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question re wikimedia nyc membership
hi. I think I already joined a while back as a member of Wikimedia NYC, at the web page https://nyc.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership Could you please tell me how I might check on my membership status? please ping me if you reply. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * by the way, I would be interested in getting more involved in the chapter, and possibly taking on some role. so perhaps we could discuss that sometime. I would look forward to working together and helping out. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . Regarding membership, I'd have to ping, who I think is most likely to have our list of members. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 21:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, that sounds terrific. feel free to let me know the status. I'm happy to pay the $5.00, I just want to try to clarify if this has gone through or not. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 13:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * hi. sorry to bother you, but I have not received a reply on this yet. is there anyone who actively replies to inquries on this topic, to provide the data from the memebership page? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not have access (to the best of my knowledge) to our membership lists. May want to reping . That said, we're currently in the process of trying to reconceptualize the idea of membership in WMNYC, as well as plans to better track/communicate with people to volunteer and/or come to events. That's down the road (later this year maybe?). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 15:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, that sounds terrific. if that is the case, then may I please help out, or join any group you may be developing for volunteers?As I said I would be interested in joing the local NYC chapter, so if that proces is still being developed, I'd be interested in helping out, if possible.  so if there is some way for me to get on board, maybe as a volunteer, or maybe to help with technical tasks or items, etc I would be really interested to help out a bit, based on whatever you think might be truly helpful. so feel free to let me know, any time you might wish. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * At this point, for the most part, there's not a good structure to say "hey, you want to volunteer -- that's great! -- here's a list of ways you can do that." I hope we can get there, but it's not there now. That said, there's one area which comes to mind where the general interest of the chapter exceeds our knowledge: Wikidata. Don't know if you're already involved with Wikidata or if that interests you at all, but that's something that comes to mind. :) &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 16:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting! but no, I'm truly not experienced or even very familiar with Wikidata. I appreciate your helpful note on that, though. I think that right now, the best approach might be simply that I will make myself generally available as things move forward, here and there. If I think of anything I might like to offer, work on, etc, I may drop by to let you know, or to get your ideas, or your feedback in general, etc. it's good to have your replies on this. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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Misunderstanding on "Fasting from Whiteness" edit on TPUSA
Hello Rhondodendrites, You recently undid an edit that I corrected after the user:BlackKite reverted on the grounds that there was no mention of TPUSA in the sole cited article. I added another article by a different author back in. You undid the edit again with the edit summary": "this isn't TPUSA receiving criticism, it's fox news amplifying TPUSA outrage, and WP:WEIGHT isn't established by fox news alone here" The actual edit reads like this: "In 2022, TPUSA received media attention after criticizing a Chicago-area church (First United Church of Oak Park) in a piece published covering the churches promotion for what they dubbed "Fasting from Whiteness". This is a practice in which the church would not be performing any songs of worship composed by "white people". Turning Point USA's coverage sparked outrage and the church released a press release on their website further explaining their actions along with claims they received "hateful messages" once the information about "Fasting from Whiteness" spread." -I think you may have read it wrong. I didn't accuse Turning Point USA for receiving criticism anywhere in that body of text, as you mentioned in your edit summary, I said that Turning Point USA "recieved" media attention after they themselves critisized First United Church of Oak Park. Can you please revert back as this event was quite notable, and received quite a bit of local and international media attention. I linked an additional reliable green source article according to WP:RSP, just so you can see that Fox news alone isn't the only site establishing WP:WEIGHT.
 * 1) [| Religion News Service RNS] << on RSP as reliable
 * 2) [| NY POST article] << corroborating article mentioning TPUSA
 * 3) [| DailyWire article] << another corroborating article mentioning TPUSA. Eruditess (talk) 22:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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What camera do you recommend for someone who is starting to take an interest in photography? Your photos of birds are rather high-quality and I'm thinking about finding a second hobby. — Mhawk10 (talk) 02:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That's great! I got started uploading my cell phone pics to Commons. I'm not up on all of the features/specs built into phone cameras these days, so can't really advise on that, but even if the megapixel count is going through the roof, phone cameras are limited by a tiny lens that just can't let as much light through as something physically bigger. It was a desire to contribute better images for Wikipedia that led me to buy a camera. If that's where you are, there are a few considerations: budget is the big one, of course, but also what kind of things you'd want to take pictures of? Wildlife, buildings, sports, landscapes, portraits, etc. I just went through these decisions when Wikimedia New York City was deciding on a camera to buy for our members to use. We settled on a nice Panasonic point-and-shoot (as opposed to an interchangeable lens format). For most things, it works great, but if you want a really wide angle for a giant building or a really long zoom for a distant bird, it doesn't have as much flexibility. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 13:56, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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hi there! would it be possible to please schedule another group call? it could be the whole chapter if you want. or alternately, just the NYC Meetup board. or alternately, you, me, plus any other people you might wish. nothing major, but a few substantive updates, on a few different things. I hope that's ok? feel free to let me know. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello. By another group call, what do you mean? Another WikiWednesday? If there's something on your mind that may be of interest to others in the chapter, you're always welcome to post to the WMNYC talk page to see if there's interest, or post to Discord, etc. Sorry if I'm misinterpreting what you mean. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 02:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, that's helpful. actually, I meant an internal call, with members of the chapter organizing body or committee for NYC Meetup, if possible. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Main_Page
Seriously? You seriously need to bring this up in a discussion that's already splintering in a million directions? I get you have a personal bugbear against En-wiki FPC. This was not the time to bring it up. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 19:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * What is the time to bring it up, if not when people are talking (implicitly or otherwise) about the selection of POTD and the relationship of that process to FPC? If I raise it when there's no active issue, nobody will care.
 * That said, I get that the current thread(s) involve a lot of stuff being thrown in your direction. While I don't agree with you that it's inappropriate to bring up, in an effort not to exacerbate what I'm sure is a stressful thread, I'll replace it with a pointer here if anyone wants to follow up. Fair? &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 20:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm. could've sworn the reply link automatically generated a ping. Oh well. Here it is: &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk \\ 20:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You suggested we throw out the whole process literally immediately after I had spent two weeks or so setting up the next six months of POTD. Back when POTD had less than a week of images queued up? Great time. After someone had just spent literal hundreds of hours making a massive backlog? Really terrible time Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 20:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * First, I think it's great you've set up a POTD buffer. Thanks for that. In no scenario would I support getting rid of that. Even if, against the odds, enough people agree that we should start using Commons FPs, that's no reason to delist current enwp FPs, and it's no reason to toss out the current POTD queue. The ideal would be to keep everything we have and just stop promoting new ones. Mark enwp FPC as historical, keep the current FPs as-is, and just start allowing Commons FPs. IMO. But we can talk about it another time, too. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 20:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

