User talk:Richardbroadbridge979

Welcome, Richardbroadbridge979!


Welcome to Wikipedia, Richardbroadbridge979! I'm FormalDude, and I've been assigned as your mentor. Around 10% of new Wikipedia accounts receive a mentor randomly taken from a list of volunteers. It just means I'm here to help with anything you need! We need to have all kinds of people working together to create an online encyclopedia, so I'm glad you're here. Over time, you will figure out what you enjoy doing the most on Wikipedia.

You might have noticed that you have access to a tutorial and suggested edits. It's recommended that you take advantage of this, as it'll make learning how to edit Wikipedia easier.

If you need assistance with anything or have any questions, click on the "Get editing help" button on the bottom right corner of your screen. This will open up a module with links to help pages and a place to ask me questions. You can also ask me questions directly on my talk page, or go here to get help from the wider community.

Again, welcome to Wikipedia! –– Formal Dude  (talk)  10:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
Hello. Your recent edit to St Andrew's Cathedral School appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. Meters (talk) 05:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Meters,
 * It is a notable person as this person is the nephew of a duke and himself is a Lord and is autotmaticaly British Nobility.
 * The Source I provided was reputable. Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 05:30, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited on Wikipedia. Your edit claimed that someone without an Wikipedia article to show notability was notable simply because he was related to a notable person. There was no reference to show that the supposed alumnus actually attended the school, and your source showed only that his supposed relative was listed in Debretts, but did not mention the supposed alumnus. Meters (talk) 05:43, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Meters thats where your wrong my source states very cleary that Lord Hodgkinson attended St Andrews Cathedral School. I have attached a screenshot as proof.


 * Regards Richard Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 10:21, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hodgkinson2entry.png Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 10:31, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That does not appear to be the page you provided as your original source. Perhaps the problem is that the page is behind a paywall. In any case, it does not resolve the issue that you are presuming notability for someone without a Wikipedia article. Simply being a member of the nobility or related to one is not sufficient to presume notability. See WP:WTAF. And I have requested the speedy deletion of your upload of that page. It is not your work as you claimed. It is a screen shot of a paid-access, copyrighted data base. Please read WP:COPYVIO. Meters (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * even still I have seen it used several times within wikipedia as a notable source.
 * example in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_peers_and_baronets
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Great_Chamberlain Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * also a I took the screenshot for your refrence. Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 02:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have notable sources. It has reliable sources. See WP:RS. I'm not saying that Debrett's is not reliable. I'm saying that I could not verify what the source says because it is a subscription website which I do not have access to. That' OK, reliable sources do not have to be freely available, they just have to be verifiable. That means that they have been published in some form and that it is possible for someone (not necessarily everyone) to verify the content. And you appear to be conflating the reliability (not notability) of a source with the notability of a person who is mentioned in that source. Debrett's is likely a reliable source for the person being an alumnus, but that does not mean the person is notable. And unless you can point to a Wikipedia consensus that simply being a British Lord means that we can presume notability (I'm not aware of any such consensus) you need to WP:WTAF. Meters (talk) 04:13, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If I find you another reliable source that you can accsess will you restore back my entrys on Lord Hodgkinson. Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 05:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No. Read what I wrote. A reliable source for his attendance does not show his notability. Meters (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to show his notability. This has been explained to you on User talk:FormalDude too. Meters (talk) 06:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * And, as I explained, a screenshot of a copyrighted page is not your work. You cannot upload it to Wikipedia and grant others the right to use it. Did you read the WP:COPYVIO I linked to? Copyright violation is a violation of Wikimedia:Terms of Use and is taken very seriously. Meters (talk) 04:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Richardbroadbridge979, In addition to adding non notables to Wikipedia articles, per WP:WTAF, please don't do this, which is a textbook example of WP:OVERLINK. Thank you, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:45, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Karowei Dorgu, but please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in Karowei Dorgu, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. See MOS:& and MOS:SECTIONCAPS specifically for more info. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  10:48, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * that a very small mistake and it didint require you to come here and give me a lecture on it.
 * Thats just petty Richardbroadbridge979 (talk) 09:29, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's not a very civil comment to make, nor does it foster collaboration. You need to be open to learning about how to edit here or you won't make it very far. I'm not trying to lecture you, I'm just giving friendly advice. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  19:53, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was a small mistake, but it was against the manual of style, and FormalDude just left you a low-level notice about it. It was not "petty" or "a lecture". You are a new user and FormalDude was just letting you know why your edit was undone. Would you prefer to keep making that mistake and not have anyone tell you why you were being undone? Meters (talk) 20:21, 14 September 2023 (UTC)