User talk:Rettetast/Archive 11

Unreferenced BLP tags
How are you determining which articles to tag as unreferenced? I keep coming across ones you've tagged that already have the 'BLP unreferenced' template such as Gledis Tafaj and Andrea Tafi (cyclist). --Jezebel's Ponyo shhh 19:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Database reports/Possibly unreferenced biographies of living people. I am trying to avoid them, but I guess not good enough. Rettetast (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, I just wanted to make sure there was a human behind the edits - I'll just delete the redundant tags if I come across them on my watchlist. Cheers, --Jezebel's Ponyo shhh 19:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not always sure myself. Rettetast (talk) 20:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, the page Commerce minister has repeatedly been tagged as unreferencedBLP or category:Living people, often with AWB or by bots. I think I've fixed this by removing an internal link to Faruk Khan, the (living) Commerce Minister of Bangladesh. I wonder if there are other non-BLP pages being tagged as unreferencedBLP. Cnilep (talk) 18:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note Cnilep. I have done the tagging manually but a few errors is certainly possible. Rettetast (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorting
Please don't edit in this way - this resulted in a bot missorting the article. Haukur (talk) 22:18, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Project tagging for WPSweden
Hello Rettetast, I noticed that you had project-tagged another batch of Sweden-related articles, so I justed stepped by to say thanks for that! I'm deeply concerned at the present BLP mass deletions trend, and a quick inspection of the deletions list confirmed my gut feeling that a significant portion of the Sweden-related biographies remain untagged, despite a large growth in the number of articles within the project. (That slightly more articles are tagged for WPNorway than for WPSweden has contributed to that gut feeling.) As an increased avalanche of AfDs and PRODs over the next couple of months seem inevitable, and with project tagging, there would at least be a possibility to take a look at some them before they're all nuked to oblivion. Having them on the cleanup lists is of course also helpful, in case one would see any realism in systematically improving thousands of articles proactively despite little evidence of editors available to do so (sigh!). As I'm using a Mac at home (and one with not-to-updated version of MacOS at that), AWB is not available for me, so this assistance from you is much appreciated. I fully understand that WPSweden is not your primary focus, but if you would find time and inspiration to do more of this sometime it would be appreciated, in particular for biographic articles. Best regards, Tomas e (talk) 22:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course. It was the BLP drive that made me do the last tagging, but i will look for more. I only did the ones tagged with a stub template, but I can expand the search for articles in the subcats of . However it is easy to go deep and get too any false positives. I'll look into it. Rettetast (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

per your request
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/02/murtha.hospital/index.html?iref=allsearch

CNN he is in the intensive care unit of the hospital

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Good. Just add it too the article, but please no current-template. Rettetast (talk) 23:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Azar Karadas
Hi.

I was the guy who edited the Trivia section of Azar Karadas page. I wonder why it has been deleted as other players have pages concerning their names in other languages such as Luis Boa Morte. There was no wrong information and I see nothing against the Wikipedia policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baros1 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:TRIVIA. It was in my view unimportant and unsourced information. Rettetast (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What is unimportant for some maybe interesting for others. I think it's unimportant to know if somebody is married or not and the names of their children and it isn't for others. If you need sources, I can send a screenshot from the meaning of "Azar" in a Portuguese-English dictionary. Otherwise, just take a look at the Portuguese League winners and you see that what I've submitted there is true, combined with his season's games that are already in the article. From the link you send they say "This guideline does not suggest the inclusion or exclusion of any information; it only gives style recommendations. Issues of inclusion are addressed by content policies.", so it could enter at the description of the time he played for Benfica. (baros1) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baros1 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Replies from Fågelfors-Glen
Well, I just think it's unnecessary to write comments without something important to say, but if it is a comment about the user page, då finns det inget jag kan göra, as we say in Swedish.Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? I don't really understand.Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, not really. I just find it disturbing with feedback on a page about myself. By the way, how do you create those little boxes with "deutschkenntnisse"?Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 12:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

You are probably correct, I apologize for this unneccesary exchange of words, Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 12:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Editing Wiki
Rettetast, sorry to bother you, but unfortunately I don' understand the editing procedure, could you please help me with creating a userbox saying "this user speaks swedish as native language"? Have a nice day! // Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

re: Interesting stat
Hi Rettetast. I would be surprised if less than 5,000 footballer BLPs have been referenced since the end of 2008. It seems like at least 10 new unreferenced articles are added daily, and yet the total has been decreasing for some time.

While we're talking about unreferenced BLPs, I noticed that the categorization of players at important tournaments is not very thorough (especially Africa Cup of Nations, but also CONCACAF Gold Cup, Asian Cup and Copa América). This would make it easier to run CatScan to see if any of the unreferenced BLPs are players from these tournaments. I started categorizing many of the Africa Cup of Nations players, but there is so much work to do if it has to be done manually. Do you know if this can be done automatically by a bot? Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I was using an on-Wiki source (2008 Africa Cup of Nations squads), which is probably a bad idea. I think RSSSF has reliable squad lists and try to use that. I have AWB, but I've only used it once, and don't really know how to use it well. Maybe I'll read the instructions and see if I can figure it out. That is great news about the progress on the backlog (I didn't think it would be quite so much). Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 21:18, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The Wiki squad lists are here, and the categories to place them in are here. I've already finished the 2010 tournament, and most of the 2008 tournament manually. I think another editor has done the 1998 tournament as well. Thank you. Jogurney (talk) 22:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

19:33, 11 February 2010 Rettetast (talk | contribs) deleted "Donal J. Byrne" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: http://byrnetenor.blogspot.com/)
Hi, You recently deleted a page I added to Wikipedia with the following message - 19:33, 11 February 2010 Rettetast (talk | contribs) deleted " Donal J. Byrne " ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: http://byrnetenor.blogspot.com/)

Can you please tell me why ?

Thanks in advance,

Skidegodt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skidegodt (talk • contribs) 18:11, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a copy of the bio at that page. Wikipedia is licensed freely an can not accept copies of other websites without explicit permission. Permission to release the text under a free licesen can be sent to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org. See also WP:COPYREQ. Note that the article also must be sourced in third party reliable sources. See WP:RS. Rettetast (talk) 08:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Images of Manchester City Players
Hi,

I have recently uploaded images for the following former Manchester City players: Francis Lee, Mike Summerbee, Ian Bishop, Tony Coleman, etc. I note that you have stated that each image could easily be replaced by a free image and will thus be deleted in two days if not replaced.

I am of the opinion that no free images could be easily found for the above articles and would like to know why you think that such images could be easily found. If you have located such free images, please direct me to where i may also find them.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Gingerdave (talk) 8:36, 17 February 2010 (GMT)
 * Hi Gingerdave and thanks for your effort. Images of living person are almost always considered replaceable. Bot because free images exist, but because such images almost always can be created. See WP:NFCC. If we allowed such images, why would anyone bother to contribute free images?
 * You should not remove the replacable tag on images. The reviewing admin will consider your arguments and decide if the image should be deleted. If you disagree with the admins decision you can list the file at WP:DRV. Rettetast (talk) 14:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Rahul Sankrityayan books.jpg by Anoop8725
Hello sir, this image is created by me. i have scanned all the coverpages of books of the writer and made it using microsoft office powerpoint 2007 software. This exact image is no where available on internet or anywhere else. So, please remove it from the criteria of speedy deletion. Thank you. Anoop Tiwari (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That was kind of my point. You do not own the copyright to that image. The original author of those cover pages do. Rettetast (talk) 15:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Request delete my page. --Akmuo1 (talk) 10:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Blocking users for creating unreferenced BLPs
Hi Rettetast. I thought it was only fair to tell you that this block of yours struck me as a tad harsh, both in length and in warnings given. And it inspired a comment of mine at the BLP RFC. I'm part of the consensus there to change policy to stop allowing the creation of unreferenced BLPs, but it looks to me that you might have moved ahead of policy there.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  23:51, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * We have always blocked users that persistently violates policies or guidelines and denies to communicate with other users. Of course we don't block users because of the number of unreferenced articles they have created, but when they continue to violate our policies a block is perfectly fine per WP:BLOCK. The length can be discussed, but that is moot now. I had the users talk page on my watchlist and would have unblocked immediately if there was any sign that the user was aware of the problem. Rettetast (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I don't dispute there is a problem, and I'm one of those who supports a change in policy so that new BLPs need to be verified with a source included. But one of the unreferenced articles he created has just survived AFD despite lacking any sources. So I think we are sending out mixed messages here, also I may have missed them but I couldn't see the equivalent of a level 3 or four warning saying that he would be blocked if he continued.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  00:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There was a last warning in September. Rettetast (talk) 00:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes there was, but a three month gap seems a bit long before blocking someone for good faith editing. I suspect from the name, the lack of replies and the subject we may be dealing with someone whose English may not be very strong. Any objection if I ask a Spanish speaker to talk to them?  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  19:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That is a good idea. Rettetast (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Recent death
Your are removing the template from articles where the person has died within one or two days. I thought a week was the limit.Cosprings (talk) 19:52, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Recent death is, like current, only used on articles that are heavily edited at the moment by many editors. It is not used to merly tag the article of a recently deceased person. Rettetast (talk) 21:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

question
The record shows you deleted I offered a further rationale explaining why this image was not reproducible. Can you tell me whether you offered a response to this rationale anywhere? If so can you tell me where? Geo Swan (talk) 04:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. I did not give any further explanation. The image is however obviously replacabale with another image of the ship. All ships enters ports from time too time and it would be be possible to create an image when it does. Rettetast (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ships do enter ports, pretty regularly. However, this was not an image of a ship entering a port.  It is an image of an icebreaker, breaking ice, during its shakedown cruise.  The image was not replaceable because shakedown cruises only happen once, and not replaceable as there were no other parties present who might have taken photos they then released under a free liscense.  Geo Swan (talk) 00:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

