User talk:RichardMills65/Archive 1

First off, let me be clear — the page was deleted because it was very short and didn't give any context: nobody except you could know what it was. Because you've added enough information to make it obvious what the SIG 522LR is, I've un-deleted the edit in question; you can see it here. Please be careful in the future — articles with no content except for section headers, like the one in question, are eligible for immediate deletion. If you don't want to do all the work at once and write the article in a single edit, there are two good ways to do it: write it in a subpage in your userspace (you could call it User:RichardMills65/Sandbox, or you could call it whatever else you want), or write it on your computer and put it online when you're satisfield. If you write an article in your userspace, it won't get deleted quickly for lack of context or content.

I'm confused by your words: what do you mean by a template? Were you originally trying to create this page in the template namespace? Pages in the template namespace aren't articles; instead, they're chunks of text that can be displayed on other pages without having to type everything that you're writing; for example, by typing, I get a message of  instead of a few letters. I'm not trying to deflect your question; I simply don't understand what you meant. Nyttend (talk) 05:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I just noticed your "please refrain from editing" comment at the article's talk page. This is a good idea, but people often don't look at the talk page when they're about to make an edit.  You can make the same comment on the article itself: just type In use at the top of the article, and you'll get a big banner that politely asks people not to make any edits while you're working on the article.  It's impossible to miss.  Nyttend (talk) 05:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * In the edit summary for the first edit to the page, you said "create template". That's why I was confused.  If you want to make sure that the section headings are working, you can put them into the userspace subpage, or you could put them into the page itself and simply click "Preview" instead of "Save"; this will show you how the page would look if saved, but it doesn't create anything that can be deleted immediately.  And by the way, I saw how you had to change the coding for the in use template on my talk page — that's what it will look like on the article.  If you want to link to a template, the easiest way is to type the template with the curly braces, then the letters "tl" and the | character before the name of the template.  For example, typing in use has the effect of displaying in use with a link to the template without making the whole template show up here, where it doesn't belong.  Nyttend (talk) 05:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nyttend, I think that by "template" RichardMills65 meant that he was creating a kind of skeleton or rough outline for his article, in the form of section names. My guess is that our new editor friend didn't realize that "template" has a specific geeky meaning here.  No harm done, RichardMills65.  You will learn fast, I am sure.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia
Hello, and welcome,

I saw your article SIG 522LR and see that it has come along nicely. I want to echo Nyttend's recommendation to start your articles in a sandbox, and work there at least until the article has context and is clearly something worth saving. I also add several references to reliable sources so that readers can verify the accuracy of the claims in the article. Only then do I move my new articles to the main Wikipedia space.

I am not a firearms expert, so I can only guess that detailed reviews in reputable firearms magazines or reference books might be the best place to start in finding references. Independent sources are preferred, as opposed to manufacturer's websites or catalogs, though such sources can be used sparingly. I hope that you will stick around and write more articles. If I can offer any assistance in the ways of the Wikipedia world, please don't hesitate to visit my talk page and ask any question at all. Take care.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * According to Wikipedia policy, we need some independent sources, such as reviews in reliable firearms magazines. In general, blogs and user-submitted website content are not considered reliable sources on Wikipedia, with the exception of blogs by professional journalists and recognized experts.  The article should be written in your own words, and copying and pasting from any source (with very narrow exceptions) is considered a copyright violation and strictly forbidden on Wikipedia. Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Any unreferenced article is at risk of deletion. I would recommend at least one independent reference ASAP.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  06:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I added one reference for you, and will keep my eye on the article. Keep up the good work.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  06:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012
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If you look at the article as written, the part i took out was contained in this bag of garbage trying to pass itself off as english: "Farley attended Columbia High School, in East Greenbush, New York.[9] she had a bussiness befor the show has owned her own home since 18 years old. she is a very smart young beautiful lady."

I removed the "bussiness" for spelling. "befor" and the opinion that she is very smart. Clearly that is an OPINION.--RichardMills65 (talk) 11:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I reverted the wrong edit. Good work, keep it up! -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 11:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for the strong language then. I thought I was being instructed to not correct things by someone lacking the ability to discern the difference between crap (who makes a Jwoww page anyway) and fact (clearly you can). Glad you said something, I was concerned! Carry on!

