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Tobacco BY-2
Hi Reo! Together, we're making great progress on that article, I think. Your recent additions have gone a long way towards making it less technical and easier to understand for a layperson. Keep adding information, and I'll keep organizing it! Fernando Rizo 3 July 2005 23:02 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your trust. :o)) I will try to support it further, but I am forced now to state here, that during this summer I will have very litle ocassions for any other cotributions. (I will be not in touch with Internet). So, I can only look forward for cooperation in future. Again - thanks.--Reo On 4 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)


 * Reo, it's a pity that you won't be making more contributions this summer, but I look forward to more collaborations with you in the future. I'm going to digest what you wrote on my talk page today, and I'll use the knowledge of that to further improve the BY-2 article. Cheers, Fernando Rizo 4 July 2005 20:12 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I wish you nice time. Cheers! --Reo On 5 July 2005 00:00 (UTC)


 * Reo, I hope you haven't left yet. Sorry it took me so long to get back to the BY-2 article, but I've done some work on its readability and I was hoping you could fact-check it for me to make sure I didn't write anything untrue in there. As always, I'm enjoying our collaboration. Fernando Rizo 8 July 2005 17:42 (UTC)

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Auxin
Reo, I'm going to have a good deal of free time this upcoming week because I just (coincidentally) finished a biology class that I was taking over the summer at my college. I'm going to tackle the Auxin article then. Hope to see you around in the next few days. Fernando Rizo T/C 00:47, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Stubs
Hello,

Thank you for your stub submission. You may wish to note that it is preferable to use a stub template from WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types instead of using simply, if you can.

Thanks!

Anguis 01:01, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Protein purification is Science Collab of the Week
Samsara contrib talk 00:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information  R eo   ON   |   + + +  00:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Firefly ID
Hey, I saw your picture in the firefly article. Are you SURE you identified it correctly? If you search for "Lampyris noctiluca" in google images, you get black glow worms that don't look all that much like the one on the picture. Are they in different instars or something?--TheAlphaWolf 22:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That is not my picture, in fact that picture is absolutely unrelated to me. The only relation is that I liked that photo and placed it in my user page.


 * With litlle searching I've found that de:Benutzer:Wofl should be adressed instead of me. He is the autor of that picture and of the IDeing of that insect. Have a good time..  R eo   ON   |   + + +  19:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, *cough* sorry :P You were the only user linked from the picture, and I assumed the author would have had it in their page. Thanks for telling me who the real author is! --TheAlphaWolf 02:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

AID
-Litefantastic 00:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

 * Wonderfull! Weell, I am very pleased by this delivery. Great format, meaningfull content. Thank you.  R eo   ON   |   + + +  20:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

barbara's cathedral
Hi. it is a problem. I posted this here as well as in the german wiki. In German there is a possibility - I think- toname it in proper way, the have the word DOM, instead of Cathedral. But it seems to be a problem in English, see DOM. -jkb- 18:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

search box
Hi, i just noticed (from the history) you tried to add a response to the archived "Highlight search box" thread. Just wanted to let you know, that it is being discussed at Village_pump_%28proposals%29 now. Please come give feedback there. Much thanks :) --Quiddity 21:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikics template
Hi Reo On! Recently, I created a new template to indicate English Wikipedia users who also contribute to the Czech Wikipedia.

Template:User wikics

Feel free to add it to your userboxes if you like it. Happy Easter. Daniel Šebesta (talk • contribs) 22:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I will. Good idea, good job :).  R eo   ON   |   + + +  13:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Articles for deletion/OITC fraud (Posted by unsigned Reo On)

