. thanks. --Muriness 14:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I looked at the page and its not helping. Can you please just do me that favor of restoring my page please. Like I stated before, I really dont want to restart the article again. --Muriness 02:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Not WP:RM
Okay, okay. I understand the Community Portal is not WP:RM. However, the problem with the discussion (it's technically not a move request, although it looks like one) is that it is not getting opinion from the general community. As you may see, many of the editors are Arabic-language speakers (or Arabs) or Farsi-language speakers (or Persians). Clearly, that's not representative of the entire community. I'll file an RfC instead, but do you have any other ideas (since you obviously disapprove of the use of Community Portal)? --  tariq abjotu  21:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Martynas Bendorius
Hello, I wonder why his biography, photo etc. were deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Becky748 (talk • contribs)

88.119.20.192 19:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Martynas Bendorius He is a creative professional, I see no reason to delete the thread about him, do you?

Unspecified source for Image:Hk22.png
The original uploader of the image is Arbiteroftruth; I only converted it to PNG from the original GIF. Just asked them about this image. --Fibonacci 04:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Olympics prod
Hi,

you removed the prod from Lithuania at the 1928 Summer Olympics. Since the article only says that Lithuania was there, it really isn't much of an article. However, you are correct that it is part of a series. I will put the batch (those for teams that won nothing) up for afd in the next few days. When I do so, I will alert you here, as you've shown an interest. Jd2718 20:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image tag
I have issue with this part of the license - "The image's REPRODUCTION, without the Artist's signed license, IS EXPLICITLY FORBIDEN in the following cases: a) Production of copies (such as posters, post-cards, art - albums in printed or electronic form) for the purpose of selling them for profit. b) Use of the image for whatever commercial advertisement purposes." Unfortunately, Wikipedia allows mirroring and forking of its content for any use, including potential commercial uses, so one of our image speedy deletion criteria is that an image cannot be released under such a license. (ESkog)(Talk) 03:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I see what you're saying. I think I was wrong on this one. Thanks for keeping me honest. (ESkog)(Talk) 03:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ethnographic village
Would you consider creating an article explaining the term ? I would but I do not have enough knowledge on the subject. --Lysytalk 19:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Šušvė
Hello, Renata! I created article about Šušvė. Can you edit grammar of the article? My English level isn't so good to write articles in English Wikipedia. Thank you! Regards, Hugo.arg 12:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Baltic porter
Hello. I have reverted your redirect. I believe it merits its own article. I mean, it's a good idea to include info on the "parent" article, but I don't agree with the redirect. Let me know if you still disagree. Renata 16:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch. I can see how someone might consider the redirect odd at first glance. However, if you note, the Baltic porter article consists of one paragraph, one picture, and a list of beers. The beers are random and non-notable. Such lists are commonly frowned upon and removed from articles. When the list is removed the article is simply a stub. When there is more information that may be the time to consider splitting it off from the main article and creating a stand alone article. As you are probably aware, Baltic porter is stout. The place to discuss it is in the general article on stout, and it is helpful to a reader who is looking for information on Baltic porter to be directed to the article on stout where Baltic porter can be discussed in context. I would direct your attention to Irish stout, Imperial Stout, Milk stout, Oatmeal stout, Chocolate stout and Oyster stout, all of which have been accepted into the main article. There has been some discussion on these merges, see Talk:Stout. I accept your concern, and am grateful to you for letting me know what you have done. There are always alternative views, and it's good to hear what other readers and editors are thinking. My own view is that Baltic porter could have its own article, but it's just not ready at the moment. However, that is only my view - if I haven't managed to convince you and would like to get a wider view then please raise the matter on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beer. Regards SilkTork 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Mindaugas
Why was my entry to the Mindaugas page deleted instantly? The informatio was correct.

Charles.

Slander
Now that you finally returned to Wikipedia, how about finally presenting evidence for your accusations - or an apology for your slandering my good name and for your unprovoked offences? It's been over 9 months now and I'm still waiting.  // Halibutt 04:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Culture of Lithuania
Hello. I was planning to do some work on the abovementioned article, and I came across this odd caption in Lithuania: "A sculpture of angel — a symbol of tongue-in-cheek Republic at Užupis, Vilnius."  Any idea what that's meant to be saying? I can't make heads nor tails of it, and at least one other person has commented about it.