unsourced BLP templates
hi...just wondered if there was a reason for your conversion of tags to exclude the BLP part? Cheers. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 00:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I'd appreciate an answer for this question. Cheers. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Probsbly because it was not a BLP. Was there any specific article you had in mind? Rettetast (talk) 09:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth Nickson
I recently added to the biography of Elizabeth Nickson, because what Wikipedia had was brief and unrepresentative of this woman's work. You reverted to the original. I want to know why. What you have is borderline libelous and Wikipedia is already known for skewing left with all conservatives, performing a kind of character assassination that limits the right of individuals to free expression. I WANT THIS CHANGED BACK TO ORIGINAL. I want to know what your problem is with doing such. As soon as possible. I will at this time file a dispute claim, and will pursue this with vigour. Please respond. My email is cfleming@islandnet.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catfleming (talk • contribs) 20:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no knowledge about the subject. I see that your edits was undid by User:Mootros, I'll ask him too explain his intentions on the articles talk page. I also see that the article is entirely unsourced. If you could also help in adding sources too the article that would be great. Rettetast (talk) 20:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

elizabeth nickson libelous entry
Thank you. I have written to Mootros in the strongest terms protesting his action. I will be glad to go to the trouble of sourcing everything IF MY POSTING WILL STAND. If it does not stand, I will take this to dispute resolution and then to legal action. What stands here is so punitive as to be slander. And Wikipedia already has a reputation of character assassination. Elizabeth was accused of plagiarism in 2004, but her career on BOTH THE LEFT AND RIGHT has been a procession of sterling accomplishments. The Wikipedia entry WHICH SHE DID NOT SEEK must reflect the TRUTH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catfleming (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed the section about plagiarism. Is there more that seems libelous. A good advice when editing wikipedia is too avoid threats, such as your above threat about legal actions. See WP:NLT. Even if you are correct such threats never helps and damages the cooperation and creates bad feelings and a lack of trust amongst the community. Rettetast (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI, Catfleming has been indefinitely banned for making legal threats.--Work permit (talk) 03:13, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

ansver....
I deleted my article From Wikipedia. still be found on google.how be deleted from Google —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plexio2 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Which article? Rettetast (talk) 22:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs - take a closer look before tagging!
Hi there - this might seem a little petty, but I just had to comment on this edit you made back in January to the page De Lafontaine, adding unreferencedBLP:. If you'd read the first line, you'd have seen that the subject of the article died in 1738. It's still unreferenced, but she's definitely not a 'living person'! Don't worry about it though, we all make silly mistakes from time to time. Happy editing. Robofish (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem was that the article was in . I see that you have fixed that. Rettetast (talk) 22:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Link replacement
Hi! You've helped with link re. placement in the past. Would it be possible for you to change all instances of http://mypage.bluewin.ch/tomtytom/wxc_iaaf.html to http://web.archive.org/web/20071115222759/http://mypage.bluewin.ch/tomtytom/wxc_iaaf.html ? Thanks in advance, Geschichte (talk) 22:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. Inital thought is that in citations the  parameter should be used. Rettetast (talk) 22:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

help for citing references
In order to cite a reliable source within a Wikipedia article, how does one enter the reference number in the body of the text? Thanks, Derougemont (talk) 01:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. Put the source text within   at the point in the he text where you want it. In the references section add the template reflist. The rest should be automatic. There are more accurate instructions at WP:Footnotes. Rettetast (talk) 15:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Removing categories
Could you tell me why you removed categories for the Trozzolo Communications Group work page? Thanks! Moraqjo (talk) 15:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. Userpages should not be in regular categories. If you are planning to move the page too the main article space you should wait with the categories. Rettetast (talk) 17:23, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've requested that someone review my page to ensure it is good to post since it's been deleted a few times. When will I know if someone has approved? Thanks for your help! Moraqjo (talk) 19:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mette Newth and Philip Newth

 * Thanks, but the credit should go exclusively to User:Oceanh. He created and expanded the articles. I just added the fact that they are parents to a another famous person. Rettetast (talk) 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Norwegian Ice Hockey task force
Hi Rettetast, I know you are heavily involved in Norwegian articles... Therefore I was wondering if you would join the Norwegian Ice Hockey task force, which I recently created? I've already assessed almost all of the Norway-related ice hockey articles, but we need more members in the task force to update the template, and get statistics on how many stub-, start-, list-, etc. class articles we have... This task force could maybe also be a part of WP:NORWAY, in some way? I hope you will join, so that we could get a fine overview of Norwegian ice hockey articles! =) Take care. lil2mas (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but no thanks. Hockey is not my thing. Western Norway you know. Rettetast (talk) 18:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

AC St.Louis 2010
I was having trouble with the table at the bottom of 2010 AC St. Louis season. The chart always goes to the bottom even though in the code its not under the reference. It prevents me from adding anything to the page. Your help is appreciated. Dylant2011 (talk) 18:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Radical interpretation of Wikipedia customs?
Regarding this edit in which you reverse my reversal of another editor, I am surprised to note that you assert that one month is sufficient time to await fulfillment of a citation request using the inline maintenance tag Citation needed. I am also surprised that you choose to be as confrontational as your edit summary suggests. I would concede that reason for removal was sufficient if it had been explained in view of the rather extraordinary claim which was put forth in the removed text, however, your summary gives no hint to this, so I can only assume your edit summary is a direct response to my edit summary which wholly focused on the short time in which the request had been in place. __meco (talk) 14:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, my edit summary was in response to yours. There is no grace period for unsourced statements and they can be removed by anyone. Reverting editors that remove unsourced statements is not productive. If you are interested in having removed unsourced material in an article, source it. The burden of evidence are on you. Rettetast (talk) 19:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And forgive for being grumpy right now. It not you it's them. Rettetast (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your take on how to deal with these inline maintenance tags. The entire point of them is to give users some time to rectify what they request. One month is hardly any time at all, and if this practice which you advocate should be generalized it would simply defeat the purpose of having these cleanup tags in the first place. We would then simply go and delete everything which we were dissatisfied with in articles not giving anyone any reasonable opportunity to correct the issues. __meco (talk) 20:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

James W Black
Can you please help me find a source for the death of Sir James W Black please? It has been on BBC News TV, but I cannot find anything on the internet. Regards IJA (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just cite BBC then. Sources does not have to be available on the Internet. Rettetast (talk) 15:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * found one now cheers IJA (talk) 15:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Your attention please
You were involved in a discussion at Talk:List_of_Alberta_provincial_highways. It's fired back up again, and one use in particular is pushing the fair use images back in. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Image use.
I'm sure that The brothers Chapps, the creators of Homestar Runner, would not mind the free advertising I am providing by putting an Image of Homestar Runner on my Userpage

TheClerksWell (talk) 00:19, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe not. But even with permission our poliy demand that userpages are free of non-free content. Rettetast (talk) 00:24, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

User:TheClerksWell
This user has uploaded File:Homestar Runner.gif claiming it as his own work. It isn't. See for one example web page that has it. He's now placed it on his userpage. Blatant copyright violation. Regardless, I have no desire to interact with him anymore as he is now accusing me of trolling, and he is now trying get me "punished" (see this). Enjoy, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I never accused you of trolling I said User:Fastily accused you of borderline trolling. You can see this on this talk page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hammersoft

TheClerksWell (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not trying to get you punished either, I just want people to stop altering my Userpage without permission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheClerksWell (talk • contribs) 15:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, it's quite simple really. If you don't want people to edit your userpage, don't post non-free content on it.  Or, you can choose to ignore everyone and foolishly wonder why people keep removing files from your userpage.  Seriously, enough is enough.  If you don't want to contribute to this project constructively or if you just want to Troll, you've come to the wrong place TheClerksWell and I suggest you leave.  -  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 03:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not trying to troll, I'm trying to put a picture on my userpage without people removing it behind my back due to stupid copyright laws.

The Brothers Chaps, Mike and Matt created Homestar Runner and I would think that they would appreciate me using the image of the main character of their body of work to advertise their website. If you would want to indirectly harm the copyright holders, then fine, force me to remove the image.

I know why they are removing the images, they are Wikilawyering, they are using the strict interpretation of the rule, which is to not use someone elses work for personal gain, I am not using someone else's work for personal gain I am actually helping them.

TheClerksWell (talk) 03:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bah. Rettetast (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you ever feel like redirecting your talk page to WP:AN/I or WP:DR so people get the hint? :P Orderinchaos 14:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. I'm glad I was away. Rettetast (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Image expert needed
Hi! In lieu of Talk:Vildanden (airline)/GA1, could you look at the suggested deletion of File:Vildanden 340.png. Thanks, Arsenikk (talk)  08:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Over zealous image deletion?
Hi, can I ask you to reinstate the image previously at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wotboxfront.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1 (linked to from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror_%28game%29)

A while ago I provided a fair use rationale and stated myself to be the copyright holder of this image. How that isn't enough, I have no idea.

If I haven't jumped through the right bureaucratic hoop or ticked the correct box somewhere, please let me know. All I'm trying to do is improve the information on the page that has now existed for a couple of years but won't go anywhere fast unless I start adding some much-needed content.

Thanks Andrewsheerin (talk) 13:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. The rationale did not say where fair use was claimed. I have fixed that now. Rettetast (talk) 13:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your speedy response! Andrewsheerin (talk) 14:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Hutchison
Per your request on my talk page, although it was a serious OTRS matter, it's old and the account doesn't seem to have been back, so I unprotected and re-watchlisted. Orderinchaos 14:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:Antonio Paoli
You are right, I'll fix it and semi-protect the article. Tony the Marine (talk) 16:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

your deletions
Could you please explain how did you delete the files related Sofia Rotaru, saying that no ratioanle was provided, whereas it was in fact provided on the very page of each file.--Rubikonchik (talk) 13:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC) Please explain or advise where to discuss your inappropriate deletions--Rubikonchik (talk) 12:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:DRV. Rettetast (talk) 01:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly, the files were in compliance with the aforementioned rules and regulations with the appropriate rationale explained. So why did you delete them? If you do not know why did you delete them, please restore them or advise where to appeal against your unjustified deletions. Thank you.--Rubikonchik (talk) 09:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As it was pointed out at WP:NFR the images failed WP:NFCC. They were simply not needed. Rettetast (talk) 09:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have reviewed the rules. I would like to make it short and straight to the point. The deleted images were intended to provide the exact reading and writing of song titles and where applicable information about the album in order to avoid incoherences and irrelevant debates on the name of the language for example, in which the songs are performed, etc.