Old Skool Esperanzial note
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Current Events for Europe
Well, good approach! I have to say... But why I do miss here the European affairs? Do they have no importance? They IMO have! I thinks so, that just a really huge proportion of Wikipedia contributors are from Europe (just the second batch after those from USA) and it is IMO really worthy to have the division for Europe events ... something like Current events in Europe. I would like to see it in the header even if it would be red link for some time. (I propose it would'nt be red for long time, I propose that people would take care about it quite quickly).  R eo   ON   |   + + +  12:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, you can create Portal:Current events/Europe and maintain the current events for Europe there. In fact, that would be ideal. However, if you do do that, it would be nice if you maintain some of the format from the main Portal:Current events page. If you need help with anything, you can always contact me or perhaps some of the other regular editors to the portal. Once there is some page set up, the link can most certainly be added. As for those other regional pages, I may have to do better when it comes to bringing their attention to the switch to portalspace. -- joturn e r 12:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for very quick reply. I would like to be involved in it, but as far as I understand my position in the reall world, I see I am really not the proper person for it .... becouse of the lack of time (I am working at research and now I am in fact almost really not able to find several hours monthly even for czech Wikipedia, where I was log time contributor (even persuaded to take my part in RfA there.. :o)) ). But I regret this, otherwise I would like to join you to work on it. Now I am in touch with Wikipedia usually only with this, that my browser opens on the (yours :o) page User:Joturner/Current Events Portal Redesign and those informations are the news from the world (I need to have some litle general knowlidge) and the Wikipedia background combined :o) (I was used to to be in touch with Wikipedia projekts). Sorry, well have good time and ... you are doing very good job. With regards  R eo   ON   |   + + +  15:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Auxin
Glad you agree with the edits. There is probably a lot more in there too, but those are the ones that realy stood out. I might have a bash at copy editing more later. I have it on my watch list now so I will notice, and support, any other similar edits you make. Thanks for the compliment :) David D. (Talk) 18:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I entirely agree with you, that those deleted was the one most standing out. Generaly I would like maybe delete or at least enirely remake whole section Effects and before your edits I had the same opinion on section Location, ... now I am somewhat more neutral in that point :o). Well in fact Auxins are still in much bettter shape than for example cytokinins. And taken together there is still lot of work left to be made. So I became to be a little fatalistic, pre-defeated (or how to expess that feeling) or simply maybe a bit lazy to work on it, only in one person (as I´v got lot of work in my lab and my written english is simply still not as good as it should be..) So if you would like to make me a company, it would be possibly very encouraging for me. Have a good time  R eo   ON   |   + + +  19:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help out. It could be a great article. David D. (Talk) 20:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/In many languages...
Thank you for the Czech translation and other tweaks -- Cat out 00:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Languages
Hi Reo on! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!!  Abdullah Geelah 15:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you try to translate my name in the Limburgish language as well! please. Pass the message on that I'd people to translate my name and post it Here.Abdullah Geelah 16:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I really would like to :-). But I unfortunatelly do not know a single word in Limburgish. (See my babylon templates). I did my best with czech language and that is the only language where I can help you out. Good luck and good mood be with you! :)  R eo   ON   |   + + +  17:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Huddersfield Town F.C.
Many thanks indeed for sorting the managers' table. BlueValour 21:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * ;-) You are welcome. Have a nice time.  R eo   ON   |   + + +  21:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
– ClockworkSoul 22:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
– ClockworkSoul 21:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

One more vote for the coordinator of the Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject
Since two of the three editors nominated for Coordinator of the MCB Wikiproject declined their nominations, one more vote has been posted: should the remaining nominee, ClockworkSoul, be named as the coordinator, or should nominations be reopened? Every opinion counts, so please vote! – ClockworkSoul 17:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Cell nucleus image?
Awhile ago, you had posted on Talk:Cell nucleus that you might be able to get an image of a cell nucleus to better illustrate the article. Were you able to take a picture and upload it? IMO that's pretty much the only thing the article is definitely missing at this point. Thanks! Opabinia regalis 02:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This month's winner is proteasome!
– ClockworkSoul 22:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV
You asked, I s'pose, so yes, just the right place, and that was a perfect report. :) Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Luna Santin 20:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That is nice to read! Thanks a lot for your interest :), from now I will know.  R  eo   ON   |   + + +  20:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And Luna just got the block in before me for that IP, and I too wanted to commend you on an excellent report :D. M a rtinp23 20:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * :)  R eo   ON   |   + + +  20:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