Also, if you have any brief advice for Culture of Lithuania, feel free to drop me a note! (You offered as such on the Reward Board.)

-- Grey Knight  ⊖  16:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I rewrote the caption, now to work on the hard bit :-) I've been trying to track down images (or even the blazons) of the missing city coats of arms too, but no luck so far.  -- Grey Knight   ⊖  17:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * After discussion with User:Alekjds, I decided to change both the caption and the entire Užupis article. Thoughts are welcome! -- tiny plastic Grey Knight   ⊖  13:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Castle
There a few sources mentioning 'Santyr' but is seems also to be a mispelling; it's supposed to be a site of ancient settlement (gród) dating to at least 13th century. Polish Wikipedia does however has an article about pl:Zantyr, it was taken over by the Teutonic Order and a castle was indeed constructed there - however little archeological evidence has been found, so little that there is even no consensus where exactly the Zantyr and the castle are. If you can read Polish, see. If you'd like me to translate pl wiki article, do drop me a note.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that's a fascinating subject, I have it on my watchlist. It's also a great example of an important piece of history mostly ignored by Western research... don't you ever get the feeling that for some people, east of Odra 'there are still dragons'? :) One of my recent endavours if feeling the red links of Duchies of Silesia. There were dozens of them - and guess how many had articles on Wiki till few days ago... :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 03:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

NYC meetup
Please join us: Meetup/NYC -- Y not? 20:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Mark Brooks (comics)
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Prussian uprisings
Prussian uprisings - brilliant new article!! Wow!!! Great stuff keep up the great work ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you"   Contribs 20:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

MK
Hi, Renata. Do you know that Fred Bauder suggested to ban M.K. for a year from Lithuania-related topics? Since you seem to know this user much better than I do, I believe the community would appreciate your opinion on the issue. Do you think his behaviour has really been disruptive? --Ghirla-трёп- 18:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Baseless deletion of "Juce" article.
I'm livid to find that sometime in the past few weeks you've unceremoniously deleted the article about my software product, "Juce". The reason you've put down is copyright violation, which is nonsense, because I wrote all the text that was on that page.

Since there's nothing whatsoever to explain why it got deleted, nor was there any attempt to contact me first, I've no idea what actually happened. Presumably someone must have noted that the text was similar to some text on my website, (and of course it was!), so to protect me from a copyright violation by myself, it's been removed. Ridiculous.

If you could let me know whether you'll restore it, that'd be great, because otherwise I'll need to re-create it, as people do have links to the now-absent page. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianstorer (talk • contribs) 11:12, 2 July 2007

Re: Juce article being deleted
Ok, you could argue that the text wasn't suitable (which is a matter of opinion), but I'm speechless at your claim that it's not "notable" enough to be deserve a place.

Maybe you've never heard of it, but Juce is used, developed and discussed by thousands of people around the world. It's the backbone of software products that have shipped millions of copies. You might have some Juce software on your computer right now. Companies, universities, enthusiasts all use this stuff every day. It's been reviewed by major IT sites like the Register, and is linked to by countless c++/UI related sites.

And most infuriatingly, Wikipedia has dozens of articles about equivalent (and many more obscure) libraries, which seem to have escaped your mighty sword of justice.

So should I spend time posting a new, less controversial, version of the article, or will you just come along and nix it straight away?

Deletion without a useful explaination is called Censorship. Clearly, the previous page wasn't an advertisement but a introduction similar to Qt / Gtk projects. Deleting the article purely based on your own (personal) judgement without a justified reason is inadmissible. Ok, I've seen you invoke the copyright violation reason, but before invoking it, you've too verify if there is a copyright violation. It's obvious there is none, as the article author is the copyright holder of the text he has written on his own website (you don't even know if the text on his website is not from wikipedia, who knows, maybe it's time to remove all Wikipedia article that are cited elsewhere on the net).

You decided on your own that Juce library wasn't worth being considered, thus indirectly promoting Qt or Gtk projects. This is also inadmissible, as it undoubtly proves you're partial.