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Spelling
Hi Richard. Great to see you helping to correct spelling mistakes. However, you should be aware of Manual of Style. "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the English of that nation." This includes differences in spelling between US English and other varieties of English (i.e. US "center" Brit. "centre", US "organization" Brit. "organisation" etc.) A comprehensive list of differences can be found at American and British English spelling differences, Note that Australian and New Zealand articles largely follow British English spelling too. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 05:34, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, please be careful about "correcting" the spelling of article titles in links, as doing so may break the links. For example, it's spelled Astrogeology Research Program, not Astro-geology Research Program.   Will Beback    talk    05:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Typo corrections
Hey, welcome! I really appreciate having my frequent typos corrected (thanks !!!), but you should know that many editors don't appreciate it and might get offended. Technically, you should never edit another editor's post-- but you can correct my typos anytime! Sandy Georgia (Talk) 03:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Re: Spelling mistakes


 * Sandy -
 * Appreciate the heads up. As an educator, I feel it is my duty to correct these common errors wherever they pop up. While I certainly don't mean to offend anyone, posting on Wikipedia isn't exactly like having a casual conversation with your friends.  Millions of people may view what you write.  I want to make sure that these common errors are corrected before they further propagate themselves !


 * If anyone does get offended, they are welcome to tell me, but I will not stop in my relentless quest for correctness of the English language!


 * --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:46, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I prefer to keep conversations together, and when I post to your talk, I watchlist it, so you don't have to split the conversation by posting to mine. Considering the number of typos I make, I guess this means you'll be seeing a lot of me :)  But seriously, you should know that editing another editor's talk page post is something that could get you blocked.  I don't mind, but others may, so take care there.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Whoops! I did NOT mean to edit a Talk page. Consider this my apology! I have my Lupin Spellchecker set to "ignore talk pages" but from time to time it does pop up a talk page. --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

The Almighty Johnsons
You made an edit: this, comment "Correcting spelling: godesses->goddesses". However that spelling was used in the article cited. Also in the link. So I have reverted it. Please do not change direct quotes, whether they're correct or not. And be very careful if you change a link. Barsoomian (talk) 09:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
thanks for your help with Charles Eisenmann article

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Thanks!
For correcting the spelling in the Sean Sherlock article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.61.61.99 (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Antarctica (The Guardian episode)
I've added a reference to IMDB for this article. But the plot does not have a source because I just the episode here, in the Netherlands, on the Dutch NET 5 channel about three houres ago. What do I have to do? Teysz Kamieński (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)


 * See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_episode should help you out --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:50, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this good? Teysz Kamieński (talk) 04:04, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks good, you should probably add some other sources if you can find them. --RichardMills65 (talk) 04:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added some sources which contain a summary of the plot of the episode, maybe that helps. Teysz Kamieński (talk) 04:32, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Rashad Shawa Cultural Center
How is this article? Honestly, thats the only 2 sources I could find. Question, I added some more info, but now I need categories, is there any Palestinian-related ones?--Mishae (talk) 02:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's actually pretty short. I would consider adding additional information if you can find any. --RichardMills65 (talk) 04:15, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Wally Eddinger
thank you for the kind words Rich. Koplimek (talk) 22:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Harriet Elizabeth Byrd Article
Thank you for your comments regarding the article I recently created on Wyoming politician Harriet Elizabeth Byrd. I am unfortunately not well-versed in the creation of in-line citations, and any assistance I can get in updating the article would be most appreciated. --TommyBoy (talk) 03:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

When you are editing, there is a tool bar above the text area. If you click "Cite" it will drop down templates. click on the Templates drop down box when your cursor is where you want to place the in-line citation. fill out the info and click 'insert'. at the bottom, put this below (click edit -> to see the code)
 * Thanks for the tip, I have added in-line citations to the article to the best of my ability. Please feel free to check my work. --TommyBoy (talk) 05:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There you go. Now just remember to remind other people to do the same ! --RichardMills65 (talk) 05:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
B Positive  (talk)   07:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Reg your notice
Dear RichardMills65|RichardMills65 thanks for the notice on the Malik Barkat Ali page/article. I have already commented in this regard on the article's Talk page and shall be doing the needful in due course, as its an ongoing work, and I am adding text at first. As a new/occasional editor, Im still not entirely conversant with full Wiki standards and am learnign as I go. Thanks again, 39.54.66.24 (talk) 06:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
 * If you plan on doing major revisions, in a short period of time, you should ad an "underconstruction" banner to the top of the page so that other editors know that you don't plan to leave it as it is. Any other questions, feel free to post here. Thanks --RichardMills65 (talk) 22:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Splitting The Lion King 2 section
Hi, do you agree that we should split the music section of The Lion King 2 into separtate article, just as the first film and its souldtrack?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 18:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems like it would reduce the clutter; but I would also be concerned about duplicating information if it was split. It's a close decision, but I do lean to splitting it. --RichardMills65 (talk) 22:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Piano
Re your message: No problem. The editor was headed for a block. I had the block window loaded and ready to go when you ran into him. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * two big CHiPS thumbs up :) --RichardMills65 (talk) 05:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Latter Rain Movement
So you 1.) undo a blanking of a page, then 2.) nominate it for deletion as "no content" EVEN THOUGH YOU PUT THE CONTENT BACK. Explain that one. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:31, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: comments above:
Well, it's not for a random IP to censor that page by blanking it. If an admin wants to take a look at it and make an informed decision, that's great. There were no comments on WHY the page was blanked. How about you get off your attitude and assume a little good faith? sheesh... --RichardMills65 (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not what Articles for Deletion is for. It's articles for deletion, not discussion. There's no reason to delete here. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * so do you want me to remove the deletion template for you?