This month's winner is RNA interference!
– ClockworkSoul 14:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Aloha
Hey there, Reo, good to see your name again. I'm just around a little bit these days. I've got plenty of real-life stuff to do, but working around here is a stress reliever for me, somehow. A Train take the 15:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * :) Nice! That is the way, how it is suppossed to be! Wish you good time  R eo   ON   |   + + +  22:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Serial page-blanker still at work == ==

71.250.218.196 is still blanking wikipedia pages despite warnings from yourself and other admins. Can anything be done? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.202.55.132 (talk) 21:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Thank you for the notice, I will have a look.  R eo   ON   |   + + +  21:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S: I am not (and I don't to be for it) an admin :)

I prepared this:




 * - Vandalises repeatedly within week, repeatedly obtaining test's. While it is from proxy let is more then schoolblock. There are not positive edits from other users at all. {~



Next time he vandalizes, I will use it on Administrator intervention against vandalism - or you can  R eo   ON   |   + + +  22:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Another 5 pages were vandalized today (Jan 10). I'll report it to WP:AIV

cell (biology) & other cats
Hi Reo On -- thanks for uncatting that. I was a bit aggressive in diffusing! Please fix any other over-diffusions you see. Best --lquilter 02:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * :) OK, that is it and I see that you see it now... that important topics should remain stil in the main categories. I may have a look in the others, nevertheless I do not feel any strong need, as I do trust in your understanding now. Have a good time.  R eo   ON   |   + + +  02:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

This month's MCB Collaboration of the Month article is Peripheral membrane protein!
– ClockworkSoul 18:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Your question at meta:Help_talk:Printable regarding wikilinks on non-printable pages
Hi Reo On. You posted a question some time ago at meta:Help_talk:Printable, asking how to make wikilinks visible (as links) on the printable version of pages as well. You can edit (or create) your monobook.css (for Wikipedia Czech), or your monobook.css (for Wikipedia English), and add:

...assuming you use the default Monobook skin. If you're willing to live with it, this will underline all wikilinks on the non-printable version of pages, but also on the printable versions. Hope this helps! —Xhantar Talk
 * This is great. Thank you really very much. It helps a lot. I did'nt expect any solution. This I can do. Thanks again  R  eo   ON   |   + + +  22:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Budvar
I appreciate your comment regarding Budvar. I admit, I misread the article about the EU court case ( http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/czech-budvar-says-eu-budweiser/story.aspx?guid=%7B0373D79A-EB23-47C2-A0A1-ECE7A6729DB7%7D ). I see now that this only applies to non-beer items. I hope the article can be edited to clarify exactly where Budvar has copyrights over Budweiser.
 * Thanks for your open approach. :-) Have a nice day  R eo   ON   |   + + +  17:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

T-DNA
I saw you had voted for T-DNA as MCB collaboration of the month back in 2006. I started an article in place of the redirect, so just wanted to let you know in case you want to get involved. Thanks! - tameeria (talk) 18:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank You, I see, that You did really good job :). I do not know whether I ever will find again enaugh time to reasonably contribute to Wikipedia in future, but I will keep the T-DNA in my watchlist :). Have a nice time.  R eo   ON   |   + + +  17:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Frankfurt motor show and IAA disambiguation
Hi Reo On,

thanks for contacting me regarding your trouble with the redirection of IAA to the Frankfurt motor show page. I think that we both agree that it is good practice that in case of abbreviations the page should directly go to that one particular article of the most common understanding. At the start of that article should be a lead to find other meanings on a disambiguation page. For example, the page USA directly goes to the article of the United States and gives various leads to other meanings by stating links to disambiguation pages.