No free equivalent. - fulfilled - there is no alternative

Respect for commercial opportunities - fulfilled - the non-free content is not used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media. Although I agree, some images are oversized, I would be glad to reduce them with the appropriate program.

Minimal usage + Minimal extent of use. - fulfilled - the images are only used in the relevant articles about the given album.

Previous publication. - fulfilled - the images have been published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia.

Content. - fulfilled - it is the very object of an ancyclopedia to reflect facts as they are and not to succomb into eternal useless controversial debates. This is precisely why these images were uploaded. Media-specific policy. - fulfilled - the material perfectly meets Wikipedia's media-specific policy. One-article minimum. - fulfilled -  each image was used in at least one article. By the way, I would like to recall that I have noticed previously how certain users delete the image from the article and then nominate it as an orphaned file - is this normal?

Contextual significance. - fulfilled - as the images significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would lead to various interpretations and edit warring as it was, for example, already the case regarding the name of the language "Romanian / Ukrainian".

Restrictions on location. - fulfilled - the images were in article namespace

Image description page. - fulfilled - an appropriate rationale was provided for each of the images. May be some templates were obsolete and consequently not duly updated, but this couldn't be a reason for their deletion.--Rubikonchik (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

No really, all I am doing is trying to understand excatly which rule was violated, and how did you apply this or that rule to each image? I hope you have a better explanation than a form of slight personal harrassment.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Most of the points above are irrelevant. WP:NFCC works in the way that all points has to be fulfilled. In order to fulfill #8 you at least have to be able to provide sourced critical commentary about the specific image. Also the exact reading and writing of song title is obviously replacable with sourced text and therefore fails WP:NFCC. I don't think it is any point in going further this issue here. If you still think my closing on WP:NFR was wrong, please go to WP:DRV. Rettetast (talk) 15:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I do not think that a sourced critical commentary requirement may apply to a back cover of an album, I mean nobody comments this. However, like I said earlier, these back sides are relevant insofar as they clearly state which langauge was this or that song played and how it was exactly called on the album. There are certainly other sources for track lists, etc, but the problem is that they are all different and therefore only an irreplacable picture of the back cover may put a final fullstop in the debate. No 8 says Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. The aforementioned images did exactly this - they were increasing understanding of the topic, since without these images the debate would go on and on and on. Therefore, IMHO, No 1 and No 8 are clearly fulfilled. To my mind the images could only have been deleted on the grounds that some of them were oversized and maybe the rationale template was not duly updated, that's it.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Tel Zeidan
Why did you ad the category living people to Tel Zeidan? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 12:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * An error. Thanks for the note. Rettetast (talk) 12:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Dusha
Could you please suggest something on the talk page - a sort of wording you would like to see? Thank you in advance.--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * An encyclopedic text should be written around objective text. Using positive words like blockbuster without defining it is not helpful. Give us the numbers and let the readers come to their own conclusions. Rettetast (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

prods
If an unref blp article is partially translated from another WP that does have a referenced article, but without the refs, it is in my opinion more helpful to copy the refs over than to prod as unreferenced cf Valentin Stepankov--which obviously needs further translation, but it takes no knowledge of Russian to find properly formatted refs.  DGG ( talk ) 02:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I have just been checking prods, and I checked 10  of the articles you prodded in the last day or two. For 9 of them I quickly found references, generally in the obvious places in the googles. One was an obvious copyvio, and I marked for speedy accordingly.  Of the 8 others, a few have dubious notability, and were so marked. But at least  three or four of them were extremely notable, and will certainly hold at afd. This is not careful work. The point of blp prod is to remove unsourced articles, while keeping the ons that can be sourced. I would blame nobody for not trying to source articles that looked clearly non-notable--most editors would not think it worth the work, though I myself always check if there is anything likely at all, because the article does not always express the notability very well. But any careful editor would, I think, do at least a quick g-check on the ones that, based on the information presented, would certainly yield a good source. Otherwise, you're throwing the work on others who do care about both deleting and keeping articles according to the merits and sourceability.
 * You will probably argue that it is by prodding that we give the authors incentive to source--but we need to be nice to newcomers, or we will not replace the editors we inevitably lose by attrition,  and almost all will source if the need is explained to them without the threat of deleting the articles. For the others, the deletion processes may have a role, but that's the exception.
 * Myself, I did not support the current blp prod policy, because I thought it both unnecessary and harmful. Since it has become accepted, I  of course enforce it as an admin, as I do all policy. I delete unsourced BLPs that have been prodded if I cannot find a source--I deleted 4 or 5 of them today.  But the method you are using is a very strong argument that the policy as adopted is a mistake, at least without the requirement of WP:BEFORE. I unfortunately can't stop you from prodding without checking, but I certainly can and will use the prods you have been making as an argument for why BEFORE should be a requirement. If you disagree with me that it's needed, as you probably do, why not give me less material?  DGG ( talk ) 03:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. I don't think we are that far away from each that you may think. I have used a lot of time on sourcing BLPs and organizing specific projects with the goal of sourcing BLPs. My philosophy in using BLP-prod now is that it is better to use it now and Prod some every day instead of letting the article that qualify for BLP-prod pile up and have somone Prod hundreds or thousands at some point. That would be unmanageable. It is also a sad fact that the threat of deletion actually helps. Articles get sourced. You are of course entitled to make any point you want in the discussion of the policy. I have chosen to stay out of the discussions, but will enforce it as I see necessary. All the best. Rettetast (talk) 12:24, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Florian Meyer
I must endorse you to not delete the phirst paragraph and picture in the article about Florian Meyer, because it is objectically true. He is a pathetic referee and a lyar (he accussed the striker to have broke his jersey to simulate the penalty!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.126.167.104 (talk) 17:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable third party source that says he is a "pathetic referee and a lyar"? Rettetast (talk) 18:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

What is process after BLP prod removed and non-reliable sources are added?
You recently proposed deletion for this unsourced BLP: Terry Wharton. An IP added "sources" consisting of links to fansites that are not WP:RS and have been removed. What would the next step be? Active Banana (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is actively being discussed at WT:BLPPROD. The safest thing to do would be to use WP:AFD if the subject isn't notable. Rettetast (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

José Narosky
Hi there. You proposed this article for deletion using the WP:BLPPROD process. I have contested the deletion, as I found this source which I believe is acceptable: (by looking on the corresponding Spanish Wikipedia article). If you still feel the article should be deleted, feel free to take it to AFD. Robofish (talk) 21:58, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
I responded. Tim1357 (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Dragan Tanasijević
I've contested this one as well, as I found this source which I believe is acceptable: Robofish (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The B.G.'z
I've also contested this one, as I don't think it's actually a biography: it's an article on a (defunct) rap group. The two members are both notable themselves (see Lil Wayne, B.G. (rapper)), so the group passes the inclusion criteria of WP:BAND. Robofish (talk) 23:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Flags in infobox rail accident
Needs wider discussion, raised at WT:TWP. Mjroots (talk) 15:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like this has now been resolved. I was only following instructions. Mjroots (talk) 15:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha ha. Rettetast (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bah, you beat me to it, I was looking forward to removing all those flags. Seriously, good work, keep it up. --John (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Star of David
I have withdrawn and struck the intended discussion due to editors lack of understanding of my intentions. That may be my fault, as I did not want to go beyond a quick statement and had invited discussion. Instead, I am being mobbed with accusations that are untrue and personally, I feel reactionary due to editors not inquiring about my intent, but using it to exorcize their own prejudices. This happens sometimes with limited information. If there is a way to just remove the section, feel free to do so. I will not use the icon (symbol) in future edits. Regards!Victor9876 (talk) 15:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

BLPPROD
Please recall that you are encouraged to follow WP:BEFORE when using the BLPPROD template. In the case of Ronald Weiser it should have been clear that it would be trivial to source the article. Please consider doing so in the future. Hobit (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see my response to DGG over. I think it is better that we prod them as soon as possible when the creator is most likely to be active. The alternative is to wait to the articles eligible for BLPPROD has piled up for a couple off months and watch someone prod them all at once. Rettetast (talk) 08:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fair, but my 2 cents is that when the claim to notability is really clear (as it was in this case) taking 2 minutes to check for trivial sourcing would be preferred. In general checking for sources before BLPPRODing is encouraged (in the policy), and doing so for the clearly notable seems especially reasonable.  So far, of the BLPPRODs I've seen, only about 5% fall into that category. Hobit (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * My experience is a little different, but it depends on what type of people one checks--I do not do athletes and musicians, in general. . Of the ones I check 25% have sufficient notability to at least have a plausible chance of passing afd. I check them as far as necessary. order to keep up, I no longer check at all  the ones that would unambiguously fail, but that   is only about another 25%. In the middle 50%, I may not work too hard if It's the sort of person I know will be difficult to source, but I do if it looks easy enough.
 * But the one I cam here about today is Anthony Sinagra, a state senator.As it happens, there's even more to it than it looks, as the simplest g news search shows --but a state senator from last few decades will always be trivial to source. Not doing bios like that is making more work overall.  DGG ( talk ) 18:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * and today, I have been fixing  more of yours, even in fields where I do not ordinarily work-- In these fields, I merely check G News, which is easy enough for anybody. If you want to get unsourced material out of Wikipedia , try looking for sources. It is more likely to do it than just nominating for prods . DGG ( talk ) 20:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I am going to proceed with prodding BLPs according to WP:BLPPROD and focus my sourcing on my area of interest where I have access to restricted databases. I believe that is the best way to work. You disagree. Rettetast (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Damn right I do. By all means use  specialized databases, as I do when needed.  If you want to use the more professional databases to do the sourcing that would prevent listing things for deletion, certainly do so. There are many sources which  do very nicely in covering most of the material that the googles do, and extend it much further . For example Cartledge Gwendolyn could have been check through quite a number of expensive databases, and some free specialized ones.  I often try to do it with free sources to set an example, showing users who have no others available that they can do good sourcing work here also.  The point isn't what sources you use, but not to make work for other people when you could solve the problem yourself.  DGG ( talk ) 03:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Amen. Hobit (talk) 15:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Just sticking my nose in here. Wikipedia is all volunteers spending their time and resources where they feel they make the most significant contribution to the project. Until Rettetast is working for a salary that you are paying him, you really dont have any right to make anything other than suggestions of how he spends his time, any more than he can tell you what you should be doing. Active Banana (talk) 21:09, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As an admin, I am required to do something about BLPs in particular that are harmful to he encyclopedia, and I may not choose to pass over them. If I were to see someone improperly removing BLP prods, I must remind them not to. If I see someone improperly placing them, ditto. It is hard enough for me checking them without out people making the work harder--it hinders me from doing as careful a job as I can in removing the ones that must be removed. Having to content with unnecessary deletion nominations inhibits dealing with the necessary ones.  Someone might choose not to work on something, but if they do, they must do it properly and cooperatively.  DGG ( talk ) 07:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Then go talk to this prat

thanks
Good evening,

Thanks for the contribution.

