User talk:Rickymac267/archive

Hi, Ricky. Please take care to maintain a neutral point of view when editing the Abundant Life Church article. Phrases such as "a highly rated leadership academy" are point-of-view, and do not belong in an encyclopaedic article. Cheers! David L Rattigan 09:44, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Or if included such phrases need to properly supported by independent references and citations. :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  15:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: POV
Hi, Ricky. Message you left on my talk page was as follows:
 * Thanks for your message. The thing is, though, I'm a member of ALC and know several people who are currently sudying on the academy and more who've graduated in years gone by. Whenever I talk to them about it, I get nothing but 100% positive feedback on it. Also, there are students on the academy from overseas, which is a good sign when people are prepared to travel thousands of miles to attend. That's why I put "highly rated" on there.


 * But anyway, you know Wikipedia better than I do...

It took me a while to get to grips with the whole POV thing myself when I first started on Wikipedia. Thing is, keeping a neutral POV doesn't come down to whether *you* know it's true. I might know that John Cleese has an aunt called Dolly 'cause he told me once on the phone (he didn't really), but unless I can cite a verifiable source to back me up, it's just my opinion.

As regards the Abundant Life Church article, "highly rated" is just too general and POV. If you had a source (say, a magazine article), an NPOV statement would be something like, "Renewal magazine named it one of the top three Christian leadership academies in Europe", and then a source in a footnote (that was made up, by the way, so don't add that). David L Rattigan 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)