User talk:Rickatcrista

Welcome!
Hello Rickbatesatcrista, welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page contains a lot of helpful material for new users—please check it out! If you need help, visit Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place   on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. NtheP (talk) 20:12, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Leroy Dorminy


A tag has been placed on Leroy Dorminy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. dalahäst (let's talk!) 20:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:CRISTA Ministries
Will you please explain why you are removing information from this template and instead inserting a link to the advisory board of the Christian Veterinary Mission - which is not even the board of Christa Ministries. Even if it were the point is that the information is contained within Wikipedia and does not send its readers off elsewhere on the internet. NtheP (talk) 20:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Was the issue that the list of directors was out of date? If so, now updated with information from the 2011 Annual report. NtheP (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

The board of directors (Officers), and the Board of Directors (Members) info is completely incorrect. The 2011 Annual report is for CRISTA Ministries, not Christian Veterinary Mission [which has its own board, and officers] The list of each changes regularly. based on recent previous communications [from the Wiki Police], I should not be doing this at all.

Who will then [make the changes]?

Please remove the incorrect entries - Thanks you. - Board of Directors (Officers) 	Deborah Limb, Kirsten Miller, Kevin Gabebelin, Steve Gray

Board of Directors (Members) 	Craig Campbell,   Dale Cowles,    Anita Crawford-Willis,    Brad Decker,    David Ederer Michael Eggers,   Jim Funfar,    Mark Gibson,    Morris N. Harper,    Tim Jenkins,    Bob Lonac, Curt J. Nicholls,   Leslie Parrott,    George Petrie,    Stephen N. Quillin,    Warren Van Genderen


 * I think you are missing the point that the template refers to Crista ministries and needs to reflect their board membership. CVM is a part of the minisitries hence the template being attached to that article - it's not meant to reflect the board of CVM.  If the current board members of Crista are wrong then even with a conflict of interest there is nothing wrong with you amending the template to include the correct information as that is straightforward factual information.  Note I am saying amend to correct not delete altogether.  If you say the names are not correct and you work for them I suggest you get http://www.crista.org/about/board/ updated before worrying about wikipedia. NtheP (talk) 20:42, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright and conflict of interest
Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere without a formal copyright release - see Copy-paste and for more detail Copyrights. You wrote that you are employed by the owner of the website, but it does not follow that you have authority to release their material under Wikipedia's license terms, which permit any reader to copy, modify and re-use for any purpose including commercial. A formal copyright release as described at WP:Donating copyright materials is essential to confirm that the actual copyright owner understands what is involved and agrees.

However, I do not recommend making a release, because the material is unsuitable for other reasons - written in the first person ("we volunteered our services... "), promotional tone, and the subject seems to be the organization rather than Dr Dorminy who is the nominal subject of the article. Also, a piece copied from a website will not provide the references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" to establish the WP:Notability necessary for a Wikipedia article.

You wrote that you are employed by Crista Ministries as an online marketing specialist. I have to tell you that Wikipedia is strongly resistant to being used for marketing or promotion of any kind, and from our point of view your job gives you a severe conflict of interest which means you should not be writing here about your employer or its affairs. Wikipedia is a project to build a neutral and independent encyclopedia: it is not a "noticeboard" site like Myspace or Facebook for people and organizations to write about themselves.

Please read:
 * Conflict of interest
 * Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest
 * FAQ/Organizations
 * Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause
 * User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard

JohnCD (talk) 21:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I guess correcting [removing] incorrect information is COI. Interesting...

I would like to delete my account [I cannot rename it], can you point me the where I can find out how to do this? Then I will create a new account [manInBrownDogSuite] or something similar. I will not admit who I am, or where I work. Most of all I will not promote anything... I will write this on an old fashioned black board 1000 times, with white chalk [as soon as I find one on Ebay].

Seems as though I have seen many sites promoting their thing on Wikipedia. I can also see where a Christian [GASP] organization should NEVER be allowed to do such a heinous thing. As THE 'encyclopedia' of the world, I would think [as a simple web developer] that updating incorrect information was important. But alas, the COI problem... If people inside an organization cannot make simple edits where information is incorrect [who better, to know when info is incorrect?], then Wikipedia is greatly flawed, and therefore I'm not even remotely interested in playing this game any further.

Please stop the ride [let me off] and delete my account.

Have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickbatesatcrista (talk • contribs) 18:49, 10 July 2012‎


 * If you read Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest you will see that making "simple edits where information is incorrect" need not be a problem, but your addition that I commented on was not that, it was adding a promotionally-worded article about one of your employers.


 * Accounts are not deleted: if you want to leave, you can simply stop using it and walk away. If you want to rename it, go to WP:Change username, read down to the bottom of that page, click on "Simple" and follow the instructions there. JohnCD (talk) 21:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)