User talk:Rideoffame

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Speedy deletion of "Gray Line New York"
A page you created, Gray Line New York, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is a blatant copyright infringement.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thank you. Mdann52 (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Mdann52. Can you please tell me what specifically is wrong with the page, because I was under the impression that I had followed all of the guidelines? Also, if this makes a difference, I am a representative of the company Gray Line New York, creating this page on behalf of the company, so all content on this page has been approved by Gray Line New York. Are there any other companies or organizations which this article infringes on their copyrights? Proof that Gray Line New York has approved this content. Thank you -Rideoffame (talk) 16:21, 26 September 2012 (UTC) (edit: linking)

advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article because it was wholly promotional. A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. The article was full of praise of both the firm, and of NYC, and neither is appropriate in an encyclopedia. You must not copy from a web site, even your own --   this is a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is  no purpose in giving permission; it is necessary to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients or tourists --that sort of content is considered promotional. In particular, a list of all your stops is inappropriate content. A list of all the people honored with a name on your buses is promotional name-dropping and serves only to attract attention. A list of the firm's very minor charitable contributions is just corporate good will, and not significant content for an encyclopedia.What would be suitable content is a history of the company, or facts about its ownership and  finances.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the general public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive. An encyclopedia article is written impersonally--content saying what "you" will see is advertisement.

Additionally, although I am pretty sure as a New Yorker myself that the company is notable, a Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. there were no such references--the only ones were either from the company website or incidental mentions. There should be no difficulty finding such references, from well known guidebooks, and works about New York tourism. Of course, this is  more effort than writing an advertisement.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.

However, since the name you have used  refers to the subject of the article, and in fact is one of their advertising slogans, you must choose another username. As explained in WP:USER, only individuals may edit. When you have a username that is or includes the name of your organization, you imply that you are editing officially, and have a superior right to edit the page. But that is not the way WP works--all editors are considered equal--and your contributions like those of any editor must be justified by sources. I'm sure you do not intend to give such impression, but that's why we have the rule. And we also have a rule against promotional usernames. Therefore, please choose another name. On that user   page,  you should disclose your conflict of interest.  DGG ( talk ) 17:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)