User talk:Rfc1394/2007

All of 2007

To allow my main page to be a bit shorter and more relevant, all material from 2007 prior to July has been moved here. Beginning of 2008 I'll probably move through September, depending on how much more is added. So currently this is the first 1/2 of 2007, rather than all of it.

County1 Template
There seems to be a problem with the Template:County1. See List of counties in Illinois as an example. You will see in that article that it is fine until Crawford County, but then it blows up. Same problem on List of counties in Montana. There is some discussion on the talk page for the template. I have played around with the list and have not been able to resolve the problem. I don't know enough about the template to know if it is a problem with the template or something with the way it is used. Jopgaard 03:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I am aware of the problem, but I do appreciate you letting me know about it. There is a problem in the Wikimedia source code with multiple inclusion of the same templates that call several inner macros or use result testing such as case statements, because the macro processor mistakenly believes, for example, in the case of a macro that has, say 100 or 200 lines, that the enire macro is being included, when perhaps it generates one or two lines. (For example, the macro that looks up the state, is called twice on each table entry (once to look up the FIPS page on the census bureau and once for the state name) and uses a case statement, thus, technically it references 100 lines it only generates two.)  This causes the macro processor to incorrectly estimate the amount of generated data and causes the page (erroneously) to cross the limit of 2 megabytes of generated data.  When a page is determined to have crossed the two meg limit, the macro processor will no longer translate further inclusions.  This causes spurious errors.  A workaround I have used to fix this problem is to use subst: in front of some, then save the page.  This will, in some cases, free up enough space to allow the page to finish renedering properly.  In some cases I've had to open, subst, save and lather, rinse, repeat several times to reduce all macro calls to the actual wiki/html code and once it drops to the point it isn't generating as much code, then it fixes it.  I have an idea on something I can try, I may try it in the sandbox and see if it works, if it does that will fix the problem.  Personally I'd like to keep the use of macros, they allow the page to be written cleaner, but if I have to lose the macros to get the pages to render correctly I'll do it. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 00:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Area code articles' number ordering
Heya. What sort of naming convention are you following when the article has two area code numbers such as Area codes 410 and 443; are you putting the numbers in numerical order, or are you putting the overlay number after the existing area code? Area codes 240 and 301 seem to be in numerical order, but Area codes 703 and 571 appear to have the overlay code after the existing one. -Taco325i 21:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

image madness never ends
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 * And again! :-)
 * --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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I have moved Ph:CheckUser to User:Rfc1394/sandbox. I am sure it does not belong in the (Main) namespace. -- RHaworth 14:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Kentucky county list
I like what you've done with your template on List of counties in Kentucky. Is it your intention to finish that work, or did you start it for an example for someone else to finish? Since I had just revamped the list, I had intended to nominate it for featured list before you began your work, but now your work will have to be finished before the nomination can happen. Please let me know. Acdixon 18:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * There is a problem; see below.


 * I revised the page because the new macros used to define the entries provide more information and make the internal format of the page cleaner (at least in my opinion). I shall try to finish the page by moving the rest of the entries to the new table format by the end of today, and then you can propose it as a best list.  Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 18:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Without question, the template makes things cleaner, and the external links ought to preclude the need for the second table. Just wanted to know if I needed to find the time to finish it or if you were coming back to it. I think between the work we've both done, this ought to be a shoe-in for Featured List. Thanks for your help! Acdixon 18:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed when I was adding the FIPS codes for each county, that in the list of counties which include histories, Wayne County is missing, but it appears in the census info list. This will need to be fixed; I will put the county in the table with empty history information and you can look it up.  Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 19:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out this error. I had intended to double-check the list and simply forgot it. I'll locate and add the appropriate information. Acdixon 19:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Your edit of January 26 created two tables listing the counties to change the article from your edit of January 15. Unfortunately when you did the edit of January 26 you left out Wayne County in the new table. You need to see if there  is a map image for that county.  I was just mostly checking to make sure I hadn't made the mistake.  I won't criticize because I've made errors too, and I realized that I could have made the same mistake, so the only suggestion I will make is when doing a long list of items, you might try comparing item by item against another list so you don't miss any; that's how I spotted the missing item.  I'm thinking it would have been embarrassing to propose it as a featured list and they point out it's incorrect, or worse, if it gets approved and it's discovered later that it was. :)  Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 19:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