 * Hey, I saw that you were new and in the spirit of "don't bite the newbie", I thought I'd explain a little more about disambiguation pages. Normally in 99.9% of the articles in AfD, there wouldn't be any problem with your argument for deletion. The only thing is that disambiguation pages are pages where we collect different links to pages that share the same name or a similar one. This particular page isn't as full as say, the disambiguation page for Rambo, but it still fills an important need since there's multiple different things that the name "Latter Rain Movement" could stand for. When people look for something that could have similar names, these types of pages can help them find the page they're looking for that much easier. If they wanted the film, they could look on the disambiguation page for the movie series or if they wanted to find information about the Rambo apple (which sounds like the most kick butt apple ever), this page would help them find their desired page that much faster- especially since many page names are named so distinctly that it's hard to find it by just using the search bar. In any case, this is a pretty easy mistake to make, so don't worry too much about it. I can't tell you how many times I've nominated something, only for someone to later say "but this falls under this, so it totally fits under Wikipedia rules". I've gotten egg on my face more than once, that's for sure. Sometimes disambiguation pages can be deleted if there's only one or two things, but it's pretty rare. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to drop a message on my talk page. I just didn't want you to think that I was being too abrupt on the AfD. I have a tendency to be really talky on AfDs or really brief, so I wanted to make sure that you know that I was being harsh. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL, like I said, I'm either brief or insanely verbose! No prob. :) Tokyogirl79 (talk) 03:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Passmark Software


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What a joke. THE ARTICLE WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. READ BEFORE YOU SPEEDYDELETE.--RichardMills65 (talk) 01:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Could use your advice
Hi Richard, last week you remarked about a page I had written, Go Technologies, and I appreciate you taking the time to look at it. I could always use an even hand. The reason I'm writing, it seem that a possibly disgruntled ex employees joined Wikipedia specifically to markup this page.

I'm going to revise this markup, but I'm afraid that I'm going to get involved in a war here. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance, DanielDaniel Reyes (talk) 04:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Dan - have a look at your talk page; I made some changes and reviewed the vandalism.

I did not know I could protect a page. Thanks. I'll look into this for future problems. Daniel Reyes (talk) 07:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Richard, I'll never really understand people. Some of this person's edits were good edits. They should learn to play with others. I've started to take another look at the page in question, and I think that I can attribute almost everything on it, but looking at it 4 months after it was written, I can see some editorializing that should go. Currently, I'm writing a kickstarter page for an animation project and my brain is stuck in hyperbole mode. Everything is fantastic! I want to be a little more objective than I've been, but I will go in and clean up the article and references later today. Thanks again, DanielDaniel Reyes (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * A good rule of thumb that I use is that if I can't find 2 sources for it on the internet or in a book, then it's probably not a confirmable fact. Even then, some sources can be suspect. Use your better judgement. We are supposed to give the benefit of the doubt - here on WP we call it assuming good faith.  Try to do your best, I'm sure you'll hear about it if people think it is not neutral enough. --RichardMills65 (talk) 18:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012
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Devon Ke Dev – Mahadev
Looking back at the history, my edit didn't remove them from the table of contents. I changed the headings from level 4 to level 3, because they were after a level 2 heading (headings shouldn't skip levels). User:Himanshu2212 changed all of those headings to bold text instead of headings in this edit. For me, I would use headings, but, with 82 episodes, a better organized table of contents should be used, as using headings would create a very long table of contents. I imagine that's why Himanshu2122 switched them to bold text. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 22:19, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to make an expandable table of contents? I wholeheartedly agree that they would create a contents list that is too long (although the notability and reasoning for having them is also suspect... --RichardMills65 (talk) 22:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There's lists of tables of contents at Template messages/Compact tables of contents and Category:Wikipedia table of contents templates, but there's not really anything in either place that will work. Maybe headings for each month might work. Having briefly looked at the article, you're probably right about not needing a recap of every single episode. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 04:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the user even reads talk page comments. I don't watch the series, nor am I about to start, but it seems we need someone who has to clean it up. Ideas? --RichardMills65 (talk) 04:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

From one copyeditor to another...

