User talk:RikSietzema

Hello Vanjagenije, Thank you for your quick reply! I can understand your concerns about my article. I want to make clear that I don't want to use Wikipedia as a free advertisement website or for self-promotion. There are lots of jugglers, magicians and other artists that have an information-page on Wikipedia. (For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Farla or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Duinker ). In my article (which I wrote myself) I only wrote facts and I did my best to write it in Wikipedia-style. I would really appreciate it, if you could have a look at my article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rik_Sietzema) and maybe say what I could do better so the article could be online at Wikipedia. Thank you very much in advance! RikSietzema (talk) 16:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, other jugglers also have Wikipedia articles, but none of them wrote the article himself. In Wikipedia, that is called a WP:Conflict of interest. One of the Wikipedia's main principles is WP:Neutrality. And, it is almost impossible to be neutral when writing about yourself. You should read carefully this guide in order to understand how to act in the Conflict of interest situation: WP:PLAINANDSIMPLECOI. You have to understand that one of the most important principle of Wikipedia is WP:Notability. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it may only have articles about notable subjects. And, Wikipedia's definition of "notability" is different from the everyday definition of notability. In Wikipedia, notability of the subject is proved by citing numerous reliable, independent sources that significantly discuss the subject (see: WP:42). That means that, in order to prove the notability of the subject, you have to cite books, newspapers, independent magazines, news portals, etc. which discuss the subject significantly (not just mention it). Now, I understand that you think that you are notable. But, you did not cite any reliable independent source to prove the notability. In the article, you gave links to your personal web site and other web sites that are connect to you (not independent). Wikipedia needs several reliable, independent sources with significant coverage of the subject (in this case: yourself). Vanjagenije (talk) 18:24, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Vanjagenije, thanks for your great reply! If I change the article (other links) and add more citations from reliable significant news portals, other websites and newspapers, would you then consider to add this article to Wikipedia? About the 'Neutrality', that's a good point.. what can I do to change that? Ask an independent person to write something about me, or would you or another Wikipedean be so kind to check the information what I've written at the moment and then tell what kind of information would be self-promotion in your opinion? As I said, I did my best to only write facts (which I can prove by adding citations to the article).
 * Thanks again for your time and I hope to solve this problem and make a notable article! RikSietzema (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your time and I hope to solve this problem and make a notable article! RikSietzema (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * You article is in Wikipedia and I decided not to nominate it for deletion (for now) because it seams not to be blatantly promotional. Since you are acting honestly, the best way would be for you to try to add reliable independent sources to the article, and especially to add inline citations (those are important). When you do that, you may ask other editors to review the article and give their opinion. You can use the WP:Teahouse forum to gather opinion from other editors. By the way, you should type just, not    . But, you don't have to type it at all, since I have your talk page in my wp:watchlist. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:57, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Jimfbleak nominated the article for deletion under the WP:CSD A7 criteria. I'll try to contest the deletion, but we'll see what'll happen. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for your reply. I'll edit the article with inline citations and extra independent sources. When I finished that, I'll go to your link (Teahouse Forum) to ask other editors and also give you an update. Thanks also for contesting the deletion! RikSietzema (talk) 19:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Small update, I added several inline citations and independent sources. Besides that, I also changed most of the external links. I would love to hear feedback, of course I will also ask people from the forum. RikSietzema (talk) 22:23, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello, RikSietzema, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you created was Rik Sietzema, which appears to be an article about yourself. This is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. Your user page, however, is a great place to write about yourself, making sure to stay within user page guidelines. Just click your user name at the top of the screen when you are logged in, and edit it normally.

The page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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