Regards,

Murat Kaplan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sifumuratkaplan (talk • contribs) 17:22, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

images of tickets
Hi. A user insists that File:Delhi metro smart card.jpg can be licensed under CC/GFDL because he took the image himself. I take it that this is still copyrighted by the Delhi Metro? Also, could you look at its use in Delhi Metro and consider if it would meet the free image rationale (is there enough discussion about the image to warrant it)?. Thanks, Arsenikk (talk)  08:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have nominated File:Delhi metro smart card.jpg for deletion. I can also not see that the image could pass WP:NFCC. The design of the ticket is probably the a pretty unimportant detail when it comes to the ticketing system. I would also note that the ticketing section in the article looks like a travel guide to me. Rettetast (talk) 14:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, I noticed your conversation, and thought I'd check how it was done on the English articles: London Underground and National Rail. Both articles have multiple pictures of tickets, so it is maybe a good idea to PROD them first, to gain a basis for a deletion of the Dehli Metro ticket. You'd be likely to receive more arguments for and against by doing it that way! ;) Just a thought... lil2mas (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * When I nominate images for deletion at commons they hardly never get any attention. Rettetast (talk) 20:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The image in question has been speedy deleted by . Rettetast (talk) 23:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Joe Cali (inventor)
You notified me that you blpprod-ed Joe Cali (inventor). I split Joe Cali into two articles ('Joe Cali (inventor)' and one other). Is any of the material on the talk page at talk:Joe Cali (inventor) useful as a reference? It was so badly formatted that I moved it to talk and threw up my hands about trying to format it for the article page. RJFJR (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at them I don't thin any of them are usable. However I am going to remove the BLPPROD as there is sources even if they are pretty bad. Rettetast (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

help me please
hi there

i saw you deleted my page,

thankyou so much, as somebody has edited it with complete trash and lies

this has been very hurtful and distressing to me and my family, not to mention my business reputation.

please can you remove the whole thing completley, so i doesnt even come up on a search engine as it can be still read by all.

i would thankyou so much if you could completley remove everything linked to me on wikipedia

thankyou

glenn walton Davety77 (talk) 17:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

here is google link

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:k_nZKWEJYNwJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Walton+glenn+walton&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 * The article has been deleted from Wikipedia and the title has been protected so that it can not be created again. We can't do anything about google but it will eventually disapear. Maybe you could contact google? Rettetast (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Len Chapman
Hi,

I was very interested to see the page about Len Chapman, having spent the last 25 years researching the history of radar, and particularly the radar stations and system in Scotland. This includes Netherbutton, so Len chapman is someone of interest to me. I think the photo you've included of the young Len in uniform may have been taken during the war, raher than in the 1930s, but at this stage I can't be certain. I would be interested in contacting his daughter if this would be possible. I assume you are in touch with her and wondered if you would be willing to pass my details on to her nad ask her to contact me. My name is Ian Brown and my email is ibrown@radararchive.freeserve.co.uk

Any help you may be able to give me would be much appreciated and anything I am able to find out I would be happy to feed back to you.

Cheers,

Ian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.214.14 (talk) 20:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. Could you please provide me a link to the article? I don't think I was the editor you wanted to contact, but I'll try too helps as good as I can. Rettetast (talk) 21:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou kindly for adjusting the meaning of and history of the name Hajra back to its true meaning, Unfortunatly people are still distroying this page with in correct information and stories with no references. My name and about One million people out there share the name Hajra, I hope that its origin can be maintained in a ever changing world, thankyou regards Hajra —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hajraisabeautifulname (talk • contribs) 12:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Minor edits
Re the message you posted on my Talk page in which you said: "seems I have to repeat this. Please stop marking nearly all of your edits as minor when they shouldn't. I suspect you have your preferences set to mark all edits as minor set to default. It may be a good idea to change that. Thank you" - Yes, my preferences is set at that. Perhaps you should organize a discussion and gain consensus to have that feature removed? However, in the meantime, if I make a mistake once in a while, and high volume, full article contributors might do that sometimes, then please forgive me for this terrible error. However, having read the Wikipedia article on the subject, may I suggest that one editor calling something a non-minor edit might well be viewed by a contributor who makes substantial contributions, as actually minor and, respectfully, hence no more than someone's POV. Thanx for your concern on this most important of matters, and do please assist me by "repeat this" whenever you find another of my failings. Handicapper (talk) 17:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Please don't attempt intimdation here. The two examples you declare to be non-minor are in fact minor. If you disagree, then by all means start a discussion on the appropriate Talk page. Or, if you are accusing me of deliberately contravening Wikipedia policy, then please refer it to Arbitration. Handicapper (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Do not, repeat, do not, call me a liar. Such personal attacks are in violation of Wikipedia policy. Handicapper (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Policy does not approve calling anyone a liar on their Talk page. Period. Please stop playing what appears to me at least to be control games. Thanx. EoD. Handicapper (talk) 17:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Copa Libertadores winners article
I think most users are in agreement now on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football and I request the page be unprotected so we can maintain the quality of the List. --MicroX (talk) 08:30, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not convinced that the edit warring will not continue. Let's wait at least a week. And it would be a good idea to move the discussion to the article talk page. Rettetast (talk) 10:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

blp prods
members of national teams can easily be sourced. you are making more total work by placing prods on them, instead of doing this.  DGG ( talk ) 21:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI
Since you've being dealing with this user you may be interested in Requests for comment/Handicapper Gnevin (talk) 13:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Little Flock
Didn't notice I had accidentally deleted the disambiguation template :O -- thank you for restoring it! -- Joren (talk) 04:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Deinboll
The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

credible permission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_M%C3%BCller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Profero#File_permission_problem_with_File:Jens_M.C3.BCller_in_Stalag_Luft_III.jpg

From: Jonathan Vance  • Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:47:39 -0500 To: Profero  • Subject: RE: Photo credit From: Jonathan Vance  Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:54:19 -0400 To: 'Profero'  • Subject: RE: Photo credit You are welcome to use the photo, as long as the following credit is noted: Photo courtesy Jonathan F. Vance, Canada Research Chair, The University of Western Ontario." The original was given to me many years ago by Per Bergsland, but I'm afraid I don't know who took it - I expect it was a German photographer brought in to do propaganda shots. Regards, JonathanF. Vance, PhD Professor and Canada Research Chair Department of History, University of Western Ontario -Original Message- From: Profero [mailto: profero@xxxx.xx] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:13 PM To: jvance@xxxx.xx Subject: Photo credit •••• > -Original Message- > From: Profero [mailto:profero@online.no] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:55 PM > To: Jonathan Vance > Subject:  Re: Photo credit > > Thanks a lot Jonathan, >  > I am very grateful for what you have sent me and the quality is not  of > significant importance to the use I was thinking of - adding it to  Wikipedia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_M%C3%BCller > > As an old photo-nerd I am, of course, interested in the quality of  the > original picture. The one you sent me now also included Jan Staubo which made > made me think that the original photo also includes several more POWs (or what > made these 4 men particularly interesting  from the German's point of view?) > And studying the grain of the picture it seems to have been cropped and > enlarged. So, from a technical point of view it made me wonder if there exists > a larger uncropped original, and if you are in possession of it. > > You told me that Per Bergsland gave it to you - but was it already then > already reproduced and cropped to include only the four of them? > > I also wonder how Per got this picture. Do you know? > > When it comes to rescanning it I think only you can judge if it would result > in better quality, and if so, yes, thanks. > > The 'suddenly interested' are probably, like I, at that age when we see how > easily time can escape with our memories of relations and stories better worth > passing on to our grandchildren. > > Well, as I said, you decide if it's worth the bother to rescan. > > I am in any case still very grateful for your kindness. > > Best regards > Robert —Preceding unsigned comment added by Profero (talk • contribs) 14:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

user:Jamen Somasu
Right back at it, I'm afraid. Can you have a quick look before the drama gets out of hand again? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Checking edits
It's a good idea to always use the "Show preview" button to check your work for errors. Would you kindly ensure you do that in future. Thanx for your valued cooperation. Handicapper (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Bobby Kromm
Thanks for your edit to Bobby Kromm regarding the use of the recent death. Also per that template's instructions, remember to check the article talk page and change "living=yes" to "living=no" in WPBiography. &mdash; MrDolomite • Talk 18:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Not that important imo. Somone will get to it via . Rettetast (talk) 19:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: No longer living
Regarding this list, I cleared it out (except, of course, for the ones where it makes sense for them to have a BLP tag AND a deaths in XXXX category), but it's always going to have some left over at each cycle, so I think I'll take a break from it for now. Still much better than the 500+ we started with though! Canadian  Paul  15:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Great. Good idea to take a break. The work won't disappear. Rettetast (talk) 16:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Volleyball players
I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on Yekaterina Gamova, Hélia Souza, Serena Ortolani and Kenia Carcaces for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 22:53, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I am not interested in volleyball. Rettetast (talk) 16:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Brainboxj
This user, whom you blocked three years ago for vandalism, is asking for unblock. Would you care to look and give an opinion? --Anthony.bradbury<sup style="color:black;">"talk" 18:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks for the heads-up
at Russ Savakus. I've added some source that I have at home and might look for more. I had hoped that adding 8 or so wikilinks to articles that already had his name in them would do the trick, but apparently not. In any case, I have not revoked the Thumbs-Up Award that I gave you in 2006, which just keeps getting farther and farther away. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 14:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Jamen Somasu
As the admin who blocked User:Jamen Somasu, a heads-up that there is a proposal at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Jamen Somasu for Jamen to be unblocked under condition that he engages in mentorship. It is proposed that I would act as mentor. Your opinion on the matter would be welcome. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kring
Thanks for leaving me the message. My bot created the page as a redirect to the asteroid 8391 Kring, which I think is the right target since the namesake of this asteroid (David A. Kring) hasn't got a Wikipedia article and Cristina "Kring-Kring" Gonzales (whoever that is), if notable at all, should be treated under a different title. Having read WP:BLPPROD, I'm still not sure whether I am allowed to reinstate that redirect. Am I? Thanks, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 11:27, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You are allowed to do anything you think enhances the encyclopedia. Be bold. Rettetast (talk) 11:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, Ignore all rules is my favourite :-) ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Technowarrior (talk) 11:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC) Thanks for commenting on the Gerben Hellinga Jr. page I've created. I've improved it by adding some reliable third party sources as references. Please check it out.

