User talk:Rh2network

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Your contributed article, Renewable hydrogen


Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Renewable hydrogen. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Hydrogen. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Hydrogen - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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February 2012
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the username you have chosen (Rh2network) seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of a group, company or website.

There are two issues with this :
 * 1) It is possible that you have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, you must exercise great caution when editing on topics related to your organization or adding links to its website.
 * 2) Your account cannot represent a group of people. You may wish to create a new account with a username that represents only you. Alternatively, you may consider changing your username to avoid giving the impression that your personal account is being used for promotional purposes.

Regardless of whether you change your name or create a new account, you are not exempted from the guidelines concerning editing where you have a conflict of interest. For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. - Happysailor  (Talk) 18:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Renewable hydrogen
Thanks for posting your article. However, I must point out that Wikipedia (the English language one at least) is not for promotion, be it of people, things or ideas. You say that you "would like to spread the coined term "Renewable hydrogen". That is promotion - please see WP:SPAM. Your username appears to represent an organisation that you have linked to - that is also against our rules as listed in WP:USERNAME. The rules may differ from Wikipedia to Wikipedia - I've edited at about 16 different ones and have seen differences. Also, what you are on one Wikipedia only applies there. Here, I am an administrator. On the German and Hungarian ones I have to wait for my edits to be checked by a reviewer before they are finally added. (We tried it here and abandoned it as a system...) I have not deleted the article, nor have I blocked you from editing for having the wrong sort of username, but someone else may do so. I'm sorry that your introduction to the English Wikipedia has been like this, and I am sure that you have done what you have in good faith. Peridon (talk) 18:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC) Rh2network (talk) 02:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC) Thank you for the explanation. I understand that I have not read the guidelines for creating an article with enough care and will change the username although it may not really make a difference at this point. The term "renewable hydrogen" is another way of saying "green hydrogen" which is a term used by Jeremy Rifkin. There's already an article on him and in it there's a sentence that reads, "Rifkin was instrumental in founding the Green Hydrogen Coalition, consisting of thirteen environmental and political organizations (including Greenpeace and MoveOn.Org) that are committed to building a renewable hydrogen based economy.[13]." It introduces the term, "renewable hydrogen" but does not explain it in detail. Would it be acceptable to include it in the article, "jeremy Rifkn" or add it in this article as "see more" If that is not possible then I would just like to redirect anyone who searches "renewable hydrogen" to the page on "Jeremy Rifkin" and "renewable hydrogen economy" Rh2network (talk) 02:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC) I just found something on "renewable hydrogen" as a sub section under the article "hydrogen production" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production#Renewable_hydrogen I would just like to explain a bit more in detail of the energy efficiency when producing hydrogen from renewable energy and the process involved in the hydrogen production. Would it also be ok if I add a link and write an article titled, "renewable hydrogen applications"? ( a page that lists up the applications of renewable hydrogen in actual use) Thank you. Rh2network (talk) 02:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I would avoid mentioning your organisation if you do add bits to other things. I can see no reason why you shouldn't add information, so long as you can reference it reliably (see WP:RS for info on what is and what isn't reliable) - and don't bring your group into it as a link. That would most likely be regarded as spamming. The idea for a new page looks OK to me; once again, avoid looking as though are promoting something. Read WP:NPOV about the style of writing we prefer (and what we don't like...). Create it at User:Rh2network/new draft and get someone to give you an opinion when you think it's ready. Peridon (talk) 16:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I'll brush up on how I can contribute to wikipedia carefully following the guidelines next time. Rh2network (talk) 12:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Block
To help you conceal your COI, I have blocked this username because a blatant violation of our username policy. Please heed all the warnings above. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:20, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, if you come back, do not quote anything from the RH2 Network. I consider them unreliable. In one their documents I saw the ridiculous statement "unlike batteries, hydrogen can store an unlimited amount of energy". Storage in batteries is limited by the capacity of the batteries available. Storage of hydrogen is limited in exactly the same way by the tank capacity available. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)