For that reason, you shouldn't be allowed to moderate Wikipedia. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianstorer (talk • contribs) 16:06, 2 July 2007


 * Hi Renata, I've taken the liberty of having a look over this issue, and I think this can be resolved neatly :-). I'm putting it through DRV myself, have a look there to see my reasoning.  Ye Olde Deletionne Reviewe Templatte follows!
 * An editor has asked for a deletion review of Juce. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
 * Thanks! -- tiny plastic Grey Knight  ⊖  09:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Treaty of Christburg
Hi Renata3. You are off to such a great start on the article Treaty of Christburg that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 23:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Prussian uprisings - GA nom
On the off chance you are not watching it, please see the review and requests for improvement before the GA status is awarded.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Lithuania
Thanks for correcting my articles :) I hope I'll learn to write better in English. Hugo.arg 18:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, here (in WikiProject Lithuania) is something like this Argentina-related regional notice board? Hugo.arg 18:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Ttturbo
You beat me to the reblock. Good call. Moreschi Talk 10:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Rigadoun (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Renata screen.jpg)
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Re:Review of the invasion
Thanks for your comments. Quick replies: Thanks for the comments, by all means, feel free to edit the article and comment on the FAC. I will see about addressing as many of your points as possible soon.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 11:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * it was a request by another reviewer to use notes, and the example he gave me (War against Nabis) has long notes, with citatins, too. I will fix the note with five elinks shortly.
 * I dislike cite mechanism, particularly since its very time consuming, creates a mass of wiki syntax making editing harder (which is why I argued for a separate reference namespace...) and there is no easy way to convert stuff into it.
 * Feel free to remove any information you think is non-essential. I like my articles to be as densly linked and comprehensive as possible (per WP:BTW)
 * dates and durations of battles, in chronological order, had a section in the article - it was removed because of a complain by another reviewer. Do you see a pattern? :)
 * I think the article follows chronological order?
 * Aftermath had headings (like 'Allied reaction'), they were removed because of complains they were to stubby...
 * Soviet invasion is a part of the wider Invasion article, which discusses other fights (i.e. the beginning of the Phony War with Saar Offensive) in more detail
 * Feel free to fix minor issues, and there is a native speaker editor dedicated to copy-editing working on the article, but since there is no such thing as 'one perfect style', we have both reviewers commenting on good style/copyedit and asking for more :)


 * I fixed the note with elinks and created Campaignbox Soviet invasion of Poland which I hope works better then bullet list. I think citations are relatively consistent now - cite.php for inline citations, notes split off to notes. If there are any particular confusing places with regards to chronology, let me know and I will check them out. As for subsections, I am afraid they would be considered to small by some, but you can add them - and we will see if somebody will criticize them in FAC again.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 13:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Marshall Street
I edited the Marshall Street page because I've lived here for 34 years and some of the information was inaccurate, incomplete, unorganized and spelled improperly. True, I did add some things that were left out making it "more lengthy" but it was already somewhat lengthy. If you look at the page for "Armory Square" you will see that it is twice as lengthy, yet it's been there for quite some time. Deleting the part of the page that you did keeps people from imperative information about the area and some of those establishments that were deleted have links to other pages. I undid what you did not knowing that you were an administrator. If you think that some of the information is not neccesary, please let me know which and I will modify it, but please don't just remove everything...

Copy edit
Hey, could you copy edit (and expand if needed :) ) this. As contributor who suggested to write this article is not showing up any more.M.K. 10:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)p.s. maybe you will have some ideas about this one too. M.K. 10:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you properly move this one from sandbox to main space? Btw, did it need part which starts "Charter also proclaimed:"? M.K. 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the move. M.K. 17:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Categorizing redirects
I'm interested in your thoughts about categorizing redirects. I didn't care for the practice when I first encountered it, but lately I have been including categories in some redirects when I think a particular topic can be more easily found if it is grouped among similar items. ✤ JonHarder talk 23:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible copyvio image
Hi! Even though you took the picture used in Image:Scientology Tone scale.jpg, and the Org had it right in the window, it is a picture of a copyrighted chart and that copyright doesn't just disappear. (Otherwise critics could take pictures of all the pages of upper level materials and publish them on the Internet. Somehow I doubt Scientology and the RTC would agree with that.) You might want to check the rules on Derivative work. AndroidCat 01:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum


Hello Renata3,

i found you about the project New York, and would ask you to take some photos. I wrote the article Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in the german wikipedia, which is a "Lesenswerter Article" ( i think similar to your "Good Articles" here). In the candidature there was the advice to ask the prpoject New York for better pictures of the museum. The actual picture shows the museum from the wrong point, so the "nautilus-part" of the museum isn't visible well. Do you understand my point? If you are the wrong person to ask, can you tell me another wikipedian i can ask?