Exactly that is the case with the IAA leading to the Frankfurt motor show page as well. So, we hopefully just disagree on whether or not the Frankfurt motor show should be that particular page that shows up for the IAA abbreviation.

Well, the Frankfurt motor show is the world’s largest motor show. To the average reader that is most likely to be of much more relevance than the substance Indole acetic acid, although the later is surely of high importance in chemistry and biology. As you used quantitative arguments as well, please take into account that the International Automobil-Aussstellung has different spelling variants, which must be taken into account as well. If you would just take the hyphen and compound variants in as well, I did come up with more than 800,000 hits in Google for these terms. Compared to the 215,000 hits for Indole acetic acid, that is almost 4 times more, and I didn't even systematically include all permutations here.

So, in total, I really think it's fair to keep the redirection of IAA to the Frankfurt motor show – and to keep the hint to the other meanings of IAA in the top of that article to easily allow readers interested in other meanings of that abbreviation to follow on.

Cheers, MikeZ (talk) 12:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've commented at User talk:Michael Zimmermann. PamD (talk) 19:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Although I listed this at WP:RM as a "potentially controversial" request, an admin has already made the requested move! So that's sorted.  PamD (talk) 07:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank You both for taking care about the isue. I see the solution fit.
 * (@Michael - as you wrote on what we would agree - we definitely would agree :), thank you for your appoach and civil tone :). Only a note: indole acetic acid has also many hyphenated versions, most importantly Indole-3-acetic acid (over 400 000 hits) or Indolyl-acetic acid .. but that was not of my concern, I didn't want to show that this compounds has more hits than the motoshow, but that the famous motoshow has no substancial lead to be considered the primery use of IAA abbreviation and espetially not in english-speaking environment)
 * Have a good time both of you :).  R eo   ON   |   + + +  21:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi. I see you're transcluding your signature from a page in your userpage. Transcluding signatures are forbidden by WP:SIG because they are a target for vandals, they are a drain on server resources and because they are often used to circumvent the character limit in your preferences. Thus, I would ask you to put the code for your signature into the box in your preferences and alter it to fit if need be. Once you have, I will protect the page from which your signature is transcluded so it can't be vandalised. Best, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   21:18, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi. You are right, the rule is clear and I see the reasons sound. I did change the subscription in the preferences. The protection might had been benefitial even before, I didn't change the content of the sig subpage for years, there was no reason to keep changing it.
 * Well it is bit embarrassing, that I didn't comply with SIG, but it's probably due the fact, I am rather old-timer here, I was more active in the past and it wasn't of such concern then. I didn't like to put long line of characters in every talk, it messed the source code, so I invented this shorter way for the subs for myself. I should have cease it long time ago. So now, its over and it might be good, if some robot would replace my old teplate-like signs with the new markup-one. I had cut down unnecessary links and shortened the signature. Even this might be an improvement. I hope, You might even like it more too :). I am just curious, how cluttering it will be, how long the markup will appear. I will see it just now.


 * With the IAR - thank You for the reply. I feel that any other response there (AfD), would be off-topic and not helpful for the decission there, but it seems to me that I do understand the meaning generally the same way You understand it. There is difference is in something else for sure, (in the beneficialness in this particular case -see bellow), but some outlook on IAR philosophy might differ little too? Not sure.
 * In my words: If IAR is applied it must be such a way that it will not be just plain excuse for not applying the corresponding rule, guide. The criterion IMHO is, that not applying the (ignored) rule must help to improve encyclopedia in that particular case. But that is of course a trap, everyone could just claim so. Even in a case of untainted good faith it is just highly subjective position - the claim that to not follow particular rule would be beneficiary. That 1) makes from IAR something, what should be normally avoided. And if 2) applied, the proponent is really expected to defend the necessity/beneficity of ignoring the rule in that case, expected to describe the benefits of that approach for building an encyclopedic content and expected that he will gain a consensus from others - that it really is fitting for that particular case, that it is in the end the best way to preserve or build encyclopedia. Well according to the COMMON sense it is worded like: "cite Wikipedia:Ignore all rules and explain why doing so will improve Wikipedia in that instance" The more the proponent is going against the spirit of the rule, and against the original meaning of it, the less likely such an action may probably be beneficiary and less likely is he to gain consensus.
 * Looking at the wording of IAR, it is just short and it's meaning is not that narrowed. As such, IAR is kind of subject of COMMONSENSE in its own right. As such, it is well inside limits to say it's for special cases that aren't accounted for by the rules as written, and well I do think it even is matter of oral tradition for usage of IAR this way too .... but it is not entirely restricted to that meaning. The pure wording of IAR is just placing emphasis on what is good for encyclopedia alone. Even when I had reread all the other essays on IAR, it does not restrict it in this way.


