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Speedy deletion nomination of EasyGraph


A tag has been placed on EasyGraph, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of EasyGraph and leave a note on |the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Woogee (talk) 01:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of EasyGraph
An article that you have been involved in editing, EasyGraph, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Woogee (talk) 00:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Spam
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Woogee (talk) 01:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok I understand, I jut removed the direct link (Wasn't aware of the rules) Rhodydog (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

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WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is never a valid argument. Discuss this article only. You have yet to provide reliable sources as to what makes the software notable. It's being listed for deletion. If, once the deletion discussion has completed and the decision is not to delete the article, then, and only then, should you add it back to the appropriate articles. Woogee (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

The main complaint seems to hinge on whether EasyGraph is notable or not and whether reliable sources confirming this exist. As far as I know EasyGraph is the ONLY graphing application (listed at Wikipedia and beyond) that can propagate errors into the error bars and via arbitrary transformation functions. If it also unique in the way errors are entered into the data grid. It is true that other error propagation calculators exist (some are listed on Wikipedia) but none can do it graphically. I will assume you are an engineer and therefore understand the importance of error propagation in making certainty statements on derived quantities from experimental measurements and therefore recognized this notable feature. If you do know that one or more of the listed graphing tools can carry out error propagation (and your complaint suggests you do) then I will be pleased to know and will gracefully accept deletion of the item and will direct my students towards the tool you recommend. It you cannot, then EasyGraph is truly notable and I do not therefore see why it should be deleted and if it is I will consider it an act of vandalism. As for a reliable source, what constitutes such a source? Would a statement from a Professor of Engineering at a well known US University qualify? Rhodydog (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Reliable Sources require third party sources.  Are there reviews from reputable magazines or websites?  And you don't get to decide that deletion is vandalism if consensus at the deletion discussion goes against you.  Note that I am not an admin, so I won't be doing the deleting.  Deletion will get done at the end of the seven days of discussin on the AfD discussion page.  Woogee (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

This is the final warning you are receiving regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you insert a spam link, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. Woogee (talk) 17:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

There is no need to use threats (Especially since the offending link was removed sometime before you commented). *But* having read the notability in software essays Notability (software) and Software notability I see now that EasyGraph is not yet sufficiently 'notable' to warrant inclusion in the list (I still believe it is technically unique but not 'notable'). I've removed all content from the EasyGraph page but left the deletion notice. I think there are a fair number of titles in the list that fall into the same category and probably should be nominated for deletion. What do you think? Rhodydog (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Image
My apologies. I had thought that this was an attempt to put a screenshot of copyrighted software as public domain. Thanks for clarifying.  bibliomaniac 1  5  21:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Old Image
Old image located at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EasyGraphExample.jpg

Enzyme Kinetics for Systems Biology
Are you the author of "Enzyme Kinetics for Systems Biology"? Carstensen (talk) 13:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
§everal⇒|Times 17:34, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

File:EasyGraphExample.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:EasyGraphExample.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 19:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of TMSChart


The article TMSChart has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
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I do not recall what TMSChart is, in fact I don't remember anything about it, so you are free to delete it.Rhodydog (talk) 00:43, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of David Fell (Academic)


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Speedy deletion nomination of David Fell (Academic)


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Proposed deletion of Edda Klipp


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Speedy deletion nomination of Edda Klipp


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Speedy deletion nomination of Athel Cornish-Bowden


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David Fell (Academic) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, David Fell (Academic), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Brad v  05:15, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I can do that, how many references would suffice? I believe he has over 190 publications with a h-index of 49, I could pick the top 10, would that be enough? My intention is to slowly build this page up. Rhodydog (talk) 05:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No! We want three or four references to independent sources which attest to his notability. By all means list ten publications as well. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:35, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Do you mean references that cite his work? Rhodydog (talk) 15:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jannie Hofmeyr
Hello Rhodydog,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Jannie Hofmeyr for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Centre Left Right ✉ 05:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
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I can assure you that my efforts are entirely voluntary, I am not paid to do this. I'm not sure how I can prove this to you however. Rhodydog (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:David Fell (professor) has a new comment
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Your submission at Articles for creation: David Fell (professor) has been accepted
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Your draft article, Draft:Athel Cornish-Bowden


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Your draft article, Draft:Edda Klipp


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Your draft article, Draft:Jannie Hofmeyr


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Your submission at Articles for creation: Athel Cornish-Bowden (August 4)
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AfC notification: Draft:Athel Cornish-Bowden has a new comment
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AfC notification: Draft:Athel Cornish-Bowden has a new comment
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Athel Cornish-Bowden has been accepted
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Copying licensed material requires attribution
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 * Thanks for the feedback. You're right I just found the text in the preprint version of the paper, I hadn't noticed that. Out of interest, that text, in turn, was taken from some of my own lecture notes, which is where I actually got the text for the Wikipedia page. I would never have spotted that. (talk) 18:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of systems biology modelling software


The article List of systems biology modelling software has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:NLIST, lacks any reliable independent sources."

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 * Dan, could you hold off on a deletion until I've added secondary sources. I should be able to that in the next 24 hours. Alternatively if you have the power to move the page to draft mode, then I would do that, and I can work on it from there? Rhodydog (talk) 02:47, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dan, I have added quite a few secondary sources to each software tool in the main list and primary sources to the legacy list. Is this sufficient for you? I can add secondary sources to the legacy list if need be. Rhodydog (talk) 03:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I have removed the PROD notice but it still lacks a lead or description of what the article is actually about. Dan arndt (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for removing the deletion notice. There is a short lead on the page which I added last night but I can expand that. Rhodydog (talk) 16:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I moved the existing lead page to the top of the page and expanded it. Rhodydog (talk) 18:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

The new page SBCSL was meant to go via draft and review
I meant to publish SBCSL via a draft and review, but I just realized I created the document live. Apologies for that. If an admin wants to push it to draft mode so that it can be properly reviewed and critiqued, that is ok with me. 19:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: IBioSim (January 10)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: PySB (January 20)
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Akevsharma (talk) 03:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The article wasn't an advertisement, I'm not the author of the software, I was just trying to build a compendium of well known software in systems biology. Its ok to delete, I'm not going to argue with your decision. Rhodydog (talk) 03:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: PySCeS (January 23)
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Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I have removed all the text from the capabilities section and refer readers to consult the primary and secondary sources listed at the end of the page. Rhodydog (talk) 17:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: PySCeS (January 23)
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AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Academic software tends not to have news sources, instead academics rely on peer reviewed articles to gauge the importance of a given result which in turn is often the number of citations a paper receives. For example, the main publication for PySCeS has received 231 citations. For an academic publication that is a very high citation rate. Whether this makes the software notable is a question for Wikipedia editors. If they feel this is not notable and must require articles from the mainstream news then I suggest deleting this page because there aren't any such articles. I am not the author of the software and have no relationship with the software or use the software. Rhodydog (talk) 17:58, 23 January 2023 (UTC)