Sourcing of the French Assembly
I see you've been adding unsoruced BLP tags to a large number of generated articles on the members of the French Assembly. I don't know if you've completed that, but if you haven't, or if you have an alternate way of accomplishing it, might you consider, rather than tagging, soucing the information from the following list? , which appears to cover nearly all the relevant sourcing, and adding that cite wouldn't be, I'd think, any more work than adding the tag. Thanks! --<font color='#66dd44'>j &#9883; e deckertalk 19:07, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * PS -- thanks for helping to uncover more unsourced BLPS! --<font color='#66dd44'>j &#9883; e deckertalk 19:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll tag them for now. Verifying each entry will take more time than I have for this at the moment. Maybe such easy sourceable article clusters should be listed somwhere? Rettetast (talk) 20:24, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I think a great idea. I'm working through this cluster now, you are right that it's important to check each one--there have been a few changes since the last general election (as people have died, etc.) I don't know of a list, I'll ask a couple folks, the best I could suggest in the meantime if you find one is to drop a note to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unreferenced_Biographies_of_Living_Persons  Anyway, t hanks for the response!--<font color='#66dd44'>j &#9883; e deckertalk 14:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 151 articles left at the list of French politicians tagged as unreferenced BLPs. You must have done a a lot of them. Rettetast (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I hit all the folks listed in the French Assembly category, in part due to my cat awaking me way too early this morning, it took on a rhythm pretty quickly. :)  Thanks for the additional pointer!  --<font color='#66dd44'>j &#9883; e deckertalk 17:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

BLP PRODs
Please remember that only article created after 18 March 2010 are eligible for BLP PROD, which would disqualify Machiko Kochi, which you tagged. Thanks, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm. Twinkle gives a warning about this, but not on this article. Weird. Rettetast (talk) 20:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

blpprods
John Steve Brunache and several others of your recent BLP prods, have had very easy to find sources--I checked 6, & easily did 4 of them in Google News Archive or Google. One Michael McKenry was a major league baseball player! Another is a billionaire in Forbes. Marc Ladreit. Wouldn't it help get the truly unsourceable ones deleted as they ought to be if you checked at least the most obvious places first, so we only had to do real work on the others?  DGG ( talk ) 05:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We have had discussion before. We disagree. IMO it is better to prod regularly when it is more likely that the creator is active than to wait a couple of months and let someone prod hundreds at once. Rettetast (talk) 20:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no need to prod most of them at all, now or later, because most can be sourced. We have indeed had these discussions before, because I will confess to a certain resentment that you are throwing this sort of work on others--it does not help Wikipedia as much as either actually persuading the users to source in the first place or source them yourself. I came back here to mention Jacobo Rispa who can easily be documented from Variety as having won the rewards claimed.    DGG ( talk ) 01:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Good artice nomination of Bergen Tramway
Hi, I'm nomination Bergen Tramway for GA status. Could you please review it for me? --<font face="Verdana"> Eisfbnore  (  talk  ) 11:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering
Hi Rettetast, I just happen to check Hanna Mjåvatn´s profile here. She is being deleted or redirected, this is really strange that Christopher Flinder Pedersen who ended up with the third position in the first season of Dansefeber is still there, while Hanna Mjåvatn who was the winner of the second season, is being deleted. In fact, I don't mind her deletion because I havn't contributed in that article in anyway. But i am wondering, shouldn´t this have been the other way round, Christopher Flinder Pedersen being deleted and Hanna Mjåvatn being kept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jogibaba (talk • contribs) 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have only touched Hanna Mjåvatn and not the other article. If you think that article should be redirected to, please do so. If you think Hanna Mjåvatn should have here own article you are free to revert me. Rettetast (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Jamen Somasu
OK, this has gone on long enough. As I understand it, User:Jamen Somasu was given a 1RR restriction, but he has now made approximately 30 reverts at 1968 Intercontinental Cup (the number may be more, I lost count). Should this not now result in him being blocked indefinitely? – PeeJay 22:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! By the way, good work on noticing his Youtube account name. I didn't even bother to look at the videos! – PeeJay 14:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * An anonymous user has started editing 1968 Intercontinental Cup. I believe that this is Jamen Somasu/SuperSonicx1986 trying to evade their block as the anon is re-adding the Youtube videos and arbitrarily pruning the summary of the first leg I added. Could you possibly look into this for me? – PeeJay 18:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Tales Schutz
I am requesting help on the name of Tales Schutz.

There is a list in the article Schutz, with the name using 'u' instead of 'ü'. Therefore, I do not think Tales Schütz is a correct name. However, User:Hoiwa852 is keep changing the name of Tales Schutz to Tales Schütz (u to ü) without any source or evidence, in South China AA and Template:South China AA squad. I am afraid that I will violate 3RR again, so I hope you may give me some suggestions what I should do about this matter.

Sorry for my English.--FootballHK (talk) 13:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Go to the talk page. Discuss the matter and invite the other user. If this does not help see WP:DR. Edit warring may get both of you blocked. Rettetast (talk) 14:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Sailing at the 1948 Summer Olympics
Hi,

It might be good to discuss matters first before just simple remove things and than start powerplay.

Can you please elaborate the reason.

Regards

RudyNED33 (talk) 12:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Rettetast's actions are completely accurate. These images are not at all required, and are purely decorative. We have extremely strict non-free content criteria, which determine when non-free media may be used. These are not needed. J Milburn (talk) 13:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * These images give an accurate idea on how Olympic sailing in the classes was performed at that time. It gives the reader very good information on the materials used in that time and also the handling of the yachts. This is not decorative. As example in file:1948 Star.jpg is shown that in 1948 the yachts are not sailed as flat as is done later. Also cotton sails and wooden mast are used. The mast are hardly bended and set almost vertical. The sails are set pretty loose to loose power. Vangs were not used and some of the yachts still use a extra forstay that runs to the top of the mast. This image gives, like the others historical information on Star sailing at the 1948 Summer Olympics. Regards NED33 (talk) 14:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is important you can use words. Not others copyrighted work. You are also free to raise the issue at WP:NFR. Rettetast (talk) 16:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The elements I used as example are those I (quickly) recognize. An other knowlegable sailor will find other/more information. Hence in the reason the phrase:"... words alone could not convey".NED33 (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Such details are not a good rationale for using a non-free image. Only if the image itself has an iconic status and is discussed in the article text, with sources of course, non-free historic images are OK. Falling Man is a good example. Again I welcome you to challenge this at WP:NFR. Rettetast (talk) 06:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you please stop the destruction of the articles so I have some time during the weekend to open the discussion, or start it your self if you can not wait. In case the situation as is was is appoved it is not simply undo your changes but I have to find and reenter all the deleted images as well. That is not the type and amount of work I'm looking forward to.NED33 (talk) 10:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Carlos Bustelo
Please look before you tag. Bustelo was a cabinet minister in Spain. Sure, the article needed more than the single sentence it had. But putting up an AFD tag is inappropriate when the subject is patently notable.AMuseo (talk) 13:56, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There was no afd--tag on the article. The article was proposed for deletion purely because it was a completely unreferenced article about a living individual. Surely you as an experienced user are familiar with our strict policies when it comes to BLPs? Rettetast (talk) 16:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

image:1964 Finn Victors.jpg
A discussion tookplace about this specific image for this article. The result of the discussion was KEEP!. So why did you removed it from Sailing at the 1964 Summer Olympics - Finn?NED33 (talk) 10:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Pic SelmaHeschelMarch.jpg
Hi. Can you clarify why you removed SelmaHeschelMarch.jpg from two articles? The photo is in Wiki commons ... it looks like it has jumped over the copyright hurdles. Can you provide more explanation? Thanks. --Noleander (talk) 19:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, I see. It looks like that pic is not in the public domain.  So there are some "fair use" issues, and the rule is "A rationale must be provided for every article any non-free image is used in, which must also declare compliance with the other parts of the non-free content criteria. Source and other copyright information must also be provided."   Hmmmm, can you give me some guidance on that.  For example, can you identify some other articles that include non-free photos in them, so I can get some examples that show how the policy works in WP?  Specifically: where would the rationale be located?  In a comment next to where the photo is included?   Thanks.  --Noleander (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm making progress. I see in File:Selma marches philippe derome.jpg that the editors put the rationale in the File page itself.  But that is a painting, and has different rules than a photograph.  I need to find some photo rationales. --19:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A good example of a valid fair use image can be found in Falling man. There are probably more at WP:NFC. Looking just at other articles will probably show you many invalid non-free images. And you are correct. The rationale should be at the file description page. Rettetast (talk) 12:25, 1 August 2010 (UTC)1

Ambassadors
National ambassadors to the UN are notable. For an unsourced article on one, either it is a hoax, or a source can be quickly found. cf. Abdussalam Sergiwa. BLP Prods like these are the best evidence why WP:BEFORE should be required.  DGG ( talk ) 03:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Could you look into this...
Greetings, Seeing as you were the one who blocked a recent troublesome user (User:Jamen Somasu), could you look into if he is evading his black by using IP addresses. The Copa Libertadores article that Jamen was trying to bring to GA status has been edited extensively by an IP user, which (using Geolocate) all come from the same area in Georgia as some of his suspected sockpuppets. Thanks in advance. Digirami (talk) 01:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I saw the case about the user Jamen Somasu, he is known for being a problematic user in several webpages. I suspect he is using another IP so please check this []. He seems to be the same person, just check the articles the IP user was editing. Thanks!

