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Syrian Civil War Map Updates
Cizire Canton has been identified as a reliable source despite being pro-Kurd for previous edits on the Syrian Civil War map. Also, why is using a map as a source for edits forbidden?Prohibited Area (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Prohibited Area you forgot to read the top of the talk page: Important message from creator of map: Please read. Some times I do not see why we should not use maps, but that does not matter. As for Cizire Cantons I don´t know how reliable he is… I can say I hope he is right but as an example I can say that there has been no reports of that the cities along M4 highway Abwah and Surab Sharqiya have been captured by YPG. No reports what so ever, the only one stating that the are i under YPG control is him. There is another pro-kurd map-maker sylezjusz that is in constant conflict with Cizire Canton and he has yet not shown YPG persons in the mentioned area.Rhocagil (talk) 14:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Cizire Canton has been used in the past however it is a pro-Kurd source. It frustrates me that you cant use reliable sources for advances if they favour he advancing party whilst you can use apparently unreliable sources for retreats of favourable party. Sources should be based on reliability not on whether they favour a party to the conflict. I havent found any sources specifically relating to the liberation of the villages along the M4 but have found some sources claiming the M4 is under YPG control, most however are pro-Kurdish Prohibited Area (talk) 14:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Prohibited Area Yes i know it has been used a lot of times and the rules of editing have as well been broken a lot of times. And i f you see any sources of M4 please present them, news is always interesting. What bothers me with the maps today is that this map published today by Cizire Canton and this map published today by Sylezjusz have many differences. What bothers me especially is that Sylezjusz indicates SAA presence to the north-west. Witch of those should we trust? I think both guys have local connections. Rhocagil (talk) 16:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

The sources are just maps which are not viable sources for editing the map, however they are made from a variety of amateur sources. In regards to the maps I would trust Sylezjusz as the SAA was known to hold positions west of Hasakah city prior to the ISIS offensive. I don't think ISIS ever attacked these positions and there has been no reports of YPG-SAA conflict in these areas therefore suggesting that the SAA are still present unless they have since withdrawn. Prohibited Area (talk) 17:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: Khirbat Zammalah
✅ Thanks for the notice! Regards,-- HC PUNX  KID 00:28, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Re:Tall Dadin
✅. Thanks again. Regards,-- HC PUNX  KID 23:48, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Al Eis
The town Al Eis to west of the Al Hadher under control by Syrian troops. http://www.syriahr.com/2015/11/%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7/ 46.201.74.27 (talk) 21:43, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 46.201.74.27 Somebody already fixt the edit.Rhocagil (talk) 22:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Homs province
SAA recaptured Hawareen and Tall Daher hill.source so this clearly confirms that ISIS retreated and Hadath under SAA also earlier Hadat was erroneously marked as contested because then source only said that clashes was near Hadath but not inside village.here
 * SAA retake: Army Storage Base near Mahin.SOHRStep News AgencyAksalserAlkhaleej Onlin Jabal Mahinsource and SAA retake parts of the town Mahin.SOHR 46.200.240.93 (talk) 21:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Malikia

 * We cant marked as jointly control of YPG and FSA here the village of Malikia. Becasue source said that Jaysh al-Thuwar retake this village from Al Nusra and source but Ahrar Al-Sham which is a part of Syrian rebels which is allies of FSA). Also other pro-opposition sources clear said about clashes between Rebels and YPG in North Aleppo countryside wher YPG trying to storm Al-Malikiyah. Se talk pageher and reliable source reported that the YPG and Jaysh Al-Thuwar struck the rebels in northern Aleppo, targeting the Jabhat Al-Nusra and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham controlled villages of Kashta’ar, Al-Ziyara, and Mulkiyah near the city of ‘Azaz.here So Jaysh Al-Thuwar help YPG in their clashes against rebels and we need put Malikia to yellow Dot_yellow_ff4.svg. 46.201.74.151 (talk) 12:56, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You are making no sense Rhocagil (talk) 13:54, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * But when the YPG forces fight against the FSA/allies and Al Nusra in Malikiya no of any sense put the village as joint control between YPG and rebels and when all pro-opp. and reliable sources report that the YPG try to storm FSA-held village Malikiya.sourcesourceQasioun News Reliable source earlier said that Jaysh al-Thuwar together with YPG was trying to storm FSA-held village of Al-Malikiyah.here Also pro-opp. source said that the clashes still ongoing in the village of the Malikiya.here So we have conflict between YPG and rebels. Malikiya under control YPG or contested between YPG and rebels but not under jointly control. 46.201.74.151 (talk) 15:26, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Jaysh al-Thuwar and YPG are in the SDF together and in the Hasakah region we mark cities under their control like this. I know this is a bit messy but it´s the best alternative. I have described an alternative earlier to add "SDF" to the description of the yellow dot under the map. Then all SDF-dot could be yellow and you would be right, but this is not the situation as it is.Rhocagil (talk) 16:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Jaysh al-Thuwar and YPG coopirated with rebels in Hasakah province but in Aleppo province Jaysh al-Thuwar cooperat with the YPG against Al Nusra and rebels.here SOHR clear said that the clashes between Jaysh al-Thuwar against Jabhat al- Nusra and the rebel and Islamist factions are still taking place around the village of al- Malkiyyah located in A’zaz area and around Mathanet al- Faysal near the village of Keshe’tar north of Aleppo.SOHR So need noted the village of Malikiya as under control YPG and allies Jaysh al-Thuwar. Because the Jaysh al-Thuwar retake Malikiya from FSA, Islamic insurgents and Al Nusra but we noted this village as under their joint control. This is nonsense. 37.52.29.233 (talk) 17:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Why don´t you raise this discussion on the talk page instead? You can´t blame me for this! I won´t edit the map in one way in the east and another in the west. I said I do agree to make all "joint control lime/yellow" in to "yellow" if we add "SDF" to the description of the yellow dot under the map. But thats not up to me to decide. Debate this on the general talk page not on my talk page. Rhocagil (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)