This is kind of funny. I gather you copied the entry for Washington County to create the entry for Wayne County. When I was saving my changes I got an edit conflict. So I checked and found you had added the new information for Wayne County. However, the map specified for Wayne County was the map for Washington County! I did correct that, however. I find it kind of funny, so don't think I'm picking on you. :) Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 20:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you for correcting my carelessness again. I know you're not picking on me. We both just want a quality product. Acdixon 21:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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County5 template
Something seriously weird is going on with your County5 template. It was working fine when List of counties in Kentucky was promoted to featured list, but it looks like some people have been monkeying with it and now it's broken, as you can see by looking at the current state of the list of Kentucky counties. I'm not a good template editor, and at least one other editor has been stumped. Could you take a look and see if you could straighten out the mess someone has made? Thanks. Acdixon 14:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

List of counties in Kentucky
Thanks for adding the extremely impressive image map to List of counties in Kentucky. In the interests or readability, I moved it from the very start of the page to lower down. I restored the individual county maps, as they enable anybody reading the article to instantly see where the county there are interested in is. I also dropped the size of the image slightly to prevent horizontal scrollbars (you don't have to chnage the image maps co-ords for that). Tom pw (talk) 11:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, as you know, there's another 49 states to work through, should you have any free time :-) Tom pw (talk) 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this list. With your addition, it's now even better! I think Tompw's changes are good ones, but there's no question this map is a great new feature. Acdixon 13:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Source of Area code information
Hi, I'm working on adding some area and ZIP code information to US cities and towns, but need to find boundary files first. Do you have any TIGER files or shapefiles for the area codes of the United States? Any tables related to area codes (such as mapping city/town names to area codes) would also be helpful. The sooner I can get my hands on the data the better, so that I can add it to the articles, so let me know. Thanks, --CapitalR 01:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Glassroth v. Moore
Hello! I noticed that you are the creator of the article of a court case Glassroth v. Moore. I have a question regarding the case. This case said erecting a Ten Commandment monument at a courthouse is unconstitutional. But in 2003 the case Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia v. Chester County decided by Judge Edward Roy Becker of the Third Circuit ruled that a Ten Commandment display in a courthouse in Pennsylvania is OK. There is apparently conflict between the two cases. Has this conflict been addressed by SCOTUS or any other authority? Wooyi 18:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there has been a resolution of this conflict.

Well, having read, at least in part, the PDF of Freethought, I could argue that the court in that case had a different issue. In Glassroth, Chief Justice Moore had a large monument (essentially a large rock or piece of marble, I think) which weighed over a ton, installed right in the middle of the State Supreme Court entrance vestibule where everyone going into the building had to walk past. In Freethought the item in question was a 60-year-old brass plaque on the side of the building, and no real attempt to draw attention to the plaque had been made in decades. I think the issue in Glassroth was solved by moving the monument out of the building and onto a public park. So we still have a public display of the Ten Commandments on public land, but it's not in a place where it's being given attention to or where people otherwise have to go and are thus forced to see a government-sponsored religious display.

I think the issue is not of the government having a monument or display which references the ten commandments as much as placing it in an area where people who are otherwise forced to go there are required to be exposed to a government-mandated display of a religious artifact. Personally I think it's a stretch, but you could argue the Ten Commandments do have at least some legal relevance because of the prohibitions on certain conduct. Thus you can probably get away with the Ten Commandments but displays of a menorah and a baby in a manger are clearly improper. But even then, if the display is in a public park rather than on the grounds of city hall or the courthouse there might be more leeway given since people can decide to go visit the park or not; if they need to see their local representatives or sue or defend a suit, they have to go to the government building. This is probably why courts have found display of the Ten Commandments in schools to be unconstitutional because attendance in buildings of public education is compulsory.

It is arguable that there is enough difference between the two that the two rulings could stand. Take a look at the Lemon test and how the courts - specifically the Supreme Court - treat issues which may be both secular and religious in nature.