P.D. I Notice that he was editing this article about the costa rican player Bryan Ruiz. He also included wrong references including one using a copyrighted video. Please revert his editings. I made minor edits before noticing this. --201.191.6.213 (talk) 22:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Please check this,I suspect it is a sockpuppet of Jamen Somasu. [] --201.205.93.162 (talk) 18:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

If you want more information about "your old friend" look at his My Space profile. With this it will be easier to find more sockpuppet accounts. --201.205.93.162 (talk) 19:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Take a look?
See this. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * See Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents as well. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this user supposed to be able to edit his/her user page?
You recently blocked this editor for block evasion, yet it appears that the editor can still edit its user page Is that supposed to be like that? Active Banana   ( <sup style="color:gold;">bananaphone  22:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * User talk page like above, yes. User page, No. If he abuses his user talk page that will also be blocked. 23:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

USOC image
I've attempted to address your delete position on. Please feel free to reply if you have anything further to add. Thanks! --SkotyWAT<sub style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">C 04:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Venturefondet
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Greetings! I see a lot of reverting on a number of articles including Osvaldo Zubeldía. The root issue seems to be whether there should be a succession box for the winning Copa Libertadores managers at the bottom of their respective articles. Has there been discussion at the project level about this, and if so, can you point me to it? Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. I don't care about the issue. Just reverting the socks of a banned editor. So, No discussion. Rettetast (talk) 19:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't see any edits that linked him back to the banned editor directly, though I do agree this user is the latest in a sequence that have been blocked for sockpuppetry, so he's certainly related to these most recent accounts. —C.Fred (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Polish National Ballet
I don't think Filomaj's edit should be considered vandalism, it was a case where the sole author blanked the page, so a reason for, I think. --Crusio (talk) 14:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Robert Szczepanski
You had posted a proposed deletion of this article due to lack of references. I had accidentally forgotten to add the references, but I have included those now so it should be acceptable. Thanks for the heads up.Strongmantom (talk) 17:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Housekeeping
Hi Rettetast. Thanks for your rapid intervention at User talk:Danielwork. It's saved some editors a headache knowing what  to  do. --Kudpung (talk) 03:02, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Danielwork
Hi Rettetast. Thanks very much for your following & dealing with User:Danielwork - I see you've now blocked them - bravo!

Just a minor thought though - is there a case for adding the template to the top of User_talk:Danielwork, for clarity? I'm not an expert on such things. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 11:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Do we know who  he was a sock  of?  It's probably  not important. We  just  need to  keep  a weather eye open for a similar occurence somehow.  Any one know how?--Kudpung (talk) 11:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC) Oh, and what  do  we do  about  his 360 created pages?--Kudpung (talk) 11:43, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Kudpung. Please see User_talk:Danielwork for sock info..
 * As for their pages - well, the ones I saw weren't in & of themselves all bad. But the user was very diruptive - refused to address editors' concerns, & was a loose cannon, disregarding some aspects of wp:MOS.
 * So, I think we don't need to do anything re their pages - those will be dealt with by the normal WP wheels, I'd have thought. Trafford09 (talk) 11:54, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Asking your advice
Hi Rettetast. As I said before, thanks for blocking Danielwork.

May I ask you some general advice - although a case in point is
 * - pie

If I try to engage with a user (take Kante4 above) and point out to him/her a flaw in their editing style - to wit never supplying Edit Summary nor using the 'minor' flag - but they effectively ignore all my polite reasoning, I'd be very grateful if you could advise me as to my further choice(s) &/or best course of action.

The course I'd most like to employ is to raise the lvl of the standard Twinkle message (Uw-editsummary), but as you'll know, it's just a single-issue lvl-1 warning.

So, the courses I'm considering include:
 * Their MO & pie of edits is similar to others I/we may have met before. Could I legitimately suggest they are a sockpuppet?


 * Undo their successive edits, with warnings of vandalism? This on the basis that ignoring consensus constitutes vandalism. Then apply for block at Administrators' noticeboard or ANI after level-4 warning?


 * As above, but citing "not communicating in English". After all, if they're not communicating at all, isn't that worse than communicating in say French? Then remedies as above, after lvl-4 warning?


 * Reporting the user to Requests for comment - an unfavourable course since it involves me in I think much work (& others too) & would quite possibly simply be a delay.

As I say, I'd be very grateful for any advice you could give me - including perhaps a feeling for the potential pitfalls of particular courses of action I could take. Maybe there are other - & better / more efficient - methods I could employ?

I'll watch this page for any reply. Many thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 21:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * While I understand that it feels frustrating engaging people that ignore you advice I think the smart thing to do here would be to ignore and move on.
 * The lack of edit summaries in itself may be annoying, but it is not something that you should get worked up about. You can't say that Kante4 has ignored you either. He has responded to most of your messages and clearly gets what you want. The templated messages is not something that needs a response and is uneeded at this point.
 * Looking at his contributions I can't see that I see any big problems. He interacts with other users on user talk pages and responds to most concerns. Reverting constructive edits because of lacking edit summaries is not a good idea and will probably be looked at as disruptive. The only case for reverting "good" edits are when they are made of banned(not blocked) editors.
 * I don't think this is a sock puppet case either. When I looked at Danielwork I followed a hunch and digged in his contributions. After a while it was obvious that he was a sock puppet of Hectortebat. If you have any evidence in this case you a welcome to e-mail them to me, but as I said I don't think that is the case.
 * My best advice is to remove his talk page from your watchlist and move on. Rettetast (talk) 23:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your thorough - and prompt - looking into this. I value your comments & advice.

I could easily remove one user - indeed a group - from my watchlist, as you say, & move on.

I'd have to say, though, that it does trouble me that a user can totally ignore a guideline, with impunity.

From WP's point of view,
 * WP has a guideline ES
 * WP has a standard Twinkle message (Uw-editsummary) for users who ignore the guideline
 * Vandal-patrollers use ESs, to avoid the need to check an edit for vandalism
 * WP has a TOTD to support the guideline


 * WP has an advert to support the guideline:


 * WP provides registered users with the facility of the 'minor' flag.

Asking a user to supply a short ES, when making an edit - or clicking the 'minor' box - seems very little for WP to ask in return for the sterling service that WP provides for its users. And yet, in spite of the above 6 things, when push comes to shove, and a user ignores all such advice & facilities, the Wikipedia community collectively rolls over. It's as though we say to the user "Ok - you're right. Just carry on - ignore us. You do what you want & we'll hide.". It may seem as though the vandal-patrollers have no say, or no teeth.

The feeling that the WP community is powerless bugs me, and surely must bug one or two administrators, I would imagine - perhaps more so.

But I know you don't make the rules, & can only enforce those that exist & are collectively deemed enforceable.

Maybe my only legitimate path, if I feel strongly about it, is to start discussion at a suitable site - one of the Village Pumps perhaps.

But anyway, thanks again for your time. I'll have to wear my thinking cap a little tighter :) Best wishes, Trafford09 (talk) 09:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I have a similar problem. does not write ES, and when I left template:Uw-editsummary on his user talk, he simply removed it. What more can I do? --<font face="Verdana"> Eisfbnore  <font color="#00A693"> talk 13:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I sympathise, Eisfbnore. What a pain in the neck these non-ES users are.
 * There really should be an escalation path for responsible editors & admins to instigate. Trafford09 (talk) 15:44, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunatily the problem doesn't solve itself by removing his talk page from my watchlist, since he continues editing pages I watchlist without writing ES. bw, <font face="Verdana"> Eisfbnore <font color="#00A693"> talk 13:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Blocking
Hi, you blocked User:Danielwork for block evasion. Good! He was the same as User:Hectorthebat, no? Now I suspect to be the same person, based on their editing style. What do you think? Geschichte (talk) 10:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, danielwork was a sock of Hectorthebat. And this is without doubt the same person yet again. I have blocked. No need to wait. Thank you for the heads up. Rettetast (talk) 15:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 Noble Peace Prize Award Page
Please reinstate the protection of the page. It was attacked yet again. Cloudblazer (talk) 07:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see any need for protection on that article. Protection is the last resort. And the vandalism on that article is pretty quickly fixed anyway. May I ask you why you queried me about this issue? Rettetast (talk) 17:21, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The Archie Roberts page now has a correct reference to DataBaseFootball. SugnuSicilianu (talk) 05:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Shanti Swarup
Hi Rettetast,

You had deleted the article titled Shanti Swarup written by me sometime back. I understand this from your post on my talkpage. It seems it was deleted due to lack of sufficient reference. Now I have found a reference from the latest news paper article from a respected Indian newspaper named Hindu. Please find the link below.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/article1012571.ece

Please see if you can restore the article Shanti Swarup back with the above mentioned reference.

