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Well, Destruction of ivory is now on ITN. This can be both a blessing and a curse for the article since a lot of people will have opinions about it. I'll help you keep an eye on it for a while. Cheers, w.carter -Talk  08:30, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well this is neat. That little bump to the left is the DYK. :) I guess I never thought about it, but ITN sure does seem to get a lot more eyeballs than DYK (and I suppose with the big event in Kenya it's also more timely). FYI I did a bunch of work to it this morning and went ahead and nominated it for GA. Might as well get it into the queue. Hopefully it's not too premature. :) &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 17:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, the pull that an article gets from media, which is what put it in ITN in the first place, is usually quite significant. When I first heard the news, I looked for "ivory burning" not expecting to find anything than perhaps a mentioning of it at some ivory trade or save the elephants article, and I was fully prepared to start writing one myself. Imagine my surprise! :) I hope you get the help and inspiration you needed to complete the GAN. Once it is off the main page, you can work on it a bit more in peace and quiet. I have an article I was working on when I managed to get it to ITN and that raised a lot of help. Some day when the stone has gathered some additional history, I can bring it to GA. For now there just hasn't happened enough with it yet. w.carter -Talk  20:43, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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Would you like to support the creation of and/join the proposed Wikiproject for Encyclopedias and/or Reference Works--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 22:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me! Thanks for the heads up. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

MovePage parameters
I saw your sandbox and suggest this: fullurl is a cleaner and more portable way to make url's. The double EE in FULLPAGENAMEE and BASEPAGENAMEE makes url encoding so it works if the page name has spaces or special characters. wpReason=moving%20draft%20to%20mainspace works but urlencode is more flexible and allows more characters to be used if the text is changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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Well then, seems I missed the fun. No objection to how it ended up, and it's good to see that other editors and admins agree. Thanks for keeping me in the loop. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * Weird. Don't know why this was sent through AfC, but sorry you spent time on it. Moved to nest usurpation (see Talk:Nest usurpation if you care :) ). &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 12:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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I have undone your undoing. Daniel Greenberg is one of many founders of the school, and in many forums he has rejected and denied the claim that he founded the school. It was a collaborative process, involving many persons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diodotus (talk • contribs) 13:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. My impression was that among the reliable secondary sources about the school, Greenberg is typically given as the founder, but looking at the sources we currently cited (which are unfortunately lacking -- but that's another issue) it looks like I'm mistaken at least as far as they are concerned. As an aside, please remember to use edit summaries (the little text box next to where you click "save"). Changing an article to give/remove a person's "credit", without explaining why and without citing a source, is usually a red flag for vandalism or opinion (especially on a school's page, unfortunately). Thanks for the message, though. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 13:21, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * ping - the discussion continues in VPP about the proposal - your input will be appreciated. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I've been trying to spend less time on Wikipedia, but all that seems to have changed is I'm avoiding threads/projects that I know will take time. That, and I was annoyed with the RfC starting in that old thread without discussion first. Nonetheless, might as well move forward. Will try to get to it in the next couple days. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 14:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks. based on, it seems that the source of your annoyance ceased. i am not familiar enough with enwiki politics to revive this proposal, and will be grateful to you if you can do something to get it back on track. it seems silly to me that a proposal which received in its initial introduction significant number of "support"s and not a single "oppose" should disappear as a result of a single person's disruption, especially now, that the disruption is gone. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 23:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * Looks like an IP added an AfC tag for some reason....Yes, it's certainly unfit for mainspace. Created during a deletion discussion as an alternative, then the thread went in another direction. It'll probably wind up trashed, but I see no rush. Never intended for AfC, of course. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 23:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Becoming Course Instructors
Hello,, are trying to find out how we can become course instructors/coordinators. is setting up a course at the University of Edinburgh and wants the course page to be ready by mid-July and will be running a course at University College London as well. Best, --Flycatchr 16:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi there. First off, I want to ping, who works with the global education program at WMF, as the organization I work for, the Wiki Education Foundation, is only able to support institutions in the US and Canada right now. The course instructor right is basically a license to create a page using the "course page extension" like this one. There's also another tool called the Outreach Dashboard, but I'm not entirely sure how integrated that is to the education program and/or if Tighe would recommend using one or another, so I'll defer to him. If you haven't come across these sites yet, you may want to explore the Outreach Wiki's education page and Wiki Education Foundation's materials (we can only support US/CA, but there are lots of materials anyone can use there). &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 16:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for getting back to us. I've already created a couple of course pages and I suppose I was able to because I was given campus ambassador rights. I'm just wondering whether it's such rights (course instructor, campus ambassador, etc) can only be granted by an administrator on Wikipedia. --Flycatchr 16:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