Cheers Julius1990 18:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your fast repley. I should have thought about that, so thanks for your advice. Cheers Julius1990 18:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

FLC
Can anyone close an FL candidacy as long as there is consensus for it to be failed/promoted? Just wondering, as there seems to be a backlog there. RHB - Talk 19:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Tautiška giesmė
I decided to take your second bounty and I will make this article FA. I am wondering if I might have more information on the history of the anthem and maybe a section on proper protocol of the anthem (like at My Belarusy or the Mexican anthem). Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this is a law passed in 1999 with the protocol to the anthem. I can easily write a paragraph on it now, but I think I need some more information about the LtSSR and the independence period. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you much for your advice. Actually I intend to expand them. Kind regards.moon 02:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Singapore law firms
I notice that you had deleted 2 entries I added to wikipedia. What I intended was to add law firms that are actually in Singapore to the category Category:Law firms of Singapore. My plan was to add them from time to time. As it is, there is only 1 Singapore firm listed, ie Drew & Napier. If there is a better way of doing this without violating any policies, I will welcome suggestions and advice. --Aseanhunter 07:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

House of Gediminas, etc.
Hi Renata, hope your GMAT studies are going well. Re the House, hmmm, the shameless part of the request was the flattery. It will be a day or three tho, will leave notes at the talk page. Take care, Novickas 12:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Done with it for now, needs other eyes, hope you like. Novickas 14:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC) See before it goes away! Novickas 22:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, is it time for this action-packed saga of the North, overflowing with intrigue, love, violence, sex, sin, and citations thereof, to be nomimated as a GA? Novickas 13:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Favor? In GA review article it suggests that we review and try to improve some other GA candidate. I picked Cheddar Gorge; could you take a brief look at it and see if anything still jumps out at you? Methinks the troublesome statements about largest, etc. have been referenced. Best, Novickas 20:22, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Dang. At least it has references now. Thanks for your time, Novickas 11:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe then you have more time, you will suggest some improvements to this one, especially naming it. M.K. 20:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Seyeds
Why did you delete Seyeds? Picaroon (t) 03:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Anthem
Hi, bad news... I cannot dig up any new info on the topic. Somehow Lithuanians don't seem to like their song :) Renata 03:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That stinks. Anyways, I am thinking we can add the national law from 1999 in the article and see what happens after that. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Question
I would like to create an article about the "Magna Charta of European Universities", which has been signed by over 400 of these. It doesn't appear in the WP Magna Carta disambig entries, AFAIK it's not on WP. The question is, can I insert the text of the original 1988 declaration (at ) or does that have to go to Wikisource and NOT be included in its entirety in the article? If you could point me to similar situations that would help. Best, Novickas 14:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Negėjus neateistas
Labas, siūlau užblokuoti naudotoją Pionier, nes tai yra tas pats žr skyrelio pavadinimą bei žr category:Lithuanian atheists :) Ar čia ok teirautis lietuviškai, ar reikia išversti į anglų kalbą? --Katoa 15:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC) (Mea) (remark about a vandal)

User:87.74.46.129
Thanks for cleaning up this user's mess. He seems to be promoting an agenda, and in any case his categorizations are unjustifed. I suspect he'll be persistent. The same editor was previously using 87.74.5.175. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Livonian Confederation map
Thanks for fixing the location of Ascherbaden on the Image:Confederation of Livonia 1260.svg map, Renata. It was entirely my error. Nice to know there's support out there when I'm away. MapMaster 00:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Kissy Road Church of the Holy Trinity
Non-notable churches are speedied all the time. Do we really have to go through AfD which will take 5 days to get this deleted? Corvus cornix 18:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What gives you the idea that churches are inherently notable? Where is that policy, or that consensus, for that matter, established?  Church articles get deleted all the time.  Corvus cornix 18:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

tendentious categorizing
Hi, Renata3. So I see the anon vandal has resumed adding bio articles to the categories "Jewish Communists" and "Jewish Atheists". I note, though, that several of these articles were already subject to this kind of tendentious categorizing. Absent demonstrated relevance to the person's bio, I'm generally opposed to including people in these categories -- quite frankly I'd be just as happy if the categories disappeared, as some sort of repellent implication is almost always hovering somewhere nearby ("Look: another Jewish communist/atheist! See, I told you!"). How would you feel if I removed these categories from bio articles where no relevance has been demonstrated? --Rrburke(talk) 17:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My criterion would be: if the person's atheism, for example, is not mentioned in the body of the article, then it's not a sufficiently important aspect of what they are known for to justify adding them into the category. Of course, it's also unsourced and unverifiable.  While it's obviously relevant (and verifiable) in connection with the article on Ellen Johnson, it's utterly irrelevant to the article on Seth Green.