Best Regards, Kvnramesh (talk) 12:00, 4 January 2011 (UTC)kvnramesh

dominique proust
don't erase dominique proust ! you 're mad ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warinhari (talk • contribs) 20:44, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
I just wanted to give you a warm-hearted thank you for showing me the webpage http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/vis.php?mode=x, some time ago. I find myself using it more and more. Geschichte (talk) 11:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear that it is useful. Rettetast (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

RAF Northolt satellite image
Thank you for your message. I'm confused as to what has happened with the image, as it has updated in my watchlist as having been deleted by yourself. Could you help? Harrison49 (talk) 22:27, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it is a different image. Rettetast (talk) 22:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, my mistake. However, that image cannot be replaced with a free image as the site has been demolished. Harrison49 (talk) 23:10, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Assistance / A heads up
Greetings,

Thought I would let you know that a blocked user, SuperSonicx (better known as Jamen Somasu), is to back to his usual antics such as causing havoc to articles (like this one) and harassing me (see here) via based IP addresses from the greater Atlanta, Georgia area. I not quite sure what to do besides reverting disruptive edits. Seeing as you were the admin that oversaw the handling of his previous stint of mischief, maybe you could do something I don't know of. Thanks in advance. Digirami (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm. Well probably do best with WP:RBI. Edit summaries should be neutral, such as "rv banned editor". Edit summaries such as this is probably not doing anything good. Please ping me if you need admin intervention. Rettetast (talk) 20:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

"Check deletion list"?
I'd like to be able to check pictures that are on the National Register of Historic Places listing in --- lists before they are deleted. Can you let me know how to do this? I'd think that it will be much harder to check them after they are deleted - can you tell me how to do that as well? Smallbones (talk) 14:26, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Other than having the images on your watchlist I can't think of any good solution. Maybe there should be a toolserver script for watching images in articles that are in certain categories or marked for specific project. But I don't know any. Rettetast (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems to me the deletion process must be open to comments from editors who are concerned with various pictures, otherwise the process will lose its legitimacy. I have no idea why these pictures were deleted, or even how to find out, and that is a major problem, not so much for me, but for the process. Do you have any suggestions on how to find out? or on how to correct the process, if I can't find out?  Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Amartya Sen vandalism
Hi, would you mind erasing this from the hist, since the article is about a living person? Thanks, <font face="Verdana"> Eisfbnore <font color="#00A693"> talk 23:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think this meets the criteria for WP:REVDEL. Best strategy is to revert and ignore. Rettetast (talk) 15:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion
It seems that you are right; however, I would have preferred it if you had put a reason on the talk page.Ryan Vesey (talk) 18:55, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I created an AFD for that page, I thought you might like to know.Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hectorthebat again?
Do you think Unablemanager (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · [ logs] · [ edit filter log] · block user · [ block log]) is the same person? Geschichte (talk) 07:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. Rettetast (talk) 15:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

What about ? Geschichte (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Blocked. I have also deleted all the created articles that there was not any other contributions to since this user now can be condidered banned. Rettetast (talk) 20:19, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

FYI, I have blocked and deleted his contributions. Geschichte (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Good call. Rettetast (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I am not equally confident about this pinning one:. Hector again? Geschichte (talk) 14:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I blocked. The MO is the same with an account opened a little while after the last sock was blocked. Rettetast (talk) 20:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Advice needed re BLP category intersection
You were a big help to WikiProject Opera with category intersection at the beginning of the unreferenced BLP issue. WP:WikiProject Women's History needs a list of all articles bannered with WikiProject Women's History which are also BLPs (BLPs in general, not just unreferenced ones). I had a bash with CATSCAN, but couldn't make heads or tails out of it. Any advice? I've got your page on watch, so no need for a talkback. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:NORWAY dispute
Hello Rettetast. Please see User talk:Eisfbnore. My attention was drawn to a dispute at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway by AN3. We need the help of some Norwegian speakers. I see that you are an admin here. Do you agree with my suggestion to Eisfbnore? What is probably needed is a long-term block if the editor won't desist, but a better record needs to be collected before taking such action. I would be glad to hear any other suggestions you may have. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

re: Rollback
Hi, Rettetast. Thanks for the rollback rights. I shall review carefully how its supposed to be employed (made a mistake immediately after getting it) before putting it to use. Again, thanks. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 21:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

MfD nomination of WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Articles also tagged as a topic of unclear notability
WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Articles also tagged as a topic of unclear notability, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Articles also tagged as a topic of unclear notability and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Articles also tagged as a topic of unclear notability during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. GiantSnowman 19:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Pointless flag.
Hi there.

I noticed you removed all the managers national flags in 2012 Norwegian Premier League. I have absolutely no clue if the flags are pointless or not, I just made this article in the same "style" as 2011 Norwegian Premier League. I think that article that are about the same subject (in this case, Norwegian football), should look more or less the same - so if the flags in 2012 Norwegian Premier League are pointless, isn't flags in these also pointless?:, , , ,. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:26, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleted page
Hei- wanted to create the page Marianne Beate Kielland, but I only get the deletion log, with your name. What can I do- Nilsanders (talk) 14:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It works now- thank you -Nilsanders (talk) 20:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Grønland
Just wanted to thank you (belatedly) for cleaning up the Grønland mess. -Obscuros (talk) 01:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Unprotections of BLP defamation targets?
Your removal of semiprotection from Talk:Yelena Dembo does not mirror policy. Please take a look at PROTECTION, which states, in part, "Administrators may apply indefinite semi-protection to pages which are subject to [...] violations of content policy (such as biographies of living persons, neutral point of view)". Your unprotection of the talk page, without consulting the protecting admin, especially in light of the various arbitration cases, RfCs, and WMF policy statements regarding BLPs, was not the best course of action. You may recall that the outcome of the WP:Pending changes removal is that semi-protection was to be used in its place where needed for BLP concerns. Please replace the indefinite semi-protection. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there and thanks for your input. First I want to say that i fully agree with your action in putting the indefinite protection on the article and the talk page in the first place. My unprotection of it now was in no way intended as any critism of the protection you put in pace. However indefinite protection is different from infinite protection. At this point, over a year after the attacks on the article I found that protection on the talk page was not necessary anymore. The BLP-defamation on the article and on its talk page lasted for about two weeks in September/October last year. If the attacker had wished to continue the disruption it would have been no probleim for him to circumvent the semi-protection. The issue is probably long forgotten by anyone but us.
 * In all I could not see any reason for the continued protection of the talk page and unprotected. I left the protection on the article, but that could probably be lifted to. I would also like to note that I put all pages that I unprotect on my watchlist.
 * If you still think that the talk page still needs protection I am open to more views on the matter. Rettetast (talk) 13:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The continued protection of BLP defamation pages has to do with our (sometimes legal, always ethical) obligations to prevent recurrences. In multiple cases last year, not including this one, I committed that Wikipedia would not permit such anonymous defamation again. With Pending Changes gone, there is no other way to do that aside from infinite (not indefinite) semi-protection.  I think that once an individual has been defamed on Wikipedia, it is our obligation to make sure that does not happen again, using the tools at our disposal.  I agree that it is unlikely that this article or its talk page will be a target again, but unlikely is not an assurance. If we had protection in place, removed it for no good reason, and the defamation recurs, Wikipedia could be liable, since we've exercised editorial control over the article and/or talk page, and are not acting merely as common carriers.  Watchlisting such an article is good, something I routinely do, and the reason I noticed the removal of semi-protection.  I have been known to miss things in my watchlists before, though, and so I prefer that anonymous editing on the talk page and article of a BLP defamation target like Ms. Dembo be continued infinitely, or at least until her death.  Semi-protection is cheap, defamation on the world's 5th most popular website is a big problem. Jclemens (talk) 02:24, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't generally like to be an "I told you so" kind of guy, but one month to the day after you un-semi-protected the talk page, an anonymous IP once again defamed the subject at Talk:Yelena Dembo. I've suppressed the comments and reinstituted semi-protection there.  I'd love to be as optimistic as you, but the evidence continues to be that certain individuals just won't let things like this go. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:22, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

David Hanssen
Hi there.

Maybe my "notability"-tag on David Hanssen was misplaced, but from my point of view, (I don't know much about this player), I'd have to guess if he is notable or not: The article doesn't state that he played in Tippeligaen, only that he played in five clubs that have played in Tippeligaen - and nothing about matches played.

I believe he is notable (if I thought he wasn't notable I would have PROD'ed the article), but my concern is that the article does not state that he is notable and that's why I put that tag on the article. I haven't been editing articles on wikipedia for a very long time, so if I'm doing it wrong please tell me, but isn't that what the "notability" tag is made for ? Mentoz86 (talk) 22:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Rettetast,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

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Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 03:45, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

AliDia.jpg Deletion
Why did you delete this image? I listed it as CC 2.0 liscence and in addition even had an official release form emailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roamingkurd (talk • contribs) 00:28, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Lindsey Kildow listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lindsey Kildow. Since you had some involvement with the Lindsey Kildow redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). ~ &#8658;TomTom  N00  @ 10:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi, thanks for the welcome! Wikipedia is awesome, glad to be a part of it growing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NakedRaceCarDriver (talk • contribs) 06:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Rettetast (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

July 2012 Study of authors of health-related Wikipedia pages
Dear Author/Rettetast

My name is Nuša Farič and I am a Health Psychology MSc student at University College London (UCL). I am currently running a quantitative study entitled Who edits health-related Wikipedia pages and why? I am interested in the editorial experience of people who edit health-related Wikipedia pages. I am interested to learn more about the authors of health-related pages on Wikipedia and what motivations they have for doing so. I am currently contacting the authors of randomly selected articles and I noticed that someone at this address recently edited an article on Congenital Fiber Type Disproportion. I would like to ask you a few questions about you and your experience of editing the above mentioned article. If you would like more information about the project, please visit my user page (Hydra_Rain) and if interested, please visit my Talk page or e-mail me on nusa.faric.11@ucl.ac.uk. Also, others interested in the study may contact me! If I do not hear back from you I will not contact this account again. Thank you very much in advance. 90.210.83.229 (talk) 23:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

User:Roghue
Please tell me that you are 110% sure, and that you have evidence that User:Roghue is a sockpuppet of Sju hav. Mentoz86 (talk) 17:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Can this action even be effected without making the requisite notification at Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav? __meco (talk) 13:47, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * See the talk page of the user. Thanks for questioning this. Rettetast (talk) 22:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

auto=yes
FYI... you don't need to add yes in talk page banners unless you are a bot. If you are a bot, um, all hail Skynet! I love Skynet. Please don't kill me. Bgwhite (talk) 07:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hand-coding
Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

2013 Russian meteor event
Hi! That image you removed from the infobox was originally in the article body. Someone must have moved it. I've returned it to where I inserted it and added a hidden message instructing editors not to insert it in the infobox.-- Forward  Unto   Dawn  12:25, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Just a little note
Hi there. I wanted to let you know that I readded some of the flags you removed from the infobox of Norway national football team, even though I'm not a big fan of flag. My interpretation of WP:MOSFLAG is that these flags are allowed, which is the same flags that are present in more high-profile articles like England national football team and Scotland national football team. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
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deleting page - House by the Lake
Hi, why did you delete my page "House by the Lake"?

