User talk:Richwales/Archives/2011-11

Nicosia
(copied from Seb az86556's talk page)

Hi. I'm trying to make sense of what has been going on today at Nicosia.

What, specifically, do you see as the problem with [ this change] by ? I tried comparing the two versions of the page, and although I do see differences in imagery, it's not clear to me why one version would be preferred over the other. Is there a Greek/Turkish POV issue here that I'm missing? Sorry if I'm being dense here.

Also, are you saying that MariaPetridou appears to be a sock of ? Rich wales (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * a) there has been a discussion on the talkpage regarding the infobox-picture, and this is the current consensus-version (a collage that was specifically made for this article) b) Giorgoos and his socks have been replacing said collage with a different pictures (in most cases some skyline) over the past months without ever commenting @ talk or elsewhere. All this has me guess it could be Giorgoos, but I'm not sure. In any event, there's a talkpage, an Maria can use it. Cheers. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 00:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks.  Rich wales (talk) 00:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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Would you consider semi-protecting Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal for the same reason as you did Paterno? Thanks. jheiv talk  contribs 01:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added this page to my watch list. I can't semi-protect it at this point because the vandalism hasn't reached a stage requiring more than manual reversion of each incident.  If it gets noticeably worse, however, semi-protection may be in order.  —  Rich wales (talk) 02:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * And I noticed more just now, and I've semi-protected the page for two weeks. —  Rich wales (talk) 02:58, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

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3RR/Natural-born citizen clause of the U.S. Constitution.
[copied from talk page of (a.k.a. Chuck Hamilton)]

Chuck, not everyone who observes that there is controversy regarding "natural born citizen" vs. "citizen at birth" is a "birther". I, for one, am definitely not a birther. We're simply acknowledging that there is (and historically has been) disagreement over the exact meaning of "natural born citizen" — a state of affairs which long predates the current epidemic of Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories.

Also, a reminder that we (Wikipedia editors) are strongly advised to be civil at all times when discussing matters with our peers. Subtle nuances which are obvious in face-to-face conversation may not carry over to a print-only medium. We should avoid saying things that might be misunderstood as attacks or threats — and, by the same token, we should try to give others some amount of benefit of the doubt and accept that they might not really have intended something to be a personal attack. And since Wikipedia has a very strong policy against legal threats, it's probably best not even to joke around here about taking someone to court (just as you would never joke about certain subjects in an airport or on a plane) — not anywhere on the site, not even on your own user page or talk page. I see you've been involved with Wikipedia for some time now, so you've probably been exposed to this stuff before, but maybe a gentle reminder is in order.

And for what it's worth, I note that you've been blocked for two days for violating WP:3RR. This block was imposed by, not by me. — Rich wales (talk) 21:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * "Citizen by birth" and "natural born citizenship" are the same thing. The two terms are used interchangeably in laws and court rulings. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 22:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Cites, please? —  Rich wales (talk) 22:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Common sense for starters, but I've seen several while researching this online the past few days. But since this is my talk page, not that of an article, that's all the explanation you're due.  If you want them, go find them yourself. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 00:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you had asked more politely and less demandingly blunt as if you had a right to speak to me like that, you would have received a more polite answer. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I meant no insult, and I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my abbreviated question as being discourteous. Understand, though, that if you do decide to try to add the above "used interchangeably" claim to the article after your block expires, you will be expected to back up your claim with citations to reliable sources.  Per WP:BURDEN: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material."  —  Rich wales (talk) 01:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm washing my hands of that particular article. Y'all have fun. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 02:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * And given your stated wishes, I've taken the liberty of removing a comment on the article that was left here, and [ moving it] to the article's talk page where it belongs. —  Rich wales (talk) 16:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)