Now, if you were a city and wanting to allow a display of a baby in a manger, what you do is have some provision for allowing any group that collects some small number of signatures - say 100 - to be allowed to put up a display related to the holidays in December. They get a space of, say, ten feet by 5 feet. Petitions may be submitted any time, the period to display opens the day after Thanksgiving, and ends the last day of January. Petitioners must post a bond or deposit adequate to cover the cost of removing the display if they fail to do so, the deposit being refunded if they do remove all traces of their display, and there is no restriction on content as long as it is not in bad taste, obscene, etc. Now, as long as you allow anyone who complies with the rules to put up a display, regardless of content, you have a content-neutral display that would be permissible. But in that, if someone who otherwise qualifies wants to put up a satanic display, or an atheist one, they have to allow it. If it's content neutral, even though the content is religious in nature, the display would be permissible.

Personally, I think a display of the Ten Commandments represents a clearly religious-based display because of the provision of things related to the Christian concept of religion and should not be used on a government building. Now, if they only displayed the non-religious articles (which would probably reduce it to The Three Commandments!), I'd personally have no problem with it otherwise. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 02:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your long explanation. Now I understand more about this issue. My personal opinion is that no matter how the "establishment clause" get interpreted, it is not our priority to take off religious display from government buildings. Now we have the Iraq War, War on Drugs, Plame affair, and lots of more egregious government misconduct. A true civil liberties activist would target those things first and not to attack religion. Just my opinion, no offense. Thank you again! Wooyi 21:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

20 singles template
Hey, I was thinking about nominating Template:20 Singles (which you made) for deletion for several reasons, but am wondering why you created it, and if its existence is still a good idea, and stuff like that. It would be great to know if the template is still worth keeping. Thank you, Grace notes T  § 01:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I ended up creating a 21 Singles template, what it's used for is to show the years before and after a year listing single phonorecords in a given year. 21 singles gives me 10 before and 10 after the particular year.  An even number means I have to make one of them have more than the other than be even.  See, for example Category:1985 singles, which uses the 21 template.  Since you mentioned it, I've marked it with the delete template. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 01:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thank you! Grace notes T  § 04:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with edits at List of counties in Wisconsin
Somewhere in here, something went horribly awry... I don't have time to dig through it to figure it out right now, but thought if you have time, you might ought be better-prepared to fix it than I... Cheers, Tom e rtalk 23:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Example
I have made a change to the userbox on User example to allow people to learn how to look up their statistics page, that tells how many edits they have made. If you don't like this feature, either change it back or let me know. I think it's a nice idea that if someone wants to claim how many edits they've made, they can prove it, or they can look up their edit counts. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 09:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned on my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Several subpages of User:Example, I don't claim ownership of that account's pages, so there's no need to ask me whenever any change is made to them. In fact, I didn't even create its user page, only its user talk page. --cesarb 09:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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TV Market Templates
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'' {| class="navbox collapsible" style="margin: 0.5em 0em; clear: both;text-align:center; font-size: 95%;border: solid #000000 1px;" align="center" ! style="background:#ccccff;" align="center"| Broadcast Television stations in the Denver market (Nielsen DMA #18)  ''

The font-size must be at 95% -- otherwise, it would look too big.

Many thanks in advance.

-- azumanga 00:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Clickable maps
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Old images on Wiktionary
Hello! I'm a Wiktionary administrator who's glad to see you're still active in Wikimedia. We're in the proces of clearing out the last 50 images and audio files on Wiktionary, and moving them all to Commons. Long, long ago (Jan 2004), you uploaded a couple of images on Wiktionary. Would you mind uploading these two to Commons? When you do, please let me know so I may delete the versions on Wiktionary without losing any information. Also, if the file names have to change, please let me know what the new names are. I'd do this myself except that Commons has no migration tool that accomodates Wiktionary, so the image would appear under my name rather than yours, and I don't wish to take credit for your work. Thanks, --EncycloPetey 20:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * wikt:Image:Bang_icon_32x32.jpg
 * wikt:Image:Smile_icon_32x32.jpg
 * These icons have been uploaded to Commons, but as .png images. The references to them on the 3 pages of Wiktionary that used them have been edited to use the PNG images from Commons.  The JPGs on Wiktionary may now be deleted.   Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 07:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --EncycloPetey 07:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

bike permit
your edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AMeetup%2FDC_2&diff=145390244&oldid=145359840 isn't right - they haven't required permits in quite some time, just FYI. Aaronw 17:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I-35W Bridge map
Please see your Commons talk page. Thank you. --NE2 00:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have also left a note there. -Ravedave 14:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I also left a message there regarding the image. Chris! my talk 18:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

List of disco artists (L-Z)
I have reviewed and declined your request to delete the redirect List of disco artists (L-Z). If you click "what links here", all the main articles still point to the L-Z list, so the redirect is helpful in directing users who click links to the correct article location. If all of the links were changed, you'd have a better case for deletion. If you are still interested in pursuing the matter, please see Redirects for discussion.-Andrew c [talk] 23:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Mississippi River bridges
Thanks for creating the map. I moved it into Infobox bridge in those articles so the layout would look a little cleaner.


