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Thread at WP:AE about Gibraltar in which your name is mentioned
Please see WP:AE. The May 2011 sanction about Gibraltar named yourself as well as Wee Curry Monster. That AE led to a proposal for an RfC about the disputed matters. It appears that the RfC was never conducted, and admins may need to decide if an RfC should still be required before all the restrictions are lifted. You may find this whole matter of little concern if you are no longer planning to actively edit at Gibraltar. You may comment in the AE thread if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The appeal by Wee Curry Monster against the May 2011 Gibraltar restriction that was also imposed on you and two others is successful. Please see this result. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Followup RFC to WP:RFC/AAT now in community feedback phase
Hello. As a participant in Requests for comment/Abortion article titles, you may wish to register an opinion on its followup RFC, Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage, which is now in its community feedback phase. Please note that WP:RFC/AAMC is not simply a repeat of WP:RFC/AAT, and is attempting to achieve better results by asking a more narrowly-focused, policy-based question of the community. Assumptions based on the previous RFC should be discarded before participation, particularly the assumption that Wikipedia has or inherently needs to have articles covering generalized perspective on each side of abortion advocacy, and that what we are trying to do is come up with labels for that. Thanks! —chaos5023 20:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
I personally wish to thank you for reverting vandalism from my user page! :) I appreciate it :) Thank you once again! Ahmer Jamil Khan (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! Richard Keatinge (talk) 17:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * It certainly is. There are strong feelings on the subject but we need a truly neutral article. Thank you. Richard Keatinge (talk) 07:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hepthalite Empire
So what happened this time? I was source presented. But however you again get change back. EMr KnG (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Hunnic Empire
Hello. You set according what is unscholarly claim? Substantially you do unscholarly claim. I've given resource. You changed according to your unscholarly claim! EMr KnG (talk) 11:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Perhaps this conversation would be better on the appropriate talk page, Talk:Hunnic Empire? Richard Keatinge (talk) 12:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I have not deleted any source. And I added to the presented source of information. So you can not say it is unscholarly. I think it is unnecessary to have source presented the discussion on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMr KnG (talk • contribs) 17:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Again changes you get back. But I highly reliable and verifiable sources presented. If you claim otherwise, you need to submit the source. Otherwise (as far as I know) you can not undo the changes. EMr KnG (talk) 14:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please gain consensus on the appropriate talk page before repeating this type of edit. Richard Keatinge (talk) 15:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hello. I have a account. But I can not log into my account for a while. Although there isn't a problem, the wrong password error. 85.99.73.72 (talk) 20:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

You got mail with a JSTOR file
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Roman Empire
Hi, Richard. I just made a massive revert at Roman Empire that unfortunately included your last edit. I'm sorry to be a prima donna, but I couldn't live with that citation system. Shall I restore your edit, or could I ask you to do it? It's a little hard for me to see to work with that section. Thanks, Cynwolfe (talk) 18:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll sort it, thanks for letting me know. If it means saving your valued self from an early and miserable death it's a very small price to pay. Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Edward and Walter Hungerford
Thanks to this edit it was easy to extract the information on the father and place it in a separate biography article. If you have time please look at Edward Hungerford (died 1522) and amend it as you see fit. -- PBS (talk) 12:18, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Occupational health psychology
Hi Richardkeatinge just a brief respectful notification of a message I have left for all editors on the occupational health psychology page. You are more than welcome to comment on my talk page also. Thank you. Mrm7171 (talk) 09:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * in Ammianus Marcellinus", Classical Quarterly, new series, 35 (1985), pp. 193, 195 http://www.jstor.org/stable/638815 He was not blind to the faults of Christians or of pagans;
 * Christianity in Ammianus Marcellinus", Classical Quarterly, new series, 35 (1985), p. 198 http://www.jstor.org/stable/638815

