User talk:ResidentAnthropologist/RNPOV

=To Begin= Ok, here We are. I am Proposing on this page that We begin hashing out an explicit guidelines for Religion and closely related topic areas. Good precedent exists such as WP:FRINGE, WP:BLP or WP:MEDRS. We have all know of the conflicts over the decades on this topic of Religion on Wikipedia. Neither should I have to tell about the religious conflicts off Wikipedia. I propose a 2 stage plan for fixing current and future conflicts while learning from the past ones as well.
 * Stage 1: A Short Term period of writing based on 9 Principals of triangulation:
 * 1) Build a stub of based off existing Wikipedia Policy involving Religion. (e.g.NPOV, WP:RNPOV, WP:V, WP:BLP)
 * 2) Integrate existing expectations from Wikipedia guidelines. (e.g WP:IRS, WP:REF, WP:COI,WP:W2W)
 * 3) Integrate existing specialized material from interrelated topic areas. (e.g. WP:FRINGE, WP:NRMMOS MOS-JP )
 * 4) Integrate policy clarifications from the "principals" in Arbcom caselaw (e.g. WP:ARBSCI WP:AFLG WP:ARBPIA WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Noleander)
 * 5) Standardize MOS expectations for Religion
 * 6) Clarify Notability Guidelines for topics related to Religion
 * 7) Standardize Categorization, templates, and others
 * 8) Ensure that articles reflect current Interdisciplinary research whether that be from the Social Scientific, Biological, Medical, theological, philosophical, Historical, Archeological, or other relevant disciplines.
 * 9)Encourage Input from Scholarly, Religious, or other relevant organizations


 * Stage 2: A long term plan to excel in Religion Related Topics
 * 1) Propose the draft built in stage 1 as a new guideline for ratification by the community.
 * 2) Work with WMF on encouraging accredited centers of higher education to contribute to the topic area (similar to Public Policy Initiative)
 * 3) Hold a panel at Wikimania during the 2012 meeting in Washington D.C.
 * 4) Work with WikiProject Council to reorganize Wikiprojects and Work Groups to be more orderly.

=Participants=
 * The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 22:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts
Does any one have comments? The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 22:36, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * To tell the truth, this looks a bit over-ambitious to me. Topic-specific guidelines don't (and I am afraid can't) solve the problems. They just reduce them by being more obviously applicable and by shifting power slightly in the direction of ultimate consensus. I doubt that this is worth so much work. Hans Adler 06:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Much of this is already covered by WikiProject Religion.   Will Beback    talk    06:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does sound ambitious, though I'm not dismissing the proposal. I think editors (particularly new editors) might be served by starting with something more in the nature of an essay illustrating how existing, specific wiki guidelines and policies may be applied to minimize/resolve edit wars which regularly arise. Certainly there are ongoing exasperating and destructive situations where one or both sides don't seem able to grasp how current policies apply to their own editing—even when the applicable guidelines and policies are repeatedly and exhaustively cited. Religion topics are not the only place where PoV-pushing occurs (it plagues politics and other articles), so perhaps getting into this might identify some ideas that would be applicable across projects. &bull; Astynax talk 08:11, 26 August 2011 (UTC)