 * As for the category Jewish Communists, there's currently one member, so I may just go ahead and nominate it to CFD.


 * Sound reasonable? --Rrburke(talk) 20:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Renata: further to our recent discussion. --Rrburke(talk) 14:58, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

GMAT
Good luck with your preparations for the GMAT (and thanks for keeping an eye on Ernest Mandel. Are you intending to apply for an MBA? Let me know if I can help. I am an alumnus who interviews MBA candidates at London Business School. --Duncan 14:08, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Back to the old school sounds very holistic. Don't be put off by LBS fees through: that high tuition also supports big scholarships for qualified candidates. Also, the earnings at the end are far greater than almost anywhere else, making it an excellent investment. --Duncan 19:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Piotrus
The above case is closed. A general amnesty for editors involved in Eastern Europe-related articles is extended, with the expectation that further editing will adhere to Wikipedia's policies. Future behavior problems may be addressed by the Arbitration Committee on the motion of any Arbitrator or upon acceptance of a request for inquiry by any user who edits in this area. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 19:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Renata hello
Andropov was Jewish, so please don't delete him from his Jewish categories. P.S. Could you exaplain me the case with Pioner/Mohel/Rabis juice? Because he took it as a hoby there to delete him from those categories. And as i understood from him writing you in the Andropov article history page ("Evil Renata 3 have u ever sniffed bleeding penis cut off by mohel?") I understand theres a war beetwen you. M.V.E.i. 18:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok i understood
P.S. You can answer here on your talk page i would come and see.

I'm not an administrator so i cant block or unblock people. So let me understand this right, he wants attention so he on purpouse makes not-good edits? But it started somehow, what was exaclly on the Lithuenian Wikipedia? About what was he arguing, what was decided by the administrators? M.V.E.i. 18:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You see, theres no chance that a man will respect an eternal block, maybe thats why he behaves this way. Maybe he was wrongly treated or maybe he had not more fault in the fight then then the other side but only he got punished? I think it's importent to figure these out and if, if we will find out that he was mistreated we could start a dialogue with him and then reduce his block. M.V.E.i. 13:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Adygea
Hi, Renata! Seeing that you were the one who virtually forced me to re-write administrative and municipal divisions of Adygea to include more narrative :), I would very much appreciate your input here&mdash;people are arguing that since the "list" is so much like an article now, it should be de-featured altogether. Obviously, I'd love to see it retain its status... hopefully without putting even more work into it.  Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, who else can I blame? :) Regarding your comment, though: I think folks are not advocating to remove all the narrative from the list but rather outsource it to other places (to which links will be provided from within the list).  So, if the difference between rural settlements and rural locilities puzzles you, you'd still be able to find the information you need by following the links.  Anyway, I, for one, think keeping the narrative in is a good idea (a remarkable change in my position from back when you suggested more narrative in the first place, I know :)), not in a small part because there are currently no good places to outsource it to (I'd have to write a dozen new articles first, which I am planning to do eventually, but just not now).  In any case, thanks for your comment!  If you could keep an eye on the discussion until it closes, I'd much appreciate it.  Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Test of sig bot
Should probably break down and use the signature feature, in the meantime this is a test. Also, am stalled on new LT article ideas, got copyedit suggestions? And do you agree with "List of signatories to the Act of Independence of Lithuania" as a title? It's languishing kalėjimoje, awaiting your judicial decision. Novickas 11:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The bot is bugging me again! Has anyone else complained? Novickas 16:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * ...Sigh...changed the signature preference. Thanks for the info. Also, I know it's really picky, but could you please do me a favour and change "signatories of" to "signatories to"? Three ofs in one sentence is too many. Novickas 17:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Answer
I just know the feeling of being indifinetly blocked, esspecially when you belive you dont deserve it, you loose your temper really it's really a bad feeling. It happened to me to, till an honest administrator, Alex Bakharev, helped me there and reduced my block. So thats why i want to figure thess out. If he belives it wad not fair what was done to him there we could understand him and open a dialogue and maybe even reduce his block. Thats why i asked you over what and with who he was fighting there and how did the administrators behave. M.V.E.i. 20:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Playing around
Whaddya think --Lokyz 23:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Sovietsky pioneer possible sock puppet of idef blocked User:Poor billionaire
Based on a bunch of edits such as [this.] Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  14:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Compliment
Great job on translating/creating/referencing Great Seimas of Vilnius in such a short time! :) The female delegates - could be a DKY hook if you're so inclined, altho more references for that would be good. Some comments on its talk page soon. Novickas 16:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Great job on expansion too. Novickas 16:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I would lean towards "Ban on the Lithuanian language". Strangely there aren't, as far as I can tell, any other WP articles on such bans. Maybe Irpen will write one about Ukrainian, hint hint. Hawaiian was banned too. And probably numerous others. Happy hunting! Novickas 17:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I see what you mean. Problem is all the other titles I can think of are quite wordy. "Ban on publication in the Lithuanian language". Speaking of articles - don't want to leave out the the. (Sometimes concision and clear description are in conflict). Other ideas - "Lithuanian press ban" sounds OK, except that it might be interpreted as newspapers instead of EVERYTHING. But surely, before you finish writing the article, more ideas will come. Novickas 18:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page about Chicago rapper Pretty Dollarz?
I want to add more to the page but it is not there anymore. Please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramb0723 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello Renata3,

