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January 2024
Hello, I'm ThaddeusSholto. An edit that you recently made to Quantum seemed to be a test and has been reverted. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! ThaddeusSholto (talk) 13:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you Rich1222 (talk) 13:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Haplogroup J-M172, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Your addition to this article was irrelevant, and furthermore, a copyright violation. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Why do you delete Nature's information?!!! Rich1222 (talk) 15:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Because you added a discussion of the source of the Indo-European languages group to an article about genetics, where it has no relevance. Also, because you committed a copyright violation by duplicating the source material verbatim. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How can I respect the copyright? Rich1222 (talk) 15:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Indo-European languages ​​are related to the genetic origin of Indo-Europeans. Rich1222 (talk) 15:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You can respect the copyright by introducing the concept in your own words, with a citation to the original source. However, I would strongly urge you to discuss your proposed edits at Talk:Haplogroup J-M172. There is no other discussion of linguistics on this page, so the introduction of that topic is likely to be non-controversial. While the spread of genetic material that follows populations is similar to the spread of language that follows populations, the two concepts are not identical. A much more nuanced discussion is needed than just the out-of-context information you added. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The Nature article is about "genetic and language" indo European, at least we can mention the genetic origin of Indo-Europeans in the South Caucasus. 2A01:5EC0:2003:3651:ACDD:E935:96A1:2D99 (talk) 16:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This is me The site has a bug Rich1222 (talk) 16:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The source article is under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. As such, the material is license compatible with Wikipedia, but you must provide attribution.  Template:CCBYSASource can be used in this case. I have not restored the material because it's not clear that it belongs there from an editorial standpoint.  But that can be discussed on the article's talk page. -- Whpq (talk) 16:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The Nature article ("The time and place of origin of South Caucasian languages: insights into past human societies, ecosystems and human population genetics") uses genetic history to attempt to understand linguistic history. The Haplogroup J-M172 article investigates the genetic history alone, without reference to linguistic history. You would make a better argument for adding the haplogroup information to an article on the linguistic phylogenetics of the Indo-European language group, but still, I'd suggest a discussion at a relevant article talk page before attempting to add the information. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Haplogroup J-M172
Is it your intention to continue to add random unrelated facts to this article without discussion? Please don't. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Logically, you should also edit the r1a page! Rich1222 (talk) 22:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Haplogroup j2 is related to the origin of Indo-Europeans Rich1222 (talk) 22:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Why are you lying about r1a? Rich1222 (talk) 22:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Presumably you're talking about Haplogroup R1a. What's the lie? Also, related to Haplogroup J-M172, if you are willing to provide sources that trace this genetic group through linguistic evidence, that might be useful. But providing linguisting information without any tie-in to the genetic information is irrelevant. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)