 * Where I differ, is the point what I thought, is the good step for the encyclopedia and project. And at the same time I did not think that NOTNEWS was written with very similar circumstances in mind. And that is the basis of the difference. With all the respect, I do differ here. I simply do not see state visit of such magnitude as trivial or routine news. For me the visit was on the edge of notability right at that moment already. And I saw it good to wait how it will develop and judge it accordingly. (I didn't know about BREAKING or DEADLINE but I was working just in the meaning of it, so appealing just to commonsense and IAR) I wouldn't assume this stance without seeing this to be bit special case, clearly not one of the circumstances in the mind (notnews). For I do not think, that there is more of such state visits in the world of such importance than few in decade (its not like any state visit may be compared), seeing reports on it everywhere here  (just like those translated here:) just support it. That was my underlying view. But anyway, there was no one else to think the same way on the AfD page, and thats clearly the limit of it. I was clearly far from persuading anyone about the benefit of IAR (or anything else). I can not argue, and I do not, on the IAR in this particular case here. The application of IAR require that the particular IAR application would help Wikipedia and if I didn't persuade anyone about it, then it's over. But I do not think, that my rationale on understanding IAR generally was that wrong. Would You share some thought on it?


 * Well so, I hope I didn't wear You down. Terribly and unexpectedly verbose. I Wish You nice day. --Re o + 02:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow! That's a very long response! On the signature, it's not a major issue, but if anybody were to replace its content with "fuck Wikipedia" or some other vandalism, that vandalism would affect every page you've ever used that signature on as well as putting a burden on the job queue system (which could mean that the vandalism stays there for hours, even if it's reverted in seconds).
 * As to IAR, just about everyone you'll ever discuss it with will have a different interpretation, but that's part of the beauty of it. It's OK even if nobody else agrees with your interpretation. We're all entitled to our opinions. Personally, I believe that Obama's trip to India falls squarely into the category of routine non-events for which NOTNEWS was written. IAR aside, the consensus is heading in the direction of deletion because nobody has yet come up with a reason why this is more notable than any other routine state visit apart from the classic "everything Obama does is notable", which makes me want to burn it with fire. To give another example, the British PM, half his cabinet and a delegation of business leaders are currently in China for pretty much the same purpose as Obama is in India but, AFAIK, nobody has written an article on it because it's nothing out of the ordinary. Heads of state/government visit other countries to keep up foreign relations. It's their job. So for it to be notable, it would have to be something very much out of the ordinary and a HoS doing business with a major trading partner at a time when Western economies are struggling just isn't in my opinion and that of the majority of participants and nobody has provided anything to the contrary.
 * You have a nice day as well. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Passive transport correction.
Hi Petr.

