User talk:RevelationDirect/Archive 2011

= 2011 =

Hotcat
Hi there. I noticed you've been adding a lot of categories to articles lately. Have you considered enabling the HotCat tool in your preferences? (it's under the 'Gadgets' tab) It could make your work go a lot easier. -- &oelig; &trade; 09:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip; I'll check it out. RevelationDirect (talk) 12:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

John Deere
Please weigh in on the requested move I proposed here C T J F 8 3  chat 17:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * High Ctjf83. I'll leave a detailed reply on the discussion page. Mostly though, I'm just glad someone else is interested in Midwestern specialty vehicle manufacturers. (It's not a popular niche!) In the past, I worked a lot on Caterpillar but now I'm taking more of a look at Oshkosh. I'm sure either could use a 2nd set of eyes to catch all my mistakes.
 * I love the signature, BTW. Much cooler than this one: RevelationDirect (talk) 04:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

CFD
Re: that's OK. You're right that my intent was not to make a really broad all-encompassing statement, but I was sufficiently terse in my nomination statement that it could be interpreted that way, so you are not at fault. 05:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Replacing "service" with "woman's clubs" in Catholic Daughters of the Americas, Columbiettes and Daughters of Isabella
It seems to me that replacing "service" clubs category with "woman's clubs" tends to demean their work which, for Daughters of Isabella and Columbiettes, etc. eleemosynary. They are also "fraternal" but since they probably wouldn't like that word either, "woman's club" will do, but it just isn't sufficient to describe their community service IMO. Student7 (talk) 13:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The parent category to women's clubs is Category:Women's organizations in the United States. Would that be a better fit for these organizations? RevelationDirect (talk) 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * No. The problem is not that category, but eliminating any categorical reference to their service work seems dismissive IMO. That is their primary focus. It's like categorizing the NAACP as a "black persons club" Student7 (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ( is a subcategory of .) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Well they do have 2 other categories for the article but I admit I made a bad choice. They are equally overlooked. That is their problem. Let me ask directly. What is the problem about allowing a category that identifies the woman's groups as "service." What is objectionable to that? That is their primary function. Okay to categorize them vaguely. Why not more accurately as well? Student7 (talk) 16:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All three of these articles are already under Category:Knights of Columbus, which itself is under both Category:Fraternal and service organizations and Category:Religious service organizations so all of them are still under "service" categories, just not directly. You typically place an article under the most specific category, not every level in the subject tree. (There is an exception for the lead namesake article, Knights of Columbus, in this case.) For a clear cut example, I wouldn't place Parthenon (Nashville) under both Category:Greek Revival architecture in Tennessee and Category:Greek Revival architecture in the United States. That doesn't mean it's not in the United States, just that Tennessee is the more specific category. These are definitely service organizations, but KoC is the more specific category. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't understand 1) why the vaguest category is the most important. 2) why they can't be categorized under their most important function, and 3) why you think that "woman's club" is the most important and significant category. It seems chauvinistic IMO, which is insufficiently humble I am sure! :)  It's like saying the NFL is a "Men's Group." I know. I know. You will show me that indeed that is what it is categorized as, and it "rolls up" into "Sports Group" further up the line, if you stick with it long enough.  Student7 (talk) 12:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I moved the articles up out of the "club" category as proposed above. I've never known "club" to have a derogatory connotation but it may be a regional English usage issue. (There are actually vast numbers of men's football teams that do fall under club categories.) Your re-adding of a redundant category isn’t harmful I guess. Best of luck in your continuing fight against misogyny. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Red Men Hall
Thought this would be helpful as a potential source of new information for the article. Cheers, ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 22:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was having trouble finding that online! And thanks also for the citation cleanup. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Wilmington proper fully NRHP illustrated, State pf Pennsylvania {steamboat)
Rev D,

I finally got the city of Wilmington (proper) fully illustrated, but it may take awhile to get al those other Wilmington sites photographed! I was looking for supporting evidence for "Captain Horace Wilson and his son, Joseph S. Wilson who  ... were  long-time civic  and commercial  leaders  in Wilmington.  These men,  in  fact,  were  the  only  father and son  ever  to  serve  as  mayors of Wilmington," but couldn't find it at List of mayors of Wilmington, Delaware. I'm also looking for confiramation that the State of Pennsylvania (steamboat) was the first to host an out-going radio broadcast. Any help on the boat article would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Smallbones (talk) 01:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

You're invited to the Philadelphia Wiknic!


This message is being sent to inform you of a Wikipedia picnic that is being held in your area this Saturday, June 25. From 1 to 5 PM or any time in between, join your fellow volunteers for a get together in the Azalea Garden, just behind the Philadelphia Museum of Art 39.96801°N, -75.18316°W

Take along your friends (newbies permitted), your family and other free culture enthusiasts! You may also want to pack a blanket, some water or perhaps even a frisbee.

If you can, share what you're bringing at the discussion page.

Also, please remember that this is the picnic that anyone can edit so bring enough food to share!

Smallbones (talk) 17:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Woolworth
Category:Woolworth, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 01:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Category:This American Life people
CfD I previously created Category:This American Life personalities, which was deleted--what's the difference? Please respond on my talk. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:15, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

NRHP Photo Contest
Just a reminder that the WP:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest

will start on Friday, October 21.

Smallbones (talk) 01:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
--Kumioko (talk) 01:45, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Lady Lilith, Delaware Art Museum
I was wondering whether you're interested in the above articles that I've ben working on. Any feedback would be welcomed. Smallbones (talk) 18:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)