Re: Ammianus Marcellinus
I figured your edit was simply meant to clean up my awkward style. However, there is a surprisingly wide spectrum of opinions about what Marcellinus' attitude towards Christianity was; this spectrum ranges from him being an actual Christian (the demands of the ancient historical genre forcing him to assume a pagan persona) to being deeply & darkly ironic, if not sarcastically hostile, toward Christianity. My edit was to give the reader (& hopefully a future contributor) a clue about that wide divergence of opinion. Hunt's paper in the Classical Quarterly surveys the views before offering his own analysis. If you're interested in Hunt's paper, use the "Email this user" link on my page & I'll send you a pdf of his article from JSTOR. -- llywrch (talk) 06:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Just saw your latest revision. It works for me. -- llywrch (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Your latest edit on Mounted archery
Is there a reason why you reverted my copy edits and cleanup templates to Mounted archery with no discussion? As a courtesy, I have not reverted your edit, but I am requesting that you self-revert and manually remove any unsourced content that you find objectionable. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

My apologies; there was rather a lot of unsourced rubbish and I didn't notice your improvements. Richard Keatinge (talk) 16:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Shark_Island_Extermination_Camp#Requested_move_2
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Shark_Island_Extermination_Camp. FOARP (talk) 10:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to discuss content not behavior
Hi RK. I have had the 2 'content' questions on the base of the talk page for a day or 2 now. If interested in adding your comments, please do. I am only interested in discussing content, moving forward and making this article what Wikipedia wants it to be. I'm sure you would want a Medical article to be just as encyclopedic. Thanks.Mrm7171 (talk) 13:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC) RK, when you have time, could you please assist with archiving some of the talk page as has been done previously for edits older than 30 days. I have tried but failed in my own attempts and lack of technical competence with code. Thank you.Mrm7171 (talk) 01:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi RK. You just deleted without discussion, 2 reliable sources. In other parts of the article there are 4 sources for a statement. The two sources were not needed to be removed. Do we really need to go to an administrator just to get this ridiculous situation sorted? There were originally 10, now you remove all of them? and say no reliable sources are needed? Wikipedia is based on reliable sources RK. Please feel free to reply on my talk page or the article talk page, as required.Mrm7171 (talk) 09:09, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Revert only when necessary could you please discuss before 'blindly reverting' without any discussion, only days after dispute resolution and with obvious editor conflicts on the OHP article. I would appreciate it if you undid your revert please RK. So we may have a civil discussion first. I will not engage in edit warring and therefore have not reverted it again. Thank you.Mrm7171 (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hunnic language
Dear Richard Keatinge, I do not understand your deletion of the referenced facts associated with the Hunnic language. If you have problems with any cited fact, we can discuss it further, but a wholesale deletion of the citation appears to be unjustified, rather the intent is to curtail the studies pertaining to the Huns and their language. You retained Pritsak's reference, for example, although Pritsak's study is miniscule in scope and the sources used, and was limited to the onomasticon, which is recognized to be only a supplementary material, to corroborate observations drawn from the other sources - historical, ethnological, archeological, etc. Please reconsider your deletion of the cited reference, or find reasons to refute any of the cited material. I will be more than glad to supply you with any additional pertaining material. Barefact (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks; this needs further discussion and I suggest that Talk:Hunnic language is the place for it. Richard Keatinge (talk) 08:04, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Health psychology
Could you weigh in on an editorial dispute between Mrm7171 and me on how to edit the health psychology entry? Thank you Iss246 (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Added the reference from iss246 and whatamidoing that Occupational health psych is a specialization of health psychology. 'Their supposed' reliable source, not mine is attached. Are they wrong? I'm confused Probably best to discuss rather than blindly revert their reliable source. I Have no idea what OHP is actually?Mrm7171 (talk) 11:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I suggest that this is best discussed at the talk page for occupational health psychology. Richard Keatinge (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