Thank you for your message about the correction in the "passive transport" page. I'm sorry to have upset you so much, I do not quite understand how the editing process works on Wikipedia and as you have correctly noticed all I did was trying to mend what was obviously an act of vandalism by someone else. I did think that some of the information was still missing even after I deleted the offending material. I hope you've managed to repair it. All the best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.219.106 (talk) 14:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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Santorum discussion
Hi -- just to confirm what you ask about in the santorum discussion -- the effect of SlimVirgin's proposal would indeed be to delete the current article, with no redirect using the current title. A small portion of the existing text would be added to a different article, but the current one would in effect be deleted, with no redirect. cheers, Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:59, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank You for the note.
 * I believe, that this is also matter of debate. As I know the debate on the wiki, the outcome might be slightly changed, just acording the prevailing consenssus in the discusion. So to point out, that I disagree with the deleting the redirect is just the first step. I wonder if some other commentator will notice and put it further.


 * But I basically believe, that the phenomenon should not have this particlular title, I can basically see that this phenomenon happened and is more or less noteworthy. To merge it in the thereinmentioned article seems just fine, but I might even agree on this original article, - under the condition, that the title would be more preciselly descriptive in regards the phenomenon. Well, is the word Santorum_(neologism) really the right title for this? I tried google out at least one instance where anyone would use it in it's new meaning. Some (offending) images for instance or anything in the talk of LGBTs etc..
 * What do I mean by this? Just that the word itself is absolutelly not noteworthy et all, it is not used and even if it would the word itself would belong to the wictionary not to encyclopedia. This would be not encyclopedic content et all. What makes it noteworthy is the relationship between the new word with it's intended meaning with the personality of the said senator and all the story around him and Savage. Wikipedia should not create virtual reality, it should reflect and mirror te reality as it exists. The fact of word being created is true and the publicity of the fact is true too. But the word itself has no importance per se, so why would be Wikipedia just the wehicle to promote it's existence beyond the reality? Already now, the google links show of, that Wikipedia creates it quite a bit.
 * So in my opinion, redirect should not be deleted, but if this scenario is to happen, I see it less encyclopedic harm than the status quo.--Re o + 15:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I love the stylesheet you have on your Talk page. Honestly, as I say in the explanation below my comments on the Talk page, it wasn't a personal attack, but trying to demonstrate the negativity of the words we're discussing. I don't think Discussion is being killed, we have a LOT of editors who are trucking along with comments and input, but I don't want people to fool themselves by thinking this term is not offensive and negative. We have a responsibility to do our best on an article like the Santorum one, we affect real lives here, not like the article about Twinkies where no one gets hurt, we can potentially do incredible damage. We're not simply talking about one man's life anymore, but his children and anyone else who happens to have the same last name. The way we frame the article here at Wikipedia has a lot to do with how this is perceived in the world. People turn to Wikipedia for reliable information and look at Wikipedia as a reliable source itself. Simply playing fast and loose and without regard for how our actions work in the larger society is irresponsible and reckless. Again, its not a personal attack, just working to help others understand this more deeply. -- Avanu (talk)
 * Thank You!
 * I know, I know for sure. Really. But that is just the purpose of the POINT, that you should not demonstrate the bad implications of something by doing it. In fact you were not uncivil in your intentions, but in Czech Wikipedia You might got block just for cs:wp:NEKIT alone - that is wp:POINT here, that is for disruption of Wikipedia.
 * Doesn't matter :) right. It seems that ⌘macwhiz is not ofended and discussion is moving forward. :)
 * By the way, in the context he did made the comment, he was just making things stright. That the santorum was not codyfied for the slang there, but it was rather impersonification of Santorum to get the block... that is irrespective of whether santorum now got or did not get horrible meaning or irrespective of ⌘macwhiz's stance, that was just clarification whether argument of wnt might aply there.
 * Just me, I am not sure how to folow to respond to Gaccur now, because, there is so much of the text in between now, and it feels as if the discussion I had with him, was just diverted out. I can not just easily start it over and at the same time I feel the arguments of him were not right, but as long as I do not respond so it looks like it is just right and dead. I took quite an effort to write my arguments there above and I still think it is right, now it looks like wasted..--Re o + 09:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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