Thanks for cleaning up the changes made to my User Page. Much appreciated. Keep up the good work and I suppose I'll try to do the same eh? :) Pursey 06:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikisource article Act of Independence of Lithuania
Could you please explain the copyright status of this article while being proposed for deletion?--Jusjih 12:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)(Wikipedia and Wikisource admin)

Army Groups of the National Revolutionary Army
I have converted the article to use inline citations, please take a look. -- Миборовский 03:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

List of educational institutions in Taichung
I have taken your comments seriously and have implemented them (or are in the process of implementing.) I have requested a withdrawal of the nomination while I work on the page. Please feel free to leave additional comments on the talk page while I work to bring the list to FL sniff. Thanks. ludahai 魯大海 13:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Leaving
I find your comment on Halibutt's page highly unprofessional and uncivil; please consider removing it. You yourself once 'left' and then only reluctantly came back, should we ask you for all the details of that surely not-very-nice experience? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There where times when I (or Halibutt) would have cared about that. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Renata, please allow me to comment on both issues here. About "leaving". I believe in quiet leaving. I don't believe that widely-announced attention-seeking "leaves" are genuine, while they are excusable. I've seen some very respected by me editors (including you) who both "left" and left that way. Some of such leaves were genuine, most were not, but all of them were signs of a huge frustration. Committed editors who show such a huge frustration need to be left alone or with words of support. I don't like "are you still here?" stuff. Whether to leave quietly, is a matter of taste, of course, and self-discipline. Personally, when I found myself in the cross-hairs of Piotrus' extensive and meticulous months-long digging aimed at collecting the material to hit me at the opportune time, I decided for myself that I simply had it. I did not edit for about 6 weeks, I believe, but I just stopped editing, no "damn you, Piotrus, goodbye's" came from my end. I think that Halibutt should be left alone by his opponents and allowed to be consoled by messages from his fans and his friends.