You just seem so certain OHP is occupational health psychology? Is it? If it is a specialization of health psych, how can it be also OHP? Which is which. You just edited the acronym OHP, so thought you could answer this conundrum seeing you seemed so certain? I'm confused? Oh well, I agree iss246 and whatamidoing need to answer it on talk page.Mrm7171 (talk) 12:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I was wondering if you had any disagreements with the points I listed, and if so what those disagreements might be. They seem to lie at the root of some recent problems and your views would be particularly welcome. Richard Keatinge (talk) 18:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion you placed on my talk page earlier today. Iss246 (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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Richard (Harte) Keatinge
Hi, Richard Keatinge. Richard Harte Keatinge has been moved back. JamKaftan (talk) 15:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Richard Keatinge (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Help with article please
Hi Richardkeatinge, could you please take a look at a reliable source I added today to the occupational safety and health article. Would appreciate your opinion on this inclusion. There is an entire section in this 2013 source, discussing OH&S, as one of the key areas in occupational/work psychology. Thanks. Appreciate your input.Mrm7171 (talk) 06:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to mention it was the addition to the last sentence, second paragraph of article. I made an addition to the psychosocial hazards section also, including fatigue (safety) but that's accepted. Thanks again. Mrm7171 (talk) 06:13, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Industrial/organizatonal psychology
I need the help of a veteran editor like yourself on the industrial/organizational psychology talk page. Iss246 (talk) 02:40, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Advice on the Highland Clearances dispute
I note your comment: "Valid options include How to lose and Dispute resolution." Do you think I should disengage from the debate and leave the IP editor to do what he wishes? We succeeded in cleaning up the lead but do not seem likely to make any more progress. What normally occurs when Wikipedia encounters a determined individual such as this one who cannot be persuaded to respect Wikipedia conventions? Camerojo (talk) 21:46, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The comments were more meant for the IP. I think that there are enough editors prepared to watch the article and that we should simply continue to edit, politely, to give a well-sourced and well-balanced encyclopedic article. It's difficult for a single editor to win an edit war of their own choosing against a strong and well-founded consensus. If the matter goes on much longer, we might have to involve an administrator. Richard Keatinge (talk) 22:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Were there British Roman client states?
The Kingdom of Dyfed has suddenly become a client state of Rome. And who are these kings during the Roman period? I reverted. Not sure where is the best place to discuss this. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:59, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably best on the individual talk pages for the time being. Requests for citations may be in order. I presume that these Roman-period kings originate from some over-interpreted version of the Harleian genealogies. I'd require very good secondary sources before I'd describe minimally-attested, presumably-federate commanders as definite "kings". Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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OHP article issue
For your information. Psyc12 (talk) 14:02, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I shall keep an eye on it. Richard Keatinge (talk) 14:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I strongly suggest that you personally RK, start making those substantial changes you believe, are required. But you do need to make a start, as talking about an 'overhaul' has proven futile and has been ignored by other editors. As I say, you will quickly see what opposition you get from these other editors once you actually start. So, I encourage you to just do it!Mrm7171 (talk) 12:37, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

New development.Psyc12 (talk) 23:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

POV-Warrior
Hi. It's better to report this user to admins. I've reviewed his edits. His blanking and unsourced edits (sometimes he did falsification) show that he is not here to improve the articles. I think other editors reverted almost all of his edits. --Zyma (talk) 04:49, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I see he's been blocked now. Richard Keatinge (talk) 09:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Notification
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Misleading and out of context
Jayaguru-Shishya did not respond to my comment. You misplaced my comment. QuackGuru ( talk ) 20:34, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's keep talk to the page of the appropriate article. Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:10, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Fall of the Western Roman Empire
I was just reading this in-depth and well-written article when I noticed that quite a few of the citations refer to a 2007 book by Halsall, which for some reason is not listed in the References section. I don't know how to rectify this error with the proper formatting, so I decided to let you know about it, since you seem to be keeping track of the article.Huntthetroll (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you liked the article, I wrote most of it and still warden it. Thanks for letting me know about the problem. I have fixed it. Richard Keatinge (talk) 15:11, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

HUNS
I CITED PERFECTLY GOOD SOURCES YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE. YOU DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING BUT YOU THINK YOU DO JUST BECAUSE YOU ONCE DID SOMETHING GOOD FOR WIKIPEDIA. I CITED GOOD SOURCES GO AND FUCKING LOOK AT THEM. FUCK OFF YOU LOW LIFE CUNT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryAddict2000 (talk • contribs) 04, 5 August 2014