FPC
(Moved from Talk:Main page &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 20:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC))

Periodic reminder that one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) we maintain a parallel FPC process, rather than phase it out when Commons centralized it, is to select images for our POTD. Participation has been a bit better over the last year than in the past several (kudos to participants for that, indeed -- and apologies for otherwise being a naysayer in the face of some improvement), but it still almost never promotes at the rate of 1/day. The awkward rules about use of images in articles (is it used? is it still used? where on the page is it used? is it discussed in the text? is the article otherwise decent quality?) plus slim participation means idiosyncratic opinions get more weight than they do on Commons. The Commons process gets far more people participating and promotes about 3/day vs. <1/day, and includes much of what gets promote here (as well as a bunch of stuff that isn't used in articles, granted, but a lot that could be but isn't yet). Instead of going through a separate FPC process where a few people select what should be in the pool of POTDs, then having a separate process to choose POTDs, and then having a discussion when the broader community sees what the FPC community promoted, we could take advantage of the process that already gets more participation and provides more options, and can just focus on a process which selects POTDs from those. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 19:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with marking enwiki FPC historical and just having one FP process at Commons. Enwiki could then still have a POTD process, which chooses from among Commons FPs. I also agree that we should take a look at POTD guidelines (e.g., used in an article, as you mentioned) to see if they're still helpful. <span id="Levivich:1655066504464:User_talkFTTCLNRhododendrites" class="FTTCmt">Levivich 20:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The only exception(s) I can think of is/are any image that is considered free on Wikipedia but cannot be on Commons (such as anything with PD-US-expired-abroad). WP:FPCR only says that it must be freely-licensed and thus not fair use. -B RAINULATOR 9 (TALK) 17:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm always on board with merging redundant processes. This seems like a prime candidate. Best, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I opposed killing off en-FPC the last time I saw it come around, but I'm shifting towards the point of view that it's not a useful process. It's supposed to have different standards from commons, focusing more on being informative than on being pretty and unblemished, but in practice that's not what most of the regular participants care most about, so it ends up just being a smaller-participation copy of commons. What's the point of that? —David Eppstein (talk) 04:02, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * From my experience, informative images that aren't sufficiently "pretty" really do do badly on Commons. Just looking at things I've had promoted recently, these four passed here easily, but not on Commons:


 * Comparing the discussions here and there could well be informative. Since you tend to get more of what you encourage, I could certainly see a switch to Commons eliminating large categories of images from getting brought to Wikipedia at all. Also, there's a LOT of things that pass Commons with basically no use cases. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 21:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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event today in Bronx
Hi. It was great to see you yesterday at the zoom call. Thanks for all your ideas!

Look at this. Here is a wikipedia meetup event, which will be today in the Bronx!! I will post the text below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikicari/status/1539369817647755264

Thurs, June 23, 1-4PM join us and WikiCari in #OldSanJuan and the Bronx as Wikimedia expert hosts a Wikipedia meetup/photo walk focused on #PuertoRico. Both events are at @ChocobarCortes locations in PR and NYC. More info at link below. Sm8900 (talk) 09:24, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Here is the link for the actual events. Thanks.

https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/San_Juan/2022-06-23 Sm8900 (talk) 09:28, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I won't be able to attend, but it sounds like a great event. I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this before now, but that's likely because it's primarily organized in Puerto Rico. Not sure who's organizing locally. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 13:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Interesting group item
I just found this interesting item in your talk page archives: Discussion on Growth team "add an image" idea, which also led me to this interesting team and project. Growth. I may add this to the navbox that I showed you. thanks!! Sm8900 (talk) 14:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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