 * As for the second issue (Fedorovych), this was explained at the article's talk and agrees with all sources. Ukrainians rose not against some "Commonwealth" or some "Polish-Lithuanians", the concept unfamiliar to them in its entirety. Justly or not, they so their oppressors as "just Poles" and they saw Unia and Catholicism that enroached on their Orthodox ways as "Polish encroachment", despite the Polish peasantry was in no better condition than the Ukrainian ones, of course. I reverted the edit per this as well as all sources used to write the article. None of them uses "Commonwealth" or "Lithuania" for that matter. --Irpen 02:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You didn't have the balls to apologize for the unhonourable slander on your side or to present a single piece of evidence to back your absurd accusations and your lies about my behaviour. Your farewell letters were both offensive and unjust - and I bet you know it, yet you simply did not have the guts to admit it. Yet now it is you to ask me to leave without taking the liberty to explain my stance? Good going, Renata! Keep it up, that's precisely the way to go. Hope you'll find yourself in a situation similar to mine one day.  // Halibutt 11:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Guys, cool it down. Pointing fingers doesn't help, period. File a DR if you want, or leave it (the issue, not the project). Further, I strongly suggest looking at talk page correspondence between two users as private: if you were not invited, don't join in - and you can be certain it will be much less likely to spill further. PS. That comment applies to all of users who commented on that on several userpages. PSS. Renata, I agree that Halibutt's occasional generalization on "Lithuanians" is unhelpful, but he has a point - several of the most active Lithuanian editors don't seem to assume any good faith when it comes to dealing with Polish editors, to say the least. I tried to address this in the past, but now I have given up - and I have no plans to restart the issue. I can only wish for more Lithuanian editors to come join the project, as I cannot believe the current selection is representative, nor that it does justice to the great Lithuanian people.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Polish editors or single Polish editor that is the question. Violation of WP:AGF or violation of Wikipedia rules (like WP:RM) is another. POV bashing or contributions is a third. Generalization or research - that means specific, but by no means selective details is fourth.Knowing the subject or googling on occasion is fifth. And please WP:AGF - I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm not pointing a finger at anyone, I'm not using metaphors - I'm just asking direct questions.--Lokyz 20:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, where did I join in without invitation and atagonized the discutants? My apologies for any diff that indicate that happened.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Right above Piotrus. Just look one message up by you dated 20:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC). Real strange twist. --Irpen 20:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * And speaking more of joyful (and uninvited) comments by the same editor, this time celebrating another editor's forced leave at the third user's talk page. --Irpen 17:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
I see one of the wheeled Willies played with your page. Just think what were the chances that out of millions of wp pages he would end up at yours and rejoice! --Irpen 20:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The account was already blocked, so it should be all cleaned-up now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, I just wanted to point out how minuscule are the chances of an individual userpage to be attended by the Willies. I had my page vandalized by trolls, penis-vandals or content opponents but never had an honor to be visited by the Willies. Renata kind of hit the jackpot. With such luck, she should try a short trip to Vegas. --Irpen 21:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, I still think that this is better: you know, personalized ;) Renata 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

HoG
Hello, as I noted on article, maybe it is time for this article to be nominated for FAC? M.K. 11:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * And Great Seimas for GA? Novickas 14:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

As for some reason you are not answering to the question above, I made a decisive actions and nominated this article. I hope you will have time to answer questions (if any will be presented). Take care, M.K. 21:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:LITH welcome
Just out of recent curiosity into templates and various boxes I modified old Lithuania Portal welcome message User:Lokyz/sandbox/test. Maybe you'll be interested to take a look, and improve it. We could use it as WP:LITH welcome message.--Lokyz 16:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Polish minority in Lithuania
Could you take a look at the recent changes? It seems we are revert warring over some style and grammar issue, for all things... I dislike being called a vandal, but I also dislike editors enforcing poor English "plundered organizations..." etc. Could you merge the two versions, endorse one, or something - I would hope your edit would end this sad bickering.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Tautiška giesmė again
I decide to expand on the article, added some sources again. I just need that 1999 law translated. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Article: (relatively, as always) done editing
Comments? Novickas 01:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Prussian Crusade
I added Prussian Crusade; please expand with your sources if you are interested. Cheers, Olessi 23:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bitwa pod Orszą-MNW.jpg
WOW! Please provide source of this fine reproduction! A.J. 10:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Ensete picture
I noticed that you thoughtfully added a picture to Ensete. Unfortunately, it seems that the image name was accidentally misspelled when uploaded: "Image:Esente superbum.jpg" (link: ). I requested a move, but I guess copyright issues requre that you reload the image to make a correction. Just thought you'd want to know. ENeville 21:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Prussian people
You might be interested in this CFD. Olessi 21:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Tautiška giesmė GA
I found out this morning that Tautiška giesmė passed Good Article today. I was told to find out more about the Soviet-era anthem and it could be FA ready. Your thoughts? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Once again, Bloomfield
We are once again cleaning up Bloomfield's messes, see Articles for deletion/Principality of Estland and Articles for deletion/Sackalia (some others fixed w/o AfD) - but also Articles for deletion/Narova. You have most expirience with Bloomfield's socks, could User:Olgerd be his sock as well? -- Sander Säde  08:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)