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Can you provide any direct sources for Nurgamedodov (or however it's spelled) joining the UFC. I can only find a Sherdog forum post, which isn't quite good enough. Can you provide a link for his signing, until there is one I'd prefer not to post it in this list as it is too tenuous. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 17:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If your information comes from the Sherdog forum post, the person posting the information says the link he provided, which would be good enough even though it's in russian, only says he's made a verbal agreement and is waiting to get a passport. I would assume that if he is unable to secure a passport he would probably not be able to sign a contract. This has been a problem with other fighters in the past, so until his actual signing is announced it would be premature to put him on this list. A similar situation occurred with Darren Uyenoyama, who's Shooto contract prevented him from signing with the UFC for several months. I expect a more formal announcement will be coming shortly to announce his singing, but until then this is too unsure to be included in this article. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 17:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It is the noted policy of this page to list all fighters with their UFC broadcast flag. While I realize that this is not fully indicative of these fighters nationalities, it provides an easy, referenceable, and consistent method of determining what flag a fighter should be displayed with. While Dennis Siver is often talked about as being from germany/german, he is always listed with a Russian flag in his Tale of the Tape, prefight bio. As I said I realize that this is not necessarily indicative of nationality. And although it says "Born" next to the flags, it is not always indicative of where they were born. But it is consistent, and it is noted at the top of each table that this is the system being used. I hope this clears up any questions of flag use or nationalities on this page. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 14:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

List of current MMA champions
I have encountered this a couple of times now, and feel I should just have a default speech in hand. All I know of Guram Gugenishvili is that he was born in Georgia, which to my mind makes him Georgian. I would be happy to change this to Ukrainian, but in order to do that I need extra information from you. I need an explanation in the talk section of why you are making the change and supporting evidence if possible. I can be swayed if he has officially renounced his Georgian citizenship in order to become Ukrainian, but I need to know that that's what's going on, not just that his family is Ukrainian or something like that. Until then I will revert his nationality to Georgian. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 14:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * M-1 Global is centered in the Netherlands. That is where they list their principal business offices and such. I realize that they hold the majority of their contests in Russia, and feature many Russian fighters, but that in and of itself does not make them a Russian organization. If you have an argument as to why it should or why they are actually a Russian company I would be happy to consider it and argue on it's behalf depending on merit and evidence. Thanks for your help. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 20:43, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I can live with your solution.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 16:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Is Magalhaes vacating official. I know he's written released an angry statement, and I'm sure it's likely, but I don't see anything beyond a forum post or two to suggest that he as actually officially vacated his belt or signed exclusively (which amounts to the same thing). Thaddeus Venture (talk) 18:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hello, you may want to read or join the discussion at WT:MMA regarding flag icons. The MMA WikiProject is currently attempting to standardize record tables, but flags are not included. — LOL T/C 21:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Oleinik and BJJ
Alexey Oleinik never trained Bjj in the whole his life, read this: http://www.mixfight.ru/mma/interviews/2009/11/9/oleinik/ and this: http://forum.mixfight.ru/showthread.php?p=307508#post307508 And stop vandaling his article already. He is a complete International Master of Sports in Combat Sambo, not a "2d razriad Master": he won two HW 1st places, the first one in 2005, second one in 2010 under the World Combat Sambo Federation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.232.152.118 (talk) 20:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

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Rasul Mirzaev
Hello there. Mirzaev ain't no BJJ player. You might want to undo this edit. Also not sure why you changed combat sambo to sambo. Nice work on the MMA table though. --Fayerman (talk) 16:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Azamat Gashimov
I changed back your edits because Sherdog.com says Azamat is from the Ukraine, im serious heres the link!:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Azamat-Gashimov-71175

Also I didnt count 304 fighters when I added both the number of fighters, and double checked by adding the number of flags with a calculator, both numbers came out to 303. So yea changed that back too. Glock17gen4 (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry I had to revert your edits, I couldnt find a reliable source that Sergei Kharitonov has actually signed with the UFC. Glock17gen4 (talk) 12:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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I see that in 2012, there were issues with you copying content from sources and other Wikipedia articles, as listed at ANI, and a contributor copyright investigation was requested (archive). It was declined, by User:MER-C, only because the user who noticed the issue had already cleaned the problems at the time.

