User talk:Rhain/2022 July–December

A barnstar for you for your work on GANG Awards
Dear Rhain, a while back I looked-up the Game Audio Network Guild wiki article and was non-existing in English, and I could only find it in French (Game_Audio_Network_Guild). I was pleased to recently discover that an article on GANG's awards had come into existence, and that you were the main driving force behind its creation. For this reason, I present you with this barnstar:

Cheers, Al83tito (talk) 02:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Rockstar London/India
I wanted to give the "Rockstar Games studios" good topic another push. Although it's safe to say that most of these studios are not as well-documented as Rockstar San Diego and Rockstar North, I rewrote (or c/e'd an earlier rewrite) of four studios (Rockstar Vienna, Rockstar Vancouver, Rockstar Lincoln, and Rockstar Dundee) and GAN'd them. When I c/e'd Rockstar London and Rockstar India, however, I noticed that their coverage in sources was minimal (stubby almost), which made me feel like GAs would not be viable here. That would make them major roadblocks on the way to a potential GT. What do you think should be done here? IceWelder &#91; &#9993; &#93; 22:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I noticed your changes to the studio articles, great work! You're right about the India and London articles feeling a little too minimal; India especially, since it's literally just a paragraph. It's possible that they could still pass GAN—per WP:STUB, "there are some subjects about which very little can be written"—but, if not, a merge back to Rockstar Games (probably under "Subsidiaries", possibly even in the "Notes" column of the table) seems like the logical approach. The topic would still be eligible for GT if those two were redirects, per WP:GT? #1(d). I trust your judgement either way. – Rhain  ☔ 23:07, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure whether I would call these "great work". They're short, glued-together write-ups of contemporary sources. Still, they're a massive step-up from the terrible writing I employed years ago. I think I will put off deciding these articles' fates until I've dealt with the rest. Thinking about it, Rockstar Toronto will likely be a massive hurdle as well. The sources available for that studio are just awful. If you happen to randomly stumble over sources for any of these, please let me know (or just add them directly). IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 15:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
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DYK for Stray (video game)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

"Then it will be fixed on Wikidata."
Well, the problem about this is that far fewer people are active on Wikidata than here on Wikipedia. Therefore, entries there are mostly maintained by bots, which is why vandalism often remains unnoticed for a relatively long time.

I can't point to a specific case right now, but I was active on Wikidata for a long time and can confirm that the statements there are not always quite correct and it takes definitely longer for them to be corrected there than on Wikipedia; For example, if someone changes the link to the official website of a popular product in the English Wikipedia, it will usually be noticed in the first few minutes. However, if it is changed on Wikidata, it gets noticed at the earliest when one clicks at the link or when a person visits the Wikidata entry.

Therefore, I consider it a clear improvement if the links don't rely on Wikidata and frequent human checking anymore, but are incorporated within the article.-- Maxeto0910 (talk) 02:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend taking this up at Template talk:Official website if you're concerned, I'm just following the standard procedure. Wikidata has always had a fast response time in my experience. – Rhain  ☔ 03:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Woody Jackson
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Full Stops
I've been adding full stops to images in Doctor Who episode pages. By your revert on the poster one, I shouldn't do those at least. I still think I should do the regular images, some of them should have full stops anyway. ButterCashier (talk) 12:28, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Only full sentences should have full stops per MOS:CAPFRAG. Most (though not all) of the ones that you've added are inappropriate. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 12:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * E.g. the one on the Knock Knock episode page for Eliza, is that correct? ButterCashier (talk) 12:33, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No, that looks like a sentence fragment to me. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 12:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I deleted the full stop on Knock Knock (not that I put it there to begin with) and reverted some others on the posters from Series 7. Thanks for the information ButterCashier (talk) 12:45, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've reverted the remainder of the incorrect additions. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 00:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Stray (video game)
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About edits on GTA 3
Hi there, can you please manually remove mistakes in editing so that correct edits can be left in? The JP dates are used in Lists of Capcom games, which also uses the same source. Also, the source is legit, which means that Capcom is the legit publisher for the game in Japan.STB (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It's not being rebuked that Capcom is the publisher, it just should not appear in the infobox. The credit in the body has long been retained, which is fine. Also, in general, avoid editing content under discussion while you are waiting for the other party to reply. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 12:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

VI
Well, looks like we're going to be working together again over the next couple years (at least until 2040, when the first trailer drops ). It's more likely than not that you'll take the lead on this one, as my contributions are much more sporadic than yours.