 * Well, that earned him a nice 3 day holiday. With homework to learn about sources. He knows not to make personal attacks but doesn't seem able to control himself. Dougweller (talk) 13:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * And his response to my block convinces me that he is WP:NOTHERE for long. Dougweller (talk) 13:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * He seems to have convinced several other Admins so he's gone now for good. Quite an amazing series of rants. Dougweller (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Good block, though I've been called worse and survived. Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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Article Revision
Regarding your revision to the article on the Highland Clearances: I would appreciate it if you negate what I said with a source. I can understand it is a delicate issue for some people, yet it remains in the written record and I was as fair about this in my wording as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.7.13 (talk) 15:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hunnic language
So I spend hours of researching about the Hunnic language, I edit the Hunnic language page TO ADD to Wikipedia, and you come and tear it down, what is wrong with you? I cited my sources, and I abided by Wikipedia's policy, why do you want to wreck hours of my work? Please tell me what I was doing wrong. You could have at least come to me and told me you didn't like it before ruining my work... you said in your user page you revert vandalism, THIS IS NOT VANDALISM IT IS A HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO WIKIPEDIA. Sorry for the cap spam.


 * This conversation will be more appropriate on the relevant talk page. Richard Keatinge (talk) 19:26, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

It is more than 1 historian, Attila appearance confirm by Mongoloid Denis Sinor
World leading historian of Central Asia Denis Sinor also claimed his appearance was Mongoloid. Please do not write only 1, as there are few more Hungarian I know

The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia, Volume 1 edited by Denis Sinor

This is what he said:

"The eye-witness description of Attila given by priscus is that of a Mongoloid "

The description of Huns given by the Romans has prompted historians to believe they were of East Asian origin. Denis Sinor, noting the paucity of anthropological evidence, wrote that:

"there is no reason to question the basic accuracy of the western descriptions, and the absence of massive supporting evidence by physical anthropology cannot weaken the point they so tellingly make. It is the unusual that most attracts attention.

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Clarification motion
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How do you get to decide who is notable and who is not?
Bow in the U.S. TV series Black-ish may not have her own article, but most TV characters don't.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability usually. Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * But that's for articles. Lots of people and ideas get to have entries on disambiguation pages as long as there's a blue link. Let's say someone remembers only that there's a sitcom where the wife/mother is called "Bo". Now I have a hard time making a case for that on the Bo page, but on Bow, that's completely logical.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  14:11, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The idea of mentioning under Bow the nickname of a minor character in a transient show itself of marginal notability seems absurd to me, but perhaps we could get a third opinion? We might apply the answer to the article Rainbow as well. Richard Keatinge (talk) 16:08, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a minor character, and whether it's a "transient" show is debatable. For now it is a hit. And she gets second billing. I appreciate you considering a third opinion. I'll consider Rainbow too.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:20, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

January 2015
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 * ...Must have been a misclick, definitely not intentional, very sorry. Richard Keatinge (talk) 12:37, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Since you are dealing with the Uniquark/Khorichar socks?
See here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Bicycle helmet laws
The editor was changing links in references to advertising sites, leaving the rest of the reference looking genuine. Blocked. Dougweller (talk) 13:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This one is almost amusing. Dougweller (talk) 13:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Uniquark9 reported for edit warring
If you were interested. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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Inaccurate anthropology data
There is obviously cherry picked bias data on wikipedia. Either remove it or stop being otherwise you might as well claim that the Huns were Yuezhi or some iranian people. The anthropology data edited by 93.152.143.113 ( you need sign up to see the data )

THIS IS BLATANTLY CHERRY PICKING DATA TO SUIT THE USERS TASTE. If you're going to mention the anthropology data at least be accurate and mention the whole story so it don't mislead others.