22:24, 29 June 2013 Rettetast (talk | contribs) deleted page House by the Lake (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (band/musician) (TW)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ompalompa83 (talk • contribs)
 * Hi. The page met the citeria for speedy deletion because there was nothing that suggested that the band met the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. You can find detailed criteria at WP:BAND but the main guideline is that the band has had to be subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. Rettetast (talk) 23:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Ompalompa83: But the band has been subject to coverage in reliable sources, see for instance the following: http://allscandinavian.com/7976/house-by-the-lake-dark-horse/ http://thefourohfive.com/news/article/house-by-the-lake-national-park http://www.nrk.no/urort/Artist/theHousebyTheLake/default.aspx' http://www.musicstories.lv/2011/11/house-by-lake-redwood-video-wedding.html

Request to take part in a survey
Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Paul Shelley
Hello I've created a Wikipedia page for actor Paul Shelley and added info now and then. I've noticed that someone, or several, during the years have added some info and also sharpened some paragraphs to the better. However, I now intended to add a sentence about Paul Shelley's participation in King Lear in Bath this summer but cannot access the page. I'm only left with the box thing with his name, age and place of birth. Can you help me access the page? I'm a Swedish fan of Paul S. Thanks for your help. Anaita (talk) 16:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

As to my question regarding no access to the page, I solved the problem. No need for you to answer. Anaita (talk) 08:58, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Norway Football Task Force
Hi! In an attempt to get better overview on what exists of Norwegian football articles I've created a task force. I'd like to invite you to join so we easier may improve the most important topics regarding Norwegian football. Feel free to invite other potential members. --Kjello (talk) 00:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not that active anymore, but I have put it on my watchlist. Good luck! Rettetast (talk) 17:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Sju hav?
? What do you think? Geschichte (talk) 11:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * - in my opinion it looks like Sju hav. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I notice that the user has been blocked so I have not investigated this further. Rettetast (talk) 18:02, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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Request for comment
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Please help
Please have a look at this and help if possible, I have no idea who to turn to with this so I'm trying to contact more experienced Wikipedians.

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Bring back the stub article on Creating Centro de Estudios Puertorriqueños
Hi Rettetast, you deleted a page that has been taking much of my time to research. You must have done this because you did not know the importance of this center, and may have thought it was promotional. They don't need any promotion and I am not linked to them in any way: Creating Centro de Estudios Puertorriqueños

I would appreciate if you could help me bring back the article.

Historian (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Undeleted per your request. Rettetast (talk) 13:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

lying
Dont add untruthful information you are lying — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:765:D692:FEE9:B55A:51C1:3E6A (talk) 22:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Question
This is not at all a criticism of you, rather that I want to get this down better myself. On Garnet you denied a RfPP request of mine, the page has had all nonconstructive edits, quite a few within the last month. Looking back through history, every edit from an IP or new user (so essentially every edit in the past couple of months) has been reverted. Would this be something that PC is better suited for? I guess what I'm asking is, how many nonconstructive edits in what period of time is needed for protection? Thanks!  Kharkiv07 Talk  23:23, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * We try to be very restrictive of when we use protection as it goes against on of the basic ideas on wikipedia, that anyone can edit. Semi-protection is usually reserved for stopping a recent influx in disruption or for articles that are an inherit magnet for vandals. It is however not used to stop a tricle of vandal edits over months. The best way to stop that is regular RC-patrol and watchlisting. Rettetast (talk) 10:27, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

9/11 Truth movement
That article, as well as any other 9-11 page should probably be semi-protected indefinitely. Lots of people wanting to add fringe opinions to those pages, or wanting to vandalize them. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Protection should be used sparingly. Regular editing should suffice for that page. Rettetast (talk) 12:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

SICILY VANDALISM
Greeatings...Why he has protected the page ... this is censorship. The user uses a language outside the regulations of wikipedia .. is able to give an explanation for all this? What's going on? Users who insult with his excessive violent are privileged clients  ... what kind of intervention? We eliminate the culture?--151.46.204.93 (talk) 18:40, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

FSU alternate text logo
Rettetast, what are the approved free-use Florida State text logos/word marks? I work mostly on articles about Florida Gators sports teams (Florida State's principal rivals), and I am familiar with the free-use word marks for the Gators, but not the Seminoles. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:44, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. You may want to update that "semi-retired" template at the top of your user page.  Cheers.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:45, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi. What excact image are you refering to. I removed a bunch of images that did not have a rationale for articles it was used in. I don't edit wikipedia very much anymore, but I am logged in regularly and may go on an editing spree when I have the time. Like last weekend at easter:-) Rettetast (talk) 13:16, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Gonzaga Alternate Logo and VCU Rams Old Wordmark Logo
Hello there!

I noticed that you commented out the File:Gonzaga Alternate Logo.png and File:VCU Rams Old Wordmark.png on the Gonzaga Bulldogs men's basketball and VCU Rams men's basketball yearly pages. I was very confused why you would comment these out in the first place, and to say that there was "no rationale use" for the images was rather silly.

Since you are from Norway, I do not think you understand college basketball in the United States, specifically the logos of each team. The images of Gonzaga and VCU represent the logos of those schools based on that season they competed. In that case, there is rationale use for those images, because they represent the logo of that school. If that isn't rationale, I do not know what is.

Please let me know if you have any further questions or comments, but understand it was not the right decision to say there was "no rationale use" for those images and put it up for speedy deletion.

Thanks! --User:NJ Jurrjens (talk) 08:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Mellotron (and historic edit wars thereof)
Hi. You recently wrote "Consider dispute resolution". To cut a very long story short, there is a longstanding feud on this article by a series of IPs who claim they have rights to the instrument, contrary to what reliable sources tend to report. Previous conversations have deteriorated into personal attacks and the occasional block (IIRC issued several of these), so I don't really have any confidence going to 3O or DRN is going to accomplish much other than more hot air. Since I don't want to fall foul of 3RR myself, the only option left is for more people to keep an eye on the article, trying to get a discussion going, and protecting if too many reverts are going on. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  09:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I looked at the history and there is simply not enough disruption to warrant a protections. Also I am very hesistant to use semiprotection on things that looks like content disputes. Rettetast (talk) 18:30, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

File:East And Central Africa Cricket Logo.jpg
Hej Rettetast, just wondering why you've been taking out links to this image from cricketing articles? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, I just think the articles in question would benefit from the inclusion of this image. Unfortunately, there is no alternative to its usage, other than not using it. - J man708 (talk) 00:12, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As a non free image it has to meet WP:NFCC. i removed it from articles where there where no rationale for its use per NFCC 10c. Rettetast (talk) 14:37, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, legalities of things such as this have always been a blind spot for me, unfortunately. Is there anyway that usage of this image can satisfy the requirements for it to be shown on the relevant articles, directly relating to the team and their history/results? Thanks! - J man708 (talk) 09:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks ok for East and Central Africa cricket team and East Africa cricket team which it also has rationales for. It is used in a bunch of other articles, that looks like blatant abuses of NFCC. The logo of an organization/team is generally ok on the article about that org/team, but not on any other article. If so was it had to be because there where some direct discussion about the logo itself. I am going to remove the logo from the other articles. Rettetast (talk) 20:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Being the logo of a non-Country national team, how does usage of this image differ from the usage of the Irish Cricket Logo and the West Indian Cricket Logo's usage on the articles not directly relating to the cricket teams themselves (ie. Tournament pages)? Again, I honestly don't have much knowledge on the subject, unfortunately. Thanks! - J man708 (talk) 04:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I looked at File:WestIndiesCricketFlagPre1999.svg and File:Cricket Ireland flag.svg. Those logos are tagged as free images and does not have to adhere to our non-free policies. Rettetast (talk) 18:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you know if the East and Central African cricket logo is a free image, too? I mean, the cricket board is now defunct and from that individual boards such as Kenya's and Uganda's have succeeded it. - J man708 (talk) 22:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably not. Rettetast (talk) 16:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Dejligt at møde en der taler det samme sprog :)
Kan du ikke, for min skyld, sige hvorfor du lavede det her edit? På forhånd tak :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 23:33, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC. Thsi is a non free image that only can be used on wikipedia in accordance to the NFCC - policy. Since there was no explanation why it met the criteria I removed it from that article, and probably a bunch of others. Rettetast (talk) 09:13, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Recent edit to Operation Barbarossa
The chances anyone holds copyright to this particular photo and are willing to enforce it are essentially 0 given the context.
 * That is only one of the reasons why we have a very strict policy on non-free images. If we are going to build free content, we have to limit the use of copyrighted material. I am prbably going to remove that image again. Rettetast (talk) 09:16, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

File:KLOVE 2014.png
You could have used the same amount of time (probably less with cut and paste) to add the FURs for those pages than comment the image out. Next time, be helpful, because this isn't helpful. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 20:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Knowing NFCC, adding furs would take hours. Rettetast (talk) 09:11, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Took me about 2 minutes, 3 tops. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 11:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

File:Florida Gators Woodmark Logo.png
Can I ask why you removed from all of the Florida Gators season articles? I was under the impression that it was fair use because it was just stylized text, is that not the case? And if its use is not allowed on season pages, then what about the wordmarks used on nearly every other NCAA program season article?. Thanks, ~ Richmond 96   T  •  C   05:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Same question for the DePaul Blue Demons season articles. ~ BUPetey    T  •  C   14:04, 09 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It was tagged as fair use. And it obiously failed WP:NFCC in the season articles. Rettetast (talk) 07:23, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Strictly Come Dancing (series 13)
I've given you seven examples, happening in barely more than a week, of obvious and persistent vandalism to this article. There's more if you look in the edit history, including one made since I made the most recent protection request. A previous temporary semi-protection of two weeks was granted on the basis of similarly persistent, near-identical vandalistic edits; once that expired the vandalism started again more or less immediately. Please explain why this article doesn't qualify for protection, as to say that "most of the edits are not vandalism" is blatantly untrue. Cwmxii (talk) 14:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Stale?
Stale? Looks the article exists in mainspace. Geschichte (talk) 21:26, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Deleted it. Rettetast (talk) 13:58, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,

Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
 * Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
 * Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news
 * When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
 * Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
 * The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries
 * JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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Proposed Deletion of Action Deafness
I noticed you've done some work on Action Deafness. Just to let you know, I've nominated it for deletion. You can see the discussion at Articles for deletion/December 2018CircleGirl (talk) 02:01, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
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This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
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Imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
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Proposed deletion of Vidar Bahus


The article Vidar Bahus has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "this footballing bus driver sadly fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG"

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 15:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Vidar Bahus for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Vidar Bahus is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Vidar Bahus until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Proposed deletion of Kjell Jensen


The article Kjell Jensen has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL"

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 19:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)