One note (and I'll have to apologise if this creates headaches); in my editing practice, I tend not to include the accessdate parameter in my referencing anymore, but I'm happy to try make the effort for consistency's sake. Just to note why; access dates aren't actually required (1, 2) for articles with a published date, and as they're moreover redundant I'd rather save line space in the ref list by having just the archive date. Thanks for adding these to my refs though and apologies in advance if my style clashes with yours. We obviously need consistency in an article, so I'll do my best.

As the arc of the game's pre-release information trickle evolves, we'll probably need to periodically coordinate our editing more to avoid a duplication of efforts. —  CR 4 ZE (T &bull; C)  05:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Always happy to hear from you—and, of course, work with you (though I think you're being a little optimistic with your 2040 prediction; I assume we'll get another leak by then, but the trailer will still probably be a few years out).
 * Lack of accessdate shouldn't create any headaches; as you say, it's not required, and it's easy to add it in afterwards if necessary anyway. I expect that I'll continue using it, at least generally, but I have no qualms regarding its omission here.
 * I hadn't actually planned on doing too much work on this topic in the first place, but I noticed misinformation being added as soon as the leak became news, so I figured I'd get ahead of the curve and set something up—and now, with all the discourse surrounding the leak and the spiked interest in the topic, I can see that I'll be forced to stick around for at least a little while longer (through nobody's fault but my own). I wouldn't be surprised if I move away from actual content and towards general maintenance (a.k.a. making sure IP users don't set the place on fire) as we near release, but only time will tell for sure. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 06:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Stray (video game)
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Your GA nomination of Stray (video game)
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DYK for The Last of Us Part I
Vanamonde 00:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Nice to meet you
Thanks for your very prompt response on the Home Free talk page. I am pleasantly surprised to see that you have been an editor for almost as long as have I, but our paths haven't crossed before. I'm hoping to improve referencing and expand the article with relevant information, although my actual editing time is pretty limited as I've been working on another Wikimedia project, and still have some other duties that I need to maintain. I'd very much appreciate any thoughts you or other "regular" editors of the article might have about what topics/matters should be covered, and I hope you'll let me know on either my talk page or the talk page of the article. Risker (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message! Glad to have crossed paths. I don't intend on making any major changes to the article, but I'll definitely provide my thoughts whenever I see fit. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 15:43, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Last of Us Part I
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Where is Arwakarwa copywrited?
Where? John Hersey112 (talk) 09:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have evidence that the image isn't copyrighted? – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 09:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

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hi
hi im arlannn how are you? Arlannn (talk) 15:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd be better if you didn't vandalise in every single one of your edits, thanks. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 00:18, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Doctor Who (season 2)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Untitled Grand Theft Auto game
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 October 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 03:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Sales as a subsection
Why isn't sales a subsection of Reception in The Last of Us Part I? Osh33m (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Per WP:VGLAYOUT, Reception should "detail how the game was received by critics", which is not the case for Sales. They're certainly related, but not enough for the latter to become a subsection of the former, in my opinion. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 23:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * the WP:VGLAYOUT looks like its criteria could have been changed numerous times, though. Anyway, why do you want Sales to be its own separate section? Don't you think it would look better as a subsection of Reception? --Osh33m (talk) 23:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * How it looks is irrelevant; I'm more interested in accuracy, relevance, and consistency. To me, Sales being a subsection of Reception does not align with any of those. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 00:03, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Oh My God, Charlie Darwin
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Please stop removing poster edit on the HBO's The Last of Us page.
The poster attached has not been formatted in anyway. It is directly taken off the official website for The Last of Us to avoid compressing by social media. Any more reverts to the poster edits are in violation of the 3-Revert-Rule, and will be deemed disruptive.