93.152.143.113 edited from the source of medscape

"The taxonomic analysis of the artificially deformed crania from 5th–6th Century AD (Hun-Germanic Period) found in Northeastern Hungary showed that none of them have any Mongoloid features and all the skulls belong to the Europid "great race".[34] "

However from the very same source of medscape it mentions in page 2 and 4, it mentions they have problem assigning these graves and skeletons as Huns.
 * https://login.medscape.com/login/sso/getlogin?urlCache=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZWRzY2FwZS5jb20vdmlld2FydGljbGUvODIzMTM0XzI=&ac=401
 * http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/823134_4

'''Archaeologists have problems assigning graves and skeletons to the Huns for several reasons. The origin and the culture of the peoples who lived in the Carpathian Basin in the Hun-Germanic Period (5th–6th century ad), are still a matter of debate. However, it has been pointed out that the custom of artificial cranial deformation appeared with all these peoples; that is, with the Sarmatian, Alan, Gothic, Gepidic, and Hun populations equally.[39] '''

An than user 93.152.143.113 included data from " Otto Maenchen-Helfen. E. A. Thompson,  which has nothing to do with the medscape study at all.

Also why was this data removed, it was on the Huns wiki page for at least a 1 year. It at least deserves a mention. At least list on the reason why there not realible.

Hungarian archaeologist István Bóna argues that most of Europeans Huns were of Caucasoid and that less than 20-25% were of Mongoloid stock. Turanid was most common among the Hun, According to the Hungarian anhtropologist Pál Lipták (1955) the Turanid type is a Caucasoid type with significant Mongoloid admixture, arising from the mixture of the Andronovo type of Europoid features and the Oriental (Mongoloid). Cheboksarov noted that typical Mongoloids of "Central Asiatic type, " with a large, flat face, a great morphological facial height, and a wide bizygomatic breadth, were unknown in Europe until the appearance of "steppe nomads in the fourth century A.D., "i.e., the very same Huns. The Mongoloid character of the anthropological type of the Huns, who penetrated Europe in the fourth century is also confirmed by the historical sources." -Lev Vasil´evich Oshanin, Henry Field, "Anthropological composition of the population of Central Asia: and the ethnogenesis of its peoples", Peabody Museum, 1964. Page 18 (talk) 86.138.237.156 17:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Acupuncture
Sorry about the uncommunicative comments from others at Talk:Acupuncture, but I'm hoping you can ignore that and consider my response at the bottom of that section (07:54, 26 September 2015). I don't know why, but the talk is very quiet at the moment and now would be a good opportunity to settle the issue. Johnuniq (talk) 02:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I shall. Richard Keatinge (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Proscription
I just wanted to thank you for taking the time in writing your explanation and the recommendation of the histo-fiction. I'll add that to my list. Which Hazel? (talk) 05:56, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * My pleasure. Richard Keatinge (talk) 09:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thank you for reminding me that there's only one thing that is truly important on wiki.

I needed a reason smile today, so thanks for providing it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:21, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to have made your day a little better. Richard Keatinge (talk) 07:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Does this seem similar?
Did this edit seem quite similar to you? Perhaps a sockpuppet of EMr KnG? --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * It does. I see some IP has already labelled him as the newest account of Tirgil34. WP:DUCK applies. Richard Keatinge (talk) 07:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Just out of curiosity
Hi!

I'm sorry to bother you, but I didn't really realise, that Attila's name was a topic of flaming discussion, until I read the comments on the talk page - that is the comments above mine, all capitals and stuff like that. :-)

As for me, I just browsed the article and left a comment. Still, the accepted version among scholars is the Gothic one. What would you consider to be adequate evidence? I have the bible in Gothic studies, so that part of it isn't in doubt. Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 00:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sigh! Don't feel obliged to answer any of my remarks. I just took a look at the article about the Hunnic language and it's a hornet's nest. Count me out. :-) Cheers Sorte Slyngel (talk) 00:52, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

28 November 2015
Dear Mr Keatinge,

I would like to express that i am deeply saddened with your warning, as a new user trying to serve and contribute to wikipedia objectively... I would also like to suggest you to review the Xiongnu's revision history, there you can obviously see that the editing war is being done by a user named Persia2099 who is tyring to make his own nations propaganda. In brief,with complete and utter disappointment i would like to state that i will be truely glad if you would reconsider this situation as an old and more experienced user...

Kind Regards

--Yakbul (talk) 03:08, 28 November 2015 (UTC)