 * Thanks! Beer is much better than kittens :) --RichardMills65 (talk) 17:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more, sir. Khazar2 (talk) 18:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Re Begum Zari Sarfaraz
Hello, Im sorry, I owe you an apology, I think that this article already exists under another name and I shall please like to have my stub deleted and/or merged with that one. Thank you AsadUK200 (talk) 04:53, 27 April 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200

Removing AfD template
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 * In my defense, that was my own proposal for deletion that I mistakenly deleted. --RichardMills65 (talk) 23:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Spell correction
Thanks for the spell correction you have successfully broken the dead link that I had just repaired. Please dont do spell correction on URLs regards--  Ð ℬig  XЯaɣ  00:04, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry I disturbed you. Thanks for the sarcasm. --RichardMills65 (talk) 00:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

G12
Howdy. Just letting you know that I've declined your speedy deletion tag on Holealur. Speedy deletion is only for copyvios with nothing worthwhile in the history. In this case, I just made the article into a stub, as it was when it was originally created. Danger High voltage! 02:46, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Also be careful that the "source" is not a mirror of Wikipedia, like in Jagtial. Many sites use our content. Danger High voltage! 02:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * how can you tell if they are mirroring content? It seems like a ton of these indian wiki articles get thrown up (literally) every day. Most of them are trash. Peacocking, grammar, no sources, etc. I have made articles on en.wp that were deleted in 30 minutes and had none of the same violations ( mine were readable and comprehensive, and not copy/pasted) --RichardMills65 (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In the case of Jagtial, the site that you identified had the notation "from Wikipedia" below the copied text. Many mirrors have some sort of similar notes. In other cases, one must look through the article history and, possibly using an internet archive site, determine whether the article text existed before the mirror. Looking through the mirror site can also give you an idea of whether it's mirroring Wikipedia, if there's a lot of content that is in the format of a Wikipedia article. (And yes, copyright investigation is a pain in the rump.)
 * I share your frustration with the nightly (at least for me) deluge of trash from South Asia. Often the best solution is to look through the article history and revert to a clean copy, or stub the article, to avoid throwing out the baby buried in the dirty bath. Danger High voltage! 03:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Danger, while I share your distaste for the dumpster load of poor English, I am not sure I have seen any "babies" in the bath water. Thanks for taking the time out to explain it though; I do appreciate that. --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Here's the baby. Danger High voltage! 03:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh, a shell of the former article. I like it better that way. --RichardMills65 (talk) 00:17, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Syrian uprising page
Looks like we got definitive consensus on the talk page by active users on the Syrian uprising page that the Syrian uprising page and its talk page should be protected. Sopher99 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Syrian_uprising_(2011–present)#RFP_.3F
 * Good to hear; hopefully we can bop the socks :) --RichardMills65 (talk) 00:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So ya gonna add the protection template to the page and its talk? Or do you not have the authority? Sopher99 (talk) 02:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism reverts
Please be careful when you revert vandalism. This was certainly correctly reverted as vandalism, but the vandalism was by IP 134.10.28.242 -- not me. RN1970 (talk) 19:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Evidently I can't read (or it's too late and I need to get to bed)! Sorry about that. RN1970 (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's no problem; we all do it. At least you came back and said something. Frequently I'm so far past it i forget what article or user I commented to. --RichardMills65 (talk) 05:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Re R41 edits on the Nazism page
Hello. I spotted the comment you posted on R-41's takpage and wanted to say I wholly agree. He has just ruined a recent attempt to improve the Church and State section on the Nazism page (see its talkpage for my reaction). I think his contributions, taken as a whole, amount to vandalism, even if unintended. Kim Traynor (talk) 10:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * that was quite long ago; and it appears he continues to be abrasive. perhaps you can reason with a moderator and point out examples ?--RichardMills65 (talk) 04:32, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Salazar
Could you add references for the paragraph you added on the article Gabriel Salazar. As you might have noticed the Spanish wiki is very poor on references. We should not go down into that level. -Chiton (talk) 03:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I can try, but i would venture to say that if the article is that bad, we shouldn't have a portal for it on the EN:WP. we should wait for someone to properly research it from english language sources. --RichardMills65 (talk) 03:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

fyi
You might want to have a look at this discussion. Cheers Kai9045 (talk) 03:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
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Hulas
Hi. Thank you for addeing pre-harappan pottery to Hulas. Picture of pre-indus pottery, c.2700 BCE, originally added to Hulas by you - this image is more appropriate at page Manda, Jammu, where pre- harappan pottery is excavated. So the picture was deleted from this page and pasted at Manda, Jammu. In Hulas, pre-harappan pottery is yet to be found.Rayabhari (talk) 15:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)