Thank you very much, MoreFilms04 MoreFilms04 (talk) 01:54, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You've uploaded a copyrighted file to Wikimedia Commons, a site that only accepts freely licensed content. Per Infobox television and MOS:TVIMAGE, free images should always be used over copyrighted ones; in this case, the logo should be used instead of the poster. See House and Sesame Street for some FA examples of this. Note that 3RR does not apply to copyright violations, whereas WP:STATUSQUO does. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Untitled Grand Theft Auto game
I perfectly understand that “boy” specifies his gender and therefore seems more reasonable, but how come is a 17-year-old person considered to be a kid? Wouldn’t “17-year-old male adolescent” feel better? RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:42, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * At 17, he is still a minor. "Adolescent" feels far clunkier to me. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 09:55, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Technical requests of page moves
Hi there, I had seen the Draft of the next Game Awards iteration and then recently saw the article created separately. I also saw this edit summary of yours: Special:Diff/1121840334. In case you find yourself in this situation again, I just wanted to point out that the failed move page should point you to the WP:RM page, and if you use the technical request section (WP:RM/TR), providing a summary that the draft is ready to publish, then one of us page movers can simply swap the blocking redirect with the draft to preserve the edit history. Hope it works out next time! -2pou (talk) 17:03, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Percent vs Per cent
I noticed you reverted a user changing "per cent" in Untitled Grand Theft Auto game to "percent". Is this just some British English spelling that I'm not aware of or what? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 03:30, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Yep! You can find the relevant guideline at WP:PERCENT. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 03:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting! I didn't even know about that difference. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 03:34, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Grave of the Fireflies
Hey, there. While I've asked around on some of the WikiProject task forces for some additional thoughts on the plot summary format for Grave of the Fireflies, I've been thinking about getting Grave of the Fireflies to GA/FA status at some point in the future, using some other film FAs (i.e. Back to the Future, Jaws (film)) as points of references. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:18, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Go for it! It'll need a lot of work but it's in decent shape to begin with. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 08:31, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Do you think we should consider doing an WP:RFC for the plot summary or is it unneeded at this point? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:04, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Probably not needed, there doesn't seem to be any major opposition to the current phrasing. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 01:05, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I thought about soliciting more opinions with an RFC (which might not be needed, like you said) or a potential straw poll to get a consensus for some suggestions we might have for the plot summary. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:22, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd leave it, but do whatever you think is best. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:22, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood. I was just trying to help, as usual. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course; I don't believe anybody has suggested otherwise. Keep up the good work. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:48, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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Featured editor for the VG Newsletter
Hello Rhain! I've decided to go ahead and try and bring back the VG newsletter. Looking at the talk page for the current draft it appears that you were chosen for the featured editor for the newest issue. Are you still interested in being the Featured editor? If not I'll try and find someone else.... somehow. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:11, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear somebody is interested in reviving the newsletter! I'm definitely still interested in being the Featured editor, if that remains on the table. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 00:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That is indeed still on the table, mainly because from what I saw on the talk page it was either you or Shooterwalker. I'll give you the questions since Panini! had already gotten some for you before the Newsletter died. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:05, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll also be using some questions from the current newsletter since a lot of them aren't specific to one user. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's the conversation I had with Panini! about the interview last year, in case it's of any relevance. May also provide some vague context on the newsletter's hiatus. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep I read that. I don't really understand why the newsletter went on hiatus because of one editor considering Wikipedia is run by millions of people who can all help contributing. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 02:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Because it's a lot of hard work—it's really as simple as that. Most of the 120,000 active users prefer to focus on mainspace, not talk- or project-related content, and WP:VG is only a very small part of that pie. Nobody else volunteered after Thibbs stepped back, so the whole thing took a break.
 * Thanks for the questions, but I think previous interviewees have answered them directly in the queue rather than on their talk page. Second question is also very outdated, since neither article is in my sandbox/draftspace anymore. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah my bad. And I didn't know that was how it worked. I'll go ahead and omit the 2nd question then. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 02:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello Rhain! I have the questions in the queue and I'm waiting for you to answer them. Feel free to answer them whenever however i would like to get the newsletter out before Christmas (As I go on vacation around that time). ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 14:21, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Crime Boss: Rockay City
I noticed you created the redirect Crime Boss: Rockay City, to an article that does not mention "Crime Boss: Rockay City". Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:24, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 15:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The Game Awards 2022
Greetings. Regarding this edit: in current version it's only stated that Keighley felt the bots were uninvolved, even though he later explicitly confirmed that they were. If you're considering the latter "unnecessary/unrelated information", it's better to get rid of the first part too, otherwise the article is straight up lying.