Unfortunately, it looks like there are still issues with copyright here, and I need to be sure that you understand our policies on handling content from external sources.
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I have looked through your contribution history after that last copyright request and have identified the major edits that concern me. Can you please identify where this text comes from so that we can determine how best to handle it?
 * (I suspect you have copied it from ru:Гадисов, Абдусалам Маматханович, but would like to verify.)
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If we can't identify where this text came from and ensure that it is properly handled per our copyright policies (for example, identified if it is a translation of the Russian Wikipedia), the content will probably have to be removed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:34, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ricco Baroni
Unblocked please! Moonriddengirl


 * Hello. I received your email indicating that you have read our copyright policies and understand them now. Can you please answer the questions above about where the text in those diffs comes from? Were they translated from something directly? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * (To make sure I'm clear, I am asking you to answer the questions about the diffs I linked in the additional copyright issues section, above. We need to fix the copyright problems already created first. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:12, 28 March 2015 (UTC))
 * For what it's worth, you can still edit your talk page here, if you log in. Can you please log in and identify where the text comes from in these diffs so that we can determine how best to handle it?


 * (I suspect you have copied it from ru:Гадисов, Абдусалам Маматханович, but would like to verify.)
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 * --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * As I mention on my user page, I don't talk about Wikipedia matters via email unless there are serious privacy concerns. Conversations on Wikipedia are meant to be transparent (that is, on the record), and I'm a lot more comfortable with that approach. :) Can you try logging in to your account and writing here? You were able to do this a few hours ago, . If you cannot, please tell me what message you see when you try. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I copied something from the site, but many add yourself! --Ricco Baroni
 * I copied from www.wrestdag.ru about 40-50% information about sportsmen, but the rest of the information I know about myself these sportsmen --Ricco Baroni

Thank you for your response. So, for example, when I look at this diff, I see a lot of information, including a quote. Can you link to me where you got that quote? Can you link me any of the pages on www.wrestdag.ru where you copied information? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For example Abdulsalam Gadisov (http://wrestdag.ru/users/201/) it is this is an article written about his sporting career, I took the information about it here! --Ricco Baroni
 * Abdulsalam Gadisov vs. Khadzhimurat Gatsalov in final match Ali Alyiev cup 2013 --Ricco Baroni
 * if it violates the copyright, I can remove all information about these sportsmen --Ricco Baroni
 * Thanks; I don't know if it violates copyright or not. I'm trying to work that out. I know you had a problem with the article I talked about earlier, where you translated from your source directly. But here you have several quotes in the article - for instance, "As a child I liked mixed martial arts - says Abdusalam Gadis - and at first I visited the section of Wushu Sanda and kickboxing, but my father chose me to do freestyle wrestling, and took me to a sports school". That isn't in the first link you gave me - at http://wrestdag.ru/users/201/. It doesn't seem to be in the video, although since I don't speak Russian I'm not sure. It looks like a regular video of a match with a guy talking about the match. Where did you get that quote?  Is it somewhere in that video? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:43, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "about about @liked mixed martial arts - says Abdusalam Gadi" I took it from here! --Ricco Baroni
 * I am familiar with adimnistratom site "www.wrestgad.ru" and they consistency that I enjoyed their article about the many sportsmen in their articles of sportsmen! ;) --Ricco Baroni
 * We can communicate faster if you add me in facebook (www.facebook.com/Radikishandsome) --Ricco Baroni


 * Oh, thank you! I see. So, yes, that would be a copyright problem for the same reason as the other article. The basic facts about his career - what matches he fought and when - we can use. But their prose sections we can't. We have to create our own prose. :) So I get a Google translation from that site, I see much of the same content. So, that we will need to remove. Maybe we should remove the text from the other articles as well, as you say, so you can rebuild it "from scratch."


 * I will work on unblocking you, but it may take a few extra minutes and could perhaps need more information from you. The fact that you couldn't edit your talk page means you were almost certainly logged out when you tried, which means your IP is probably autoblocked. But we'll get it worked out. I'll update you.


 * What's really important now is that going forward you stick to putting facts into articles in your own words, not translating from other websites. It's better to do small changes that are in our copyright policy than to risk it.


 * I wouldn't talk about this on Facebook, either. :) The English Wikipedia really likes to keep conversation on talk pages. It's a little slower, but it's "on the record." --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:58, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, please test. Try to edit any page other than this one. If you cannot, please this time email me what message you are receiving. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I Now I remove everything associated with the site wrestdag, thank you that you have enabled me! :) --Ricco Baroni


 * Oh, good! You can edit. If you have any questions about copyright, please come to my talk page. You can leave messages for me here as well, but I would ask you to put  somewhere in your note to increase the chance that I will see it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok  --Ricco Baroni (talk) 02:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * I know he is not a Chechen! I talk to him, he is Dargin, Magomedov surname is not chechen! in website not true! Ricco Baroni  (hm?) 15:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * What matters on WP is verifiability. As far as I'm concerned, it's your word vs. that of a trained historian. I'm going to revert the page, again. Never mind, I see you've actually added some sources now. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 10:45, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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