User talk:RichieConant34

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Hello, RichieConant34, and welcome to Wikipedia! I have noticed that you are fairly new! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. I also see that some of your recent edits show an interest in the use of images and/or photos on Wikipedia.

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 * ...most images from Flickr, online news websites, and other web sources are copyrighted?
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Brian Scal 44.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Brian Scal 44.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the file appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted content borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Picture Uploads
I want to be able to update outdated pictures of NBA players. Players like Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green, etc are shown earlier in their careers playing for teams they are no longer a part of. Fpr example, Paul Pierce is shown in his Wizards uniform when he is now a member of the LA Clippers. I would love to be able to replace the current "main picture" for many of the NBA players but I'm not sure how to do this without running into legal issues. How can I use pictures from the internet and upload them to use as a persons's "main picture"?

--RichieConant34 (talk) 22:32, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your message. Unfortunately 99.9% of images you find online are not allowed on Wikipedia due to copyright reasons. Copyright protection is automatic once someone takes a photograph, and they reserve all rights to their images unless they've explicitly released the image under a free license.  The options are to either take the pictures yourself, and release them under a free license, or find someone who has taken the pictures themselves who is willing to release the photos under a free license by following the instructions at WP:DONATEIMAGE.  Sometimes Flickr is a good source for freely licensed images online.  --Nick&#8288;—&#8288;Contact/Contribs 22:42, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Update Picture
Hello. Yesterday I tried uploading new pictures to Wiki but I was doing it incorrectly. Can you please check the picture I have put up on Kevin Garnetts page to see if I did this one correctly. --RichieConant34 (talk) 22:22, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

I just looked at the picture in the page info section and it seemed to have some conflict concerning "All rights reserved" on Flickr. I removed it from Garnett's page. Does this mean the photo below can not be used?


 * It cannot unfortunately as it's not a free license. For example the current one at least allows it to be used whereas the one you're referring to limits all other uses including Wikipedia, thus not acceptable. Sincerely, SwisterTwister   talk  22:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If there is a public-domain photo of him, it can not be used. If not, it may fall under the fair-use policy, see WP:FAIRUSE. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 22:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * SwisterTwister ThePlatypusofDoom Can you provide a link of a picture on Flickr than could be used? I've heard that many pictures on Wiki come from Flickr.
 * You can refer to File:Kevin Garnett 2008-01-13.jpg, which is also the main image already at Kevin Garnett. Please also refer to Flickr_files for tips on searching Flickr. Good luck.—Bagumba (talk) 22:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

DeMarcus Cousins
Please cite a wp:reliable source. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 05:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

NBA deals
They must be complete and announced by the teams before being updated on Wikipedia. The trades aren’t official until that point. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

What is considered an official announcement of a sign, trade, waiving, etc
I'm sure all of us are all too familiar with the severe uptick in edits towards a player's page once speculation in regard to a trade, signing, or other transaction arises in the media. To be clear, I understand many of these reports, tweets, and rumors don't actually come to fruition, but it gets to a point where such a strict system causes Wikipedia to appear as though the information isn't updated constantly and as soon as possible. Of course, it is important to be able to distinguish between something that is "almost a done deal" or "clear front runners" from "Player1 has been traded to City for Player2 and a future draft pick". These phrases are commonly used from reliable NBA insiders like Adrian Wojnarowski and Shams Charania with the third phrase very often indicating an official trade that comes to fruition shortly after. I am aware that ever so often (extremely rarely), there will be an "official" Woj or Shams report/tweet that ends up falling through, namely DeAndre Jordan in 2015, but these outliers shouldn't hold up the editing process of staying up to date with accurate and reliable information.

A perfect example of this, while there are many around this time in the off season, is Aron Baynes. Right now, Aron Baynes is listed as a member of the Boston Celtics on Wikipedia. Looking at the Boston Celtics official homepage, yes, Aron Baynes is still listed on the roster, but this trade was announced by Woj and Shams on draft night and effected the draft selections because the Celtics (technically the 76ers) were making the pick for the Phoenix Suns. The trade was generally reported as: "The Celtics are trading Aron Baynes and the No. 24 pick to the Suns for a future 2020 first round pick. The Suns are focused on Ty Jerome at No. 24." This trade has been reported on multiple times since draft night and in the eyes of the NBA and the players involved, it is a done deal. I'm sure there is some official date or rule that makes it so these trades are technically not "official" yet, but I think it is important not to mislead casual fans who are curious about what team a player is on at any given time. The NBA website has been known to be the last source you can go to when trying to figure out who is on what team, and to me it is honestly embarrassing. I understand that it may be because they wait for everything to be squared away perfectly, but I believe it hurts the reputation of the website and makes it very difficult for fans to keep up to date especially around this time of year.

Now, some of you might argue that Wiki should just go off of what the poorly managed NBA website has to say and when it updates rosters or announces trades, then it is okay for Wiki users to do the same. I don't agree with this at all strictly because the NBA website is always behind, but I'm not even sure that the NBA website is what wiki bases it's "official" edits on. Aron Baynes is listed as a Celtic on NBA.com, a Celtic on Wiki, and a Sun on ESPN. Ty Jerome, the No. 24 pick that was involved in the Baynes trade, is listed a 76er on NBA.com, a Sun on Wiki, and a Celtic on ESPN. Clearly, there is some discrepancy on what is official and when it becomes so, among other huge information platforms as well. Carsen Edwards, another draft day trade, is listed as a 76er on NBA.com, a Celtic on Wiki, and a Celtic on ESPN.