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Hi there, hope you have a comfortable wikibreak. Having just finished a successful GAN, I thought I'd take a look at Destruction of ivory for its upcoming GA review while things are still fresh in my memory. There are some tweaks I'd like to do, if you don't like them, please feel free to revert them. Just thought I'd give you a heads up. Best, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  09:08, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * These look good. Thanks. I do tend to try to stick to prose whenever possible, but you're right that the section looked a bit like a list already, so that change might make sense. As for a wikibreak... I'm so bad at those. :) &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 14:02, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Bad at Wikibreaks, I can totally relate to that. :) I should be working now... I'm also pro-prose, but sometimes that may not be the best way. I'll continue with looking for thing to improve in the article later tonight. I'll keep in touch. <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  14:07, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me just say that this back and forth editing we do right now is something I find very productive. One MOS rule may be countered by another MOS rule, one improvement lead to an even better improvement, new ideas emerge and so on. I always like having my work challenged, that's the way you learn new stuff and come up with even better solutions. Cheers, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter  <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  21:53, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed, although given the whole quasi-wikibreak thing, I don't think I'll be able to reliably keep up a back-and-forth...but who knows :) &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 21:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I was only referring to this evening (or whatever time it is where you live). :) Won't disturb you tomorrow or during the weekend, you deserve a bit of Wiki-Holiday. :) <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  21:59, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Time stamp only
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At the AfD for LawnStarter you signature didn't work - only your time stamp. Here is the diff. I hope you don't mind me letting you know. Regards --- Steve Quinn (talk) 05:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It might be fun to change my username to User:The present time and only sign with a wikilinked timestamp. :) Thanks for the heads up. Fixed. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 05:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ha ha! That would be a good one! It would either cause confusion every day that you edit or you'd have editors checking your user page everyday to see who it is :>)---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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List of YouTubers
Hi. This is MetallicaMan800. You see, I'm Timmy Fellows and I have 112 subscribers on my YT channel. I added myself to the list because I thought it would be cool to be on the YouTuber list. The only problem is that I have made a Wikipedia artical on myself on multiple occasions, but have all of which have been deleted for no reason. And if there WAS a reason, I should have been told. In this message I'll leave the links to the two that I remember the links to, both will say that the pages were previously made, but deleted. If you could find some way to get me back on the List of YouTubers, that would be great. Thanks in advance.

Links - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timmy_Fellows & en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThatSkynyrdKid_70

-MetallicaMan800 (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned on your talk page, the way to be included in the list -- and the way to have an article in general -- is to provide evidence that there's been significant coverage of you in reliable sources. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it has a standard called "notability". Basically, we defer to other reliable sources to determine what's important. That means we don't include some important thing if they aren't covered extensively elsewhere. As I am not an admin, I can't see deleted articles, but I can see the deletion reason: "No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events)". THat usually means the article was just included on Wikipedia for the sake of promotion or including on Wikipedia, or otherwise doesn't make a credible claim for why it's important. Wikipedia has a long list of things that it its not, and yellow pages, linkfarm, directory, platform for promotion, etc. are all in there.


 * Also, Wikipedia has rather strict rules about conflict of interest editing. It's a bad idea to create articles about yourself or promote yourself on Wikipedia. It's impossible to be neutral about oneself. The idea is, if something or someone is notable, others will create the article in due time. Sorry. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 14:31, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh. Well, if it has to be like that, then I should tell you that I have been sent 1 fanmail. Yeah, I know it's so fricking lousy, but like I said previously, I have 112 subscribers on my channel. And I'll let you check out my channel and see if it's significant enough to be featured on the list. http://www.youtube.com/c/TimmyFellows Again, thanks in advance if you can help. :) Also, here is the link to the ThatSkynyrdKid 70 article on the Wayback Machine, which I captured before it was deleted.: http://web.archive.org/web/20151026155739/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThatSkynyrdKid_70 MetallicaMan800 (talk) 15:06, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

You may kowtow at any time, and showering of gifts would not be amiss if you wish to curry favor...
Blatant facetiousness in the title aside, the Straightgrain SPI is a perfect example of why I keep at things that I feel are problematic. Something very small ended up being the key to a much bigger issue that was unrelated to the original indicator. MSJapan (talk) 19:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure I know what yo mean. Given recent history should I take this to relate to my message about Kvng? &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 20:19, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Fiverr
Can't this be reverted back to the last version instead of deleted? It has attracted a lot of paid editors but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I apologize. One of the socks imported and translated articles from other Wikipedias (e.g. Wok to Walk). I saw that one of his/her edit summaries on this article said something along the lines of "translated from the German article" and I mistakenly thought it was one of them. I see now that this was not the case -- that many other users have contributed a lot of content to this article over a much longer period so I've removed the prod and simply rolled back a few edits. Sorry for the confusion. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 20:21, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. That makes more sense. I figured something like that happened. Regards, Mark Schierbecker (talk) 07:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Topic bans
If I become aware that an editor is violating existing topic bans for the umpteenth time that were imposed almost 5+ years ago and for which the editor has been blocked for violating multiple times over the years, what's the first step I should take? I've never reported anyone for anything before, but I don't want to waste more time on the talkpage, because I feel like we're not having the same conversation and I can see in talkpage archives on other articles that almost identical circular conversations have been going on for the past 5 years and they never get anywhere. —PermStrump ( talk )  11:30, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * As an admin, might have the better answer. I think I see what you're talking about. It looks like a fairly straightforward violation. If you want to be unnecessarily nice, you could leave an umpteenth+1 warning and see if he backs off. My next step after that would probably be to send a message to the most recent blocking admin, who also closed one of those threads that resulted in a topic ban, and who is still active. My guess is that would be all you need to do. Otherwise, however, it would be a matter of gathering the links to the topic bans, plenty of diffs worth of evidence, diffs making clear he should know this is a violation, and taking it all to ANI. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk  \\ 13:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the N+1 warning shows your willingness to work with people even when annoyed and won't delay anything more than a day or two - David Gerard (talk) 17:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * and Rhododendrites: Thanks for the advice. When you put it that way... I suppose I should make one attempt to be "unnecessarily" nice and give a N+1 warning (I think I figured out what that is from the context) the next time their editing is disruptive. :) —PermStrump  ( talk )  04:57, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together
If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready.
 * Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor?  Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
 * Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 21:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)