 * You're welcome; I'm using it as an 'excuse' to get more practice working with Inkscape. Yes, the articles do look cleaner with the map as part of the bridge infobox; in fact, I created another map to go further 'up' the current map and to add a few more bridges.  So on the pages that the old map didn't cover (which didn't have the map), I put the map in, using the info from the pages you changed to know how to put the map in the infobox.  In fact, if I had known the infobox supported a map I might have put it there first.  But thanks, anyway. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 18:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

By the way, the Short Line Bridge over the Mississippi River is still open, though not in the greatest shape. CP Rail (or Minnesota Commercial Railway) made some repairs to the bridge after last summer's fireworks vandalism, and as far as I know, trains are using the bridge again. You might want to update the map. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 17:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Uh, the article for the Short Line Bridge says some parts of it have a 50-pound weight limit. I and my wheelchair weigh ten times that much, so I think that 'closed' is an adequate statement until the article is corrected.  As long as the article claims the bridge is closed I don't see much point updating the image.  Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 18:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Template cleanup
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American films
Ah great idea for the films using the bold letter headers!! I thought I was having to do thes elists I created alone!!. Any work you can do will be more than appreciated ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you?" Contribs 19:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

However creatong a Template:Film Record is a terrible idea and has messed up the 2006 tables. How are users editing supposed to know which column is which when editing???? It also messes up the page alignment - I would like to use the full width of the page thankyou like 2007. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 20:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Whilst your work them is great can we please stick to the standard tables just with your letter headers - the problem is is that using templates to contruct tables is a bad idea. One slight change to the template and the whole entire list of films will be affected and it makes editing them confusing and difficult. Can we stick to standard please but incorporate your letter divides? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" <font color="Grey">Contribs 20:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

For instance you sleect edit on tha tables expecting to see the tables and you see just a. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 20:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Can we keep it like American films of 1993 ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 20:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Bug 2007 movie poster.png)
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FYI
I was doing some things with Template:Nuke Plant Table, basically I put the variables in another template and replaced the use in articles with that one. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 20:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Duoprism whatever-it-was image
Thanks for letting me know "menu" was removed. It was really annoying me, and it would annoy anyone in their right mind :) <font color="#FF0000">Powerfulmind <font color="#00FF00">Powerfultalk  <font color="#0000FF">Powerfuledits  22:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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Void marriage
You beat me in creating this. I'll work on it more. Bearian 20:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of 31st century
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List of North American area codes now a disambiguation page
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Conflict exchange
Hi, I tagged this as vandalism since I could find no sources - however you clearly are an exchange expert so it may in fact be original research. Needs some sources either way. Regards

Springnuts 12:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Texas area codes
I noticed on this map showed Cottle county and others to have area code 940. I'm certain that Cottle county and others nearby have the 817 area code, though I'm not sure about where one starts and the other ends, but this map may be a little closer to what it really is. Brian Pearson 00:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Looking at this entry on Whitepages.com shows that Cottle County is in area code 806. I looked at the area code 940 page and Cottle county is not present there. In fact, that's probably where I got the list of counties for each area code.  Nor does Whitepages show Cottle county in area code 817.  So I'm not sure what the problem is.  The map is not perfect, it's a rough drawing for approximation purposes (I am working on a better one but it's not ready yet), which is why the printed list of cities  and counties is supposed to be definitive in case the map is slightly off. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 02:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Area Codes
I noticed some maps of area codes from you, do you have a map for all area codes, or just certain ones? <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3  13:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Response please? <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3  00:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Excuse the delay in not responding, I did see your first message but I got sidetracked by other issues. I have one for the whole country, which I haven't completely checked for accuracy. I've been busy with some other things. I have since discovered a (blank) map covering the U.S. and Canada (not just the U.S.) so I'm considering moving my map to that one as a base for the complete map. If you're interested I can let you have a copy subject to the understanding it might have errors or omissions. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 01:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm just mostly concerned with my area code map, and neighboring ones..specificly 563,319,309..and I guess every Iowa one would be good too 515, 712, and 641...or are u sayin u just have them all listed, and i would have to make my own map? <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3  02:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a map of Iowa now available, Image:Area code IA.svg, check out the page for Area code 712 for an example. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 03:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, although all I really did to List of Iowa area codes was some copyediting. I agree that that's the way it should be done. Also, the new map looks excellent. Good work! :-) · <font face="Comic Sans MS"> Tygrrr ·talk· 22:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

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4F
The strangest thing just happened. I was reverting some vandalism, nothing too strange about that unfortunately, but the article itself, 4F, just seemed like a piece of garbage about a band that did not even seem to exist. The article was pure idiot nonsense. So, I tagged it db-band, and was just about to place a notice for same on the article creator's page, which according to the article history, was you. But, looking at your userpage, your list of contributions, etc., you did not seem the sort to create such an idiotic article. So, I looked back at the edit history, and found that MirokuX7 had hijacked what was by now a redirect to the Selective Service System article and turned it into the putrid mess I just a few moments ago restored to its status as a redirect. It never ceases to amaze me, the stunts people will pull. I thought you might it interesting. Cheers! ---<font face="Celtic"> RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive'  04:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I did think it rather strange that there was not an article about the "4F" designation 'til this year, but sometimes things happen that way. I will be keeping an eye on it, and the mischievous individual who altered it.  Cheers! ---<font face="Celtic"> RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  14:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

cy
Hmm... I created both templates... forgive me, but I have no idea what the use is of the new cy template. Kennewick, Washington doesn't really take longer to write than Kennewick ... so could you explain the new use? (My userpage was the only use of cy for the obvious reason that it's always substituted... I've found it to be a helpful redirect, personally.) <font color="#DF0001">Matt Yeager  <font size="3" color="#B46611">♫  <font color="#00AA88">(Talk?) 05:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll buy that. Good for you! <font color="#DF0001">Matt Yeager  <font size="3" color="#B46611">♫  <font color="#00AA88">(Talk?) 05:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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State Flags on Radio Market Templates
Hello, just wanted to let you know that while we appericate you adding the animated flags to the radio market templates, they are techincally not allowed and have been removed. The only flags allowed are like these and they are only to be used on pages about states, the towns in them, etc. Radio templates pretty much stay as they are. Now, if you would like to try and incorporate the little flags, please post on WP:WPRS, WP:VP and WP:AN and get consensus there. I doubt that will happen (most admin allow those tiny flags like above on city/state pages) but it is worth a shot.

Good job, though, on being bold with your edits. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Take Care....<font color="#0000C8">NeutralHomer T:C 14:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:American film table header
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Radiation Symbol images
On Commons, you contributed a magenta radiation warning symbol Image:radiation warning symbol-US.svg, which amazingly enough, is something less than 500 bytes. Then someone had the one for black on yellow, which you substituted another one, and while theirs was 5K, yours was again only about 412 bytes. However, yours was black with no background rather than black on yellow, so they reverted it. I took your symbol, put a yellow square behind it, and it comes up 2 1/2K. I looked at the file in Wordpad (fortunately SVG images are text rather than binary) and discovered Inkscape adds a lot of metadata which isn't really necessary for interpreting the image (or at least it isn't in this case), so I cut and pasted the rectangle as text from one to the other, and I come up with one that's 720 bytes, which is amazing, so I have replaced the previous one which was 5K. I have also re-uploaded the one you did so that it is also available by itself.

I have to admit that I was unaware of how much power the SVG specification has in terms of making images that can be much smaller (due to the capability for an image to replicate and rotate part of itself.) I like SVG for its capacity to automatically resize as the image is shrunk or expanded, but I didn't realize how really versatile it is, or how a master of the specification such as your self can do amazing things with it. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 23:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The "useless metadata" (that is, useless for every program except Inkscape and perhaps Sodipodi) is one of the reasons I rarely use Inkscape, and code most of my SVG files by hand. If you want to learn more about the specification, I suggest reading http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/ (not the whole contents, of course, but only the parts you want to use).
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Permanent HC placard.png
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Backgammon spoken article
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:FrootLoops.png
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Pepper-spray_flashlight
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