I am all for accurate and reliable information on Wikipedia, but I also believe people come to Wikipedia for updated information as well, especially for sports. Due to their resumes and positive reliability over many years, I believe that a report by Woj or Shams stating "Player1 has been traded" or "Team1 and Player1 have agreed to a stated contract", should be considered legit and therefore warrant an update on the player or players page(s). On the off chance that a reported done deal falls through, then these edits are easily revertible. When reports do start to come in, as they already have, moderators do a great job on getting protection on the pages so only certain people can make edits and I think this is necessary and important going forward if the community decides to go through with this idea. Please let me know any other suggestions, agreements, disagreements you all have.
 * How you personally believe Wikipedia should work runs contrary to actual policy; see WP:NOTNEWS points 1 and 2.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand that, I am motioning to get the policy changed here. I believe I make some valid points and would like to get feedback from other users. RichieConant34 (talk) 22:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You can't motion to get the policy changed here; you would need to start a binding Request for Comment at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not if you wish to pursue changes to the policy. I don't think there is any chance at all of your proposed changes occurring as they run completely against the purpose of this encyclopedia (and encyclopedias as a whole), but you're free to give it a shot. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Policy aside, I'm wondering what people think about the proposition. This is my view on specifically the NBA and its players and I'm generally curious if others agree or make sense of what I am talking about. If it gets traction, then maybe we can bring it upon a board for review, but right now I would just like for people to chime in, give your ideas about the current system. RichieConant34 (talk) 23:08, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * On the NBA it always has been when the team makes an official announcement, which won’t be until the trade can be officially completed. Additionally, in regards to a policy change, keep the page to match the current policy, then post on the project talk page and wait for a consensus before editing the page.-- Rockchalk 717 23:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you link the project talk page for me? RichieConant34 (talk) 23:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It’s what you already posted on.-- Rockchalk 717 23:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Rockchalk 717 Ok that's what I thought. Now we just wait for responses. RichieConant34 (talk) 00:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Enes Kanter
I’m not going to be a dick about it, but Kanter hasn’t officially signed anything. Supposedly the Celts are playing cap games to work a better deal for Carsen Edwards. In other words, the source is wrong in that it erroneously says he signed a deal. I see you massaged that in the Wikipedia entry (“agreed to”), but it starts to show some of the reasons reporting ahead of announcement is flaws. Rikster2 (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)\
 * I went ahead and updated the source to one that specified "agreed" to. RichieConant34 (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Skills champion
You probably weren't aware, but there's no consensus to add Skills champion to the infobox per WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS. Feel free to add to the body if it's not already there. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 17:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You should reply to Jay Starz's proposal on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association. I agree with him as it doesn't make sense to not include it while including the 3 point and dunk contest.

Page moves
It doesn't seem like you are following WP:RM to request your page moves, so they are not being formatted and made visible to the community.—Bagumba (talk) 00:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020
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August 2021
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Dennis Schröder. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. ''Agreeing to a deal is not the same as being signed (past tense). Refer to WP:SPORTSTRANS.'' —Bagumba (talk) 14:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You guys continue to do such a great job quickly reverting well thought out and accurate information. Schroder himself announced this signing yesterday. Yes, I know the difference between "agree" and "sign", and Yes, I understand there are other novice editors who will make edits strictly based on rumors, I just think its laughable the constant uphill battle you moderators continue to fight. You should welcome quick edits like these, ESPECIALLY after moratorium and an actual announcement by the player involved. As for "original research" or "novel syntheses", the information I included is highly relevant as for why Schroder joined the Celtics. Stating that the Celtics traded Kemba and were in need of guards is not "original research", its a fact. As for my cited sources, well I could've included 100 if you wanted, but I thought globally reputable sources like ESPN and Sports Illustrated would be good choices for this announcement.


 * I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but its frustrating to take time to make what I think of as a sincere edit that can help depict the current layout of the league, only to be shot down moments later by a moderator (usually you...) linking different rules or baselines that I honestly barely understand and am still confused about. It is very off putting for someone who really is just trying to help the website. I say it every year, you might even remember my username at this point, these edit wars can't be fun for anyone and it really seems like an uphill battle that leaves bad tastes in everyone's mouths. These rules were made years ago. Media travels faster and more accurately than ever now in this league. Revisit the rules or guidelines or whatever, it just seems silly to me. RichieConant34 (talk) 16:17, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the last discussion was here. You are free to establish a new consensus at WT:NBA. For better or for worse, we're editing a crowd-sourced platform, which always has that boilerplate Any work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone—subject to certain terms and conditions at every edit. Not to be glib, but we all deal with reverts or being in the minority at some point. I do sympathize. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 17:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Stating that the Celtics traded Kemba and were in need of guards is not "original research", ... That was not removed. Only your changes to the lead that incorrectly made the agreement look like a completed deal were reverted. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:04, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought you were referring to that when you said Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Dennis Schröder. RichieConant34 (talk) 22:51, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. Sometimes people make an attempt to WP:PRESERVE even when other parts need to be removed.—Bagumba (talk) 01:30, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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