Also DTF is a pretty trustworthy source as long as you don't use UGC blogs. The staff is professional game journalists previously working on popular magazines like Igromania, and it has over 3 million monthly views. It's also included in ruwiki version of "Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources" page.

I do apologize if my bad English was one of the reasons of edit reverting. Facenapalm (talk) 22:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've some of the changes. –  Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 01:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am just curious why removal of a source that doesn't match up with the general consensus about the event is not a good reason for removal? Mrlambert12 (talk) 23:48, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * "general consensus about the event" seems to be a pretty major assumption on your part based on the nomination alone. In any case, a short sentence from a reliable source certainly doesn't feel like undue weight to me. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 01:39, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No my assumption of general consensus is based off the nominee being critically acclaimed, generally popular and being on many peoples best of 2020 lists. I do think its undue weight because the source is textbook definition of a minority opinion among critics. While there is nothing wrong with dissenting opinions themselves it doesn't belong in a article about general reception of the event. Mrlambert12 (talk) 03:26, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * "the nominee being critically acclaimed, generally popular and being on many peoples best of 2020 lists" is entirely irrelevant. The section is about reception to the show and its nominees, not the general consensus of the game. "it doesn't belong in a article about general reception of the event"—no, this is where it belongs the most, since it's specifically in relation to the event and its nominees. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 04:03, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

TFA nomination
Hi there, if you would like Roberta Williams to be considered for TFA in February, you need to think about nominating it. Regards. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Question
Thanks for correcting my edit on TLoU page - I see that the link to Cordyceps fungi was not necessary where I places it as it was already provided above. Just a qustion on why my edit was labelled 'good faith edit'? Was bad faith was assumed from me? Ar not all edits assumed to be 'good faith edits'? Thanks (and apologies if the question is misplaced here). CorradoNai (talk) 05:47, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your understanding. Your question definitely isn't misplaced (though keep in mind new talk page topics should be added to the bottom). A lot of edits are generally assumed to be made in good faith, especially your edit in question. I can't speak for other edits, of course, but I generally label reversions as "good faith" when I want the other editor to know that I harbour no hard feelings—essentially a way of saying "thanks" before explaining the reason behind my reversion. And, for what it's worth, I use a gadget that specifically gives me an option to label a reversion as "good faith", which is what happened here. Hope that makes sense. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 11:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rhain (and apologies for placing the question at the top) - it does make sense now. Many things to learn on Wikipedia, it's a steep learning curve. Thanks for helping! CorradoNai (talk) 18:51, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

A song for you
Hello Rhain. I hope you are well. So this is the first time since the Doctor returned to our screens in '05 that we haven't had a Christmas or New Year's episode. Leon sums it up best for me :-) Best wishes for your 2023! MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:43, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

List of characters in GTA: Vice City
Hey Rhain,I've been thinking on further exploring GTA characters,in this case Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and I figured a person like with much experience on Wikipedia editing,referencing,citations and all that like you could help me.By Creating the article "List of Characters in GTA: Vice City" we could further explore on the characters of the game,but again I ask to hear your opinion on this. Kabelo Lesooana (talk) 15:03, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I recommend you read this to see why this article (and all others about GTA characters) were deleted in the first place. I don't believe they are appropriate for Wikipedia. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Another question (actually, more a request for help)
Hi again Rhain, I'd have a request for help disguised as a question. I hope this is not misplaced and you will forgive me. I have created an article for submission on Fungi in Art. It's currently submitted from my sandbox. It's actually very long. I would thoroughly appreciate any help from experienced wikipedians in reviewing the article for acceptance and any feedback towards improving the article. I think it is a fascinating topic. Many thanks! CorradoNai (talk) 18